Who Else Thinks the Fix is in For UCLA?
College Basketball, Shady McShady March 25th. 2008, 12:12pm
Someone posted this in the comments section Saturday night; apparently, it first popped up here. No need to inspect the larger version – Aggies’ point guard Donald Sloan not only got fouled in the closing seconds of their second-round game against UCLA – he as mauled by Josh Shipp across the wrist and by Darren Collison on the elbow. By our count – and Pac-10 peeps, feel free to correct us – this is the third time the Bruins have been bailed out by a late call this season. The other two are this non-foul against Stanford, which led to a UCLA win, and this shouldn’t-have-counted Josh Shipp shot over the backboard, which helped defeat Arizona State. Cal.
Something is definitely up, we’re just not sure what it is. Is this the 100th year of UCLA basketball? Is the NCAA trying to get a final one for ailing John Wooden? Or is karma at play here, for the Bruins having lost the last two years in the Final Four to the eventual champion Florida Gators?
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March 25th, 2008 at 12:14 PM
A&M should have gone for the 3 anyway.
March 25th, 2008 at 12:16 PM
They’ll get theirs in the championship against Kansas.
March 25th, 2008 at 12:16 PM
Mel Gibson is in.
March 25th, 2008 at 12:16 PM
It was Cal that Shipp’s over the backboard hoop beat.
I would chalk this up to luck. How many times at the end of games do you see refs put the whistle in their pocket? Every rule has an exception (the Collison play) but this just looks like a coincedence.
March 25th, 2008 at 12:17 PM
It would be horrible if the Refs were fixing it for UCLA.
/Looks at bracket
Thank you Refs keep up the great work.
March 25th, 2008 at 12:17 PM
Yeah the fix was in, don’t understand all the media love for UCLA, they have come very close over and over again to losing, loved Hubert Davis picking Western Kentucky to beat them.
My dream matchup, UNC/Washington State, time to see if TBL was right.
March 25th, 2008 at 12:17 PM
this picture serves as good evidence, but the video shows him thrown to the floor after this. this was just a terrible call. Which conference were these ref’s from? Is that how its done in the NCAAs?
March 25th, 2008 at 12:17 PM
Why would the fix be in for such a boring team? I see the horrid calls, but why this team?
March 25th, 2008 at 12:19 PM
i would put this more to the decline of refs in all sports than a fix…referring has been horrid in almost every sport but you cant criticize them without opening up the checkbook
March 25th, 2008 at 12:19 PM
I always get Kevin Love and Stephen Curry confused so I don’t know who to root for.
March 25th, 2008 at 12:21 PM
I’m pretty sure it’s not the 100th anniversary of UCLA basketball. The yellow C on the jersey is to commemorate UCLA’s 100th NCAA championship schoolwide.
March 25th, 2008 at 12:22 PM
I would be inclined to file this under shitty officiating that just happened to be in some high-profile UCLA games. There’s plenty of other shitty officiating. Every year, there’s some bad call/no-call at the end of college basketball games. I believe it to be coincidental, nothing more.
March 25th, 2008 at 12:37 PM
Don’t forget about the non-call in the Cal game when Anderson got mugged in the corner, eventually leading to the Shipp backboard shot.
However, I can see no way is there a fix going on. The refs always lean towards the better team and some refs just flat out suck. I also agree with the point that they tend to swallow the whistles in end game situations.
My roommate doesn’t watch a lot of college hoops but had heard of Kevin Love. We were watching the tournament and he bursts out “Wait a second, Kevin Love is white???”.
March 25th, 2008 at 12:42 PM
Lets go Western Kentucky
i see upset written all over this game
March 25th, 2008 at 12:42 PM
that photo makes me physically ill. And Howland after the game talked about how they got “a clean block” to win the game.
i still would have loved to have seen carter or kirk let it fly from 3 for the win.
March 25th, 2008 at 12:45 PM
This old X-Files fan is reminded of a saying…
Just sayin’.
March 25th, 2008 at 12:46 PM
They will lose by 20.
March 25th, 2008 at 12:47 PM
Western Kentucky has the guards to hang with UCLA, but it doesn’t play any defense, but its chances are about as good as He Hate Me starting at RB in the Super Bowl.
March 25th, 2008 at 12:48 PM
@TBl- if the three ball is going in for them, its over for UCLA
March 25th, 2008 at 12:49 PM
Other bogus call in the game included when Joe Jones was fouled going for a loose ball, and the refs decided that it was an offensive foul, keeping Joe from going to the line.
aaaaahhhh, i shouldn’t be thinking of this, it just makes me pissed.
March 25th, 2008 at 12:56 PM
At least He Hate Me played in a Super Bowl, I don’t think W. Ky. will even get that close.
I think OwlX and I are the only hoops officials on this site. I’d be interested to hear his opinion, but I think this tournament has been very well officiated. At full speed watching the UCLA/A&M game I didn’t think anything was missed, but obviously the slo-mo/photos prove otherwise. I think, of the 3 UCLA controversial calls in question, this one is the easiest to forgive.
March 25th, 2008 at 12:57 PM
Hey, this is completely off topic, but is wrong to really screw over your best friend in a fantasy baseball trade? i don’t know if i’ve ever been so morally torn.
March 25th, 2008 at 12:58 PM
Aggie – that’s the correct call. Team control (and hence offensive fouls) continues throughout loose balls until the other team takes control. That’s why the shot clock, 10-second count, etc. do not stop/reset.
March 25th, 2008 at 12:58 PM
All’s fair in love and fantasy baseball.
March 25th, 2008 at 12:59 PM
I also think TA&M going 8:50 w/o a basket in the second half had a lot to do with them losing too. Not just the no-call at the end.
Benji – Is it a close friend? Does he know he is being screwed? Im a believer you make the trade you can make, no vetos (unless obvious tampering), and its the trade partners responsibility to do the homework on his end.
March 25th, 2008 at 1:01 PM
I believe that obviously providing false information, get away with as much as you can in a trade.
March 25th, 2008 at 1:02 PM
what was that league called where “he hate me” started out at?
it wasnt arena league
March 25th, 2008 at 1:02 PM
It is a very close friend. and we have a bachelor party this weekend, so he would hear shit from all the guys meeting up all weekend. and it took some convincing on my part. i didn’t lie about stats, but i may have imbellished some predictions.
March 25th, 2008 at 1:04 PM
Your covered Benji, its his responsibility to research the trade and make his own determination.
BTW, whats the deal?
March 25th, 2008 at 1:04 PM
The XFL was the league Irish
March 25th, 2008 at 1:06 PM
i would get Hanley Ramirez, and Shane Victorino (he will get cut as my OF is stacked) and he gets Alfonso Soriano and Justin Upton.
March 25th, 2008 at 1:08 PM
i told him Soriano is awesome and brought up the 40/40 year. and i told him how stacked the cubs line up is so this would boost his stats. all true stuff, but not as much as i told him. and Hanley Ramirez would easily make my team the favorite.
March 25th, 2008 at 1:09 PM
Looks fine to me (Now I like your side better) but nothing that screams unfair. Plus, if he has a decent SS behind Hanley, he could be really improving his OF.
March 25th, 2008 at 1:12 PM
Thanks SS, that will help me sleep at night.
March 25th, 2008 at 1:23 PM
Do I trade Brian Roberts for Vernon Wells?
March 25th, 2008 at 1:32 PM
Initially I would say yes, but it depends on what your other options are at those positions. Roberts doesn’t give you much besides SB and a decent average, Wells should have a good year all around.
March 25th, 2008 at 1:54 PM
I was in Vegas for the games and the consensus was that the games were not officiated that well. Examples.
Marquette and Kentucky were both in the double bonus with 6 minutes to go in the 1st half. No flow to the game.
Curtis Shaw t’ing people left and right including throwing out a coach in the 1st half
Technical on Jay Wright with 3 minutes left in a 4 point game.
The UCLA game ending
Very iffy foul calls down the stretch of San Diego/Uconn including the one that fouled out Gyno Pomare of SD
Some of these calls were horrendous and some not, but in a lot of the tight games the officials weren’t very good. I hate when officials act like they are bigger than the game. The Trent Johnson ejection and the Jay Wright T with 3 minutes left are just egregious examples of officials trying to make their mark.
March 25th, 2008 at 1:55 PM
Diesel, Assdribble Cabrera is my backup second baseman.
March 25th, 2008 at 2:06 PM
Shipp definitely fouled but Collison isn’t actually touching Sloan’s elbow there, it’s just looks that way from the angle (check the picture on the A&M site from another angle).
The problem is that there are iffy calls throughout the game, unfortunately this one came right at the end. People always complain about something when their teams lose — look at the ending of two separate Villanova games this year.
March 25th, 2008 at 2:07 PM
Who are your other OF?
March 25th, 2008 at 2:14 PM
Carlos Beltran, Delmon Young, Shane Victorino
March 25th, 2008 at 2:17 PM
I wouldn’t do it unless you can find a better replacement for Roberts. Your OF is already pretty good and Cabrera is a big downgrade from Roberts.
March 25th, 2008 at 2:25 PM
Appreciate the advice Diesel
March 25th, 2008 at 2:30 PM
Anytime, my big keeper league draft is tomorrow night so it’s good to keep my instincts sharp haha
March 25th, 2008 at 3:41 PM
Too say that the ejecting of Trent Johnson was egregious is wrong. He deserved a T for arguing continuously about the call. He then got his 2nd T for coming 20 feet on to the floor while there was not a time out(this is a “T” 100 times out of 100). Why do some fans think coaches should get a pass in the tourney?
Officials do let coaches slide some during tournaments, there was no question with Johnson. And Wright wanted that “T” to make his point, it worked out well for him.
Officiating is so subjective for fans, it will never be perfect to anyone. Officials do make mistakes. We live with mistakes. You can’t play basketball(or any sport) without officials and they will always be human.(at least while we’re on this earth). Score points, play defense, and win your games so they aren’t close, and you’re fans won’t have to blame it on the refs.–oh wait, they always will. And thats why out of the 400 or so regular commenters on TBL, only two of us are officials. Because we choose to have a job where we are “wrong” in the eyes of half of the fans on every call.
March 25th, 2008 at 3:44 PM
Too=To
March 25th, 2008 at 3:56 PM
The UCLA fans’ defense of all three “fortunate” calls
March 25th, 2008 at 3:58 PM
TBL – you may want to set up a daily post for fantasy stuff the way you do for hockey and basketball because it seems to leak in and hijack threads. I really hate that fantasy shit.
March 25th, 2008 at 6:11 PM
Sorry to anger you Jax, when will you be sending me your Guide to posting on TBL?