Ballin’: Bucks Beat Buzzer, Arenas and Wizards
NBA April 3rd. 2008, 10:57am
Milwaukee 110, Washington 109: Excruciating loss for the Wizards, as Milwaukee’s Ramon Sessions drilled a long jumper at the buzzer, spoiling the long-awaited return of Gilbert Arenas, who played for the first time since November. If you look at the final play, Arenas briefly left Sessions to double Andrew Bogut, who received the inbounds pass, but the big Aussie made a perfect one-touch pass to Sessions, who sank the jumper and spirits of the Wiz. Doubly difficult to swallow – Deshawn Stevenson and Antwan Jamison both left the game after getting injured with less than 10 seconds left.
Dallas 111, Golden State 86: Doesn’t look like the Rockets or Mavericks will be missing the postseason – but rather the Warriors are in deep do-do. Dirk returned early from his knee injury, and scored 18 points in 26 minutes as the Mavs beat a team with a winning record for the first time since Jason Kidd arrived in Dallas. Al Harrington and Stephen Jackson shot a combined 2-for-20 as Golden State fell a game back of Denver for the 8th seed in the West.
Atlanta 127, Toronto 120, OT: The Hawks virtually locked up the 8th playoff spot with their fifth straight win after a spectacular (lucky?) home win over the Raptors. Trailing by 17 late in the third, the Hawks toughened up on D and Mike Bibby’s three with less than a second left forced OT. (But the Raptors may protest after this TJ Ford basket was disallowed.) The loss dropped the Raptors into a fifth-place tie with Philly and Washington for the fifth seed in the East. The “winner” of that trio faces Cleveland; the “loser” plays Detroit, and whomever finishes in the middle opens the postseason in Orlando.
Cleveland 118, Charlotte 114: Do you ever wonder what became of Emeka Okafor? The former Connecticut center, so dominant in college, is on the verge of finishing his fourth straight season averaging a double-double … but he’s doing it so quietly, and Charlotte’s so irrelevant, that it’s like the guy doesn’t exist. If Bill Simmons can lobby to be GM of the Bucks, we may start a campaign to run the Bobcats. We’d get these guys into the playoffs next year, for sure.
Los Angeles Lakers 104, Portland 91: Kobe’s 36 led six players in double figures as the Lakers welcomed Pau Gasol back to the lineup with a relatively easy triumph over the Brandon Roy-less Blazers.
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April 3rd, 2008 at 10:59 AM
The Bucks players are celebrating as if they just won a playoff game.
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:59 AM
Great to see Gilbert back but he couldn’t stop the Wizards from losing to bad teams.
At least in the playoffs whoever the Wizards play will be a good team, just want our big 3 to be healthy at the same time.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:00 AM
At least Bogut found someone to high five this time.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:00 AM
Hawks won that game because NBA officials want to make sure the Suns don’t get a lottery pick.
/conspiracy theorist
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:00 AM
It kills me that the Hawks finally learned how to win. They go a whole season mired in mediocrity, a lottery pick waiting to be given to PHX, but no. Suddenly, their ineptitude is only mild as opposed to insurmounting.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:01 AM
YYSA, you beat me to my rant. And yours was better.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:01 AM
Welcome back Dirk. Mavs all the way.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:03 AM
@Hef – Yea I hear ya. We really got shafted in last years lottery.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:03 AM
Nick P, you’re not going to like this, but LBJ apologist Chris Broussard said on Cowherd today he takes Kobe over CP3 for MVP because because they have similar supporting casts and the Lakers have had way more injuries.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:06 AM
I would like to see Kobe get the MVP. There is just something funny about NBA MVP’s getting knocked out in the first round.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:06 AM
it was briefly mentioned yesterday, but how in the hell did dirk make it back from that injury so quickly?
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:07 AM
The Hornets have an equally likely chance of getting knocked out of the first round, as does every team in the Western Conference.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:07 AM
I was going campaign to be GM of the New York/New Jersey Red Bulls, but I’m currently making $11/hour and didn’t want to take such a significant pay cut.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:08 AM
True but I will take the Lakers as a first round exit to Phoenix. That seems to be the norm.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:08 AM
Neo, steroids, lots of steroids, saurkraut, and bratwurst
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:08 AM
Neo, that’s exactly the same injury that Boobie Gibson had, and Boobie’s been out for months.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:08 AM
YYSA, that would have been the norm if the Lakers were throwing out a starting lineup that includes Smush and Kwame.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:10 AM
how serious are these injuries to Jamison and my man DeShaun?
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:10 AM
@ Cursed- dont get me wrong the Lakers are alot better then the last couple of years but Ill still take Phx in 7. Kobe will shoot 3 shots in the second half of game 7. Cause thats what MVP’s do.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:10 AM
@YYSA, Hef–sorry, guys. I know it’s not fair. I mean, the Hawks have been so good for so long, and drafted so well–they’ve been the darlings of the NBA for the last few years. While the Suns have really stunk up the joint and have lived in the basement of the Western Conference.
/Tongue almost digging hole in cheek
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:12 AM
@Atl – I hear ya. But you got to admit that Joe Johnson trade is looking like a steal for you guys now.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:13 AM
I actually think the suns might overtake houston for the 5th seed putting them up against utah in the first round.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:14 AM
okafor isnt a bad player, he’s just not flashy in the least. he’s a helluva defender tho, when he gets himself in good position.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:15 AM
@YYSA–agreed…that’s why I ALWAYS say people judge trades wayyyyyy too early. The Hawks were called fools for so long for that trade, and now it looks completely different. It’s so ridiculous how fans judge things so quickly these days.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:15 AM
Dallas next two games are LAL and PHX. They are either going to bury themselves in the 6,7,8 seeds or drag themselves back up to the middle tier. Should be interesting
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:15 AM
@jb49ers, why would that be surprising? We’ve been the five seed for the last week until Tuesday’s loss to the Nuggets.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:16 AM
You’re not the only one wondering Irish, I am waiting with baited breath.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:16 AM
YYSA, i don’t see how the Lakers can face the Suns in the Playoffs. It seems more likely that the team that don’t win the Pacific will play the Jazz and the other will play the 6th (probably the Rockets).
By the way, you seem to forgot what Kobe did in Game 4 of the same series…or that if it wasn’t for a Tim Thomas miracle the multi-talented Suns would have lost to a team with the lousy Kobe, Odom, Kwame Brown, Smush Parker and Luke Walton. It takes 7 wins to beat that team? Pffff
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:17 AM
damn germans and their uber-steroids…
all i could find on stevenson was that he had a sprained right ankle. i’m not sure of the severity.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:18 AM
I’m sure that if YYSA is a Suns fan, he vividly remembers Tim Thomas’ shot.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:18 AM
@Chaos – Did Amare play that series?
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:19 AM
The Tim Thomas shot, the matrix rebound back to Nash for 3, the Raja Bell Corner three, The Raja Bell Clothesline. Yes I remember that series
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:19 AM
Neo, i’m shocked that nobody in the media mentioned that a high ankle sprain is a tricky injury and if a player returns to soon, in most cases that makes the injury worse.
Maybe the Mavs lied about the injury and it’s not a high ankle sprain,…
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:19 AM
thanks Neo. I just like DeShaun because of the statement he made about Lebron being overrated
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:20 AM
just pointing out that the lakers being a 3 seed right now would not play the suns in the 1st round
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:22 AM
YYSA, so even without Amare, the Suns had the MVP, Shawn Marion, Raja Bell, Leandrinho Barbosa, Boris Diaw (in his great year) and Tim Thomas (in his contract year) and still they had to play 7 games against the Smush-Kwame potent combo? Funny… the MVP almost lost against a clear inferior team, because that’s what MVP’s do…
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:23 AM
keyword-almost
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:24 AM
Did Broussard really say that? The Lakers and Hornets have equal supporting casts?
I guess it’s tough to matchup starts since Gasol was a late add and Bynum has been hurt, but the Lakers bench DESTROYS the Hornets bench. Not even in the same universe.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:24 AM
And even if CP3 wins the MVP (like he should) and his team loses in the 1st round, that doesn’t mean he didn’t deserved to win. The MVP is relative to the Regular-Season, so i don’t see what’s the problem with that. The MVP is not the Best Player in the NBA, is usually the player who had the most impact in one of the best teams recordwise, unless the player is Tim Duncan….
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:25 AM
Yea the Suns probably wont play the Lakers in the first round but I do hope they play eachother this postseason. Shaq/Kobe would be too good to miss out on.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:26 AM
When healthy the lakers have a good bench I wouldn’t call them great.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:27 AM
MVP’s make free throws at the end of games when they count. CP missed two free throws against Orlando the other night. He spent most of the game complaining to the refs like a little baby.
MVP’s dont have to go to the refs to get calls
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:27 AM
@CH4OS, did you not remember that bullshit game 4 where the refs gift wrapped the game for the Lakers? WHen steve nash was raped at midcourt? No?
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:28 AM
Id say the Lakers have the best/deepest bench in the West
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:28 AM
agreed. the spurs are nothing without duncan, and theyve been arguably the most successful team since the Shaq-Kobe Lakers. but you cant give it to him every year.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:29 AM
using your argument irish there are NO players deserving of the MVP award.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:29 AM
@Irish – Oh yes we have never seen Kobe go to the ref and complain
/leads leauge in technicals
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:30 AM
@jb- i dont think CP will win the MVP. i was using that argument against CP3.
i hate to say it, but Dwight wont win it. KG will
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:30 AM
I hate when people bring up 3 year old games by arguing “What if this happened…what if that guy were playing…” The Suns won. The Lakers lost. Let it go!!
/end short rant
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:34 AM
goodpoint atl neither team lakers or suns won the ship that year so both were losers
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:34 AM
i’m a celtics fan and i don’t even think KG will win it. my bet is on CP.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:35 AM
The Lakers bench is alright, they’re not world beaters. Any team would want to have Farmar, great hustler… Turiaf all depends on who he’s guarding, very undersized. Sasha and Vlad Rad are only useful if they’re hitting, very one-dimensional (Simmons thinks Sasha is a good defender, I think he gets killed by everyone).. What’s so special about these guys. Are they that much better or worse than most other benches?
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:36 AM
@neo- even with all the love that Boston gets in the media and what he did for the Boston franchise this year
god i have to stop..im starting to sound like dorncoch
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:36 AM
Gasol > Bynum
Bynum = West
Odom > Peja
Kobe > Mo Pete
Fisher < CP3
Granted, the Lakers haven’t had that lineup all season, but it’s not even close, folks.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:37 AM
god damnit, when are people gonna start giving Z-Bo some MVP love? ive been callin for it all god-damned year.
god damnit.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:37 AM
Bynum is equal to David West… wow put down the Raspberry Milanos
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:38 AM
Agreed with Irish, Bynum isn’t as good as David West.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:39 AM
The Lakers bench is alright, they’re not world beaters. Any team would want to have Farmar, great hustler… Turiaf all depends on who he’s guarding, very undersized. Sasha and Vlad Rad are only useful if they’re hitting, very one-dimensional (Simmons thinks Sasha is a good defender, I think he gets killed by everyone).. What’s so special about these guys. Are they that much better or worse than most other benches?
Is there a better bench in the league? When everyone’s fully healthy, the only others that come to mind right now … Utah, Cleveland, Detroit, Boston …
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:39 AM
TBL, that’s the worst way to try to equate lineups. Broussard said Gasol and West are basically a wash, and that Bynum and Chandler are a wash.
But either way, they’ve all been injured, and that matters when comparing the teams.. doesnt it?
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:40 AM
TBL…it’d probably be more accurate if you matched bynum and chandler (where chandler gets the nod) and gasol and west (theyre relatively equal).
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:41 AM
Sasha is a pretty decent defender for a guy named “Sasha” and as whole I think the bench is just average. Luke Walton isn’t consistent, Ariza and Newble are good defenders.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:41 AM
TBL, do i still get my post if the Lakers go to the Finals? Remember i called that out one day at the begginning of the season and you said yeah right. But you added that you would give me a post if they do
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:48 AM
I’m not saying the Lakers bench is bad, but like any bench, if the outside shooters are making their shots, they can hold you over… if they’re not, they’re worthless.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:48 AM
I think the Lakers bench is good because they may not have any abosolute studs but they are solid like 10-11 deep
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:49 AM
I would be very interested in an Irish post. The title will be “Is Dwight Howard 10x or 100x better than Wilt the Stilt? Discuss.”
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:50 AM
TBL, that’s the worst way to try to equate lineups. Broussard said Gasol and West are basically a wash, and that Bynum and Chandler are a wash.
Pau Gasol and David West are a wash? On what planet?
Gasol is a stud – 8 straight seasons of averaging over 17 ppg. All-Star status means nothing. West is having a real nice season, and he is certainly becoming a nice player, but please remember that Gasol took the Grizz to the playoffs. Let’s see West try that.
Bynum, while on the rise, is still very, very young. Chandler might as well be a vet. I give him the edge on the glass and perhaps on defense … but yes, it’s close. Season series 2-1 NO, with another game next week.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:50 AM
Remember the days when LeBron used to get mentioned for MVP’s? Which is why I’ll never understand the willingness to guarantee MVP’s two weeks after the all-star break.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:52 AM
TBL, Gasol and West are a wash this season What do past seasons have to do with rating this year’s team
I’ve never seen TBL so deadset on any one topic. Is that because you don’t want Kobe winning? You haven’t been nearly as excited about Kobe all year as you’ve been other guys…
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:55 AM
Shaq>Bynum
Amare>Gasol
Hill<Odom
BellFisher
That was fun but seriously. It tells nothing
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:55 AM
TBL loves him some LeBron, he has said as much.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:56 AM
Shaq>Bynum
Amare>Gasol
Hill<Odom
BellFisher
*fixed
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:56 AM
Lord, grant me the same wisdom in discussing NBA MVPs the you granted to cursedcleveland. Help me to learn when to discuss topics in the same way that you helped him learn. His wisdom is your wisdom.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:56 AM
what the hell. It must just get messed up in html or something
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:58 AM
Deep down I think KG will win it. And deservedly so. Their domination of the West seals it.
April 3rd, 2008 at 12:01 PM
Why is no one talking KG for MVP? The Celtics are what, 25-5 against the West? Against the West! He has (quietly) brought that team from the basement to a serious title contender with leadership that demands responsibility. He’s even gotten Paul Pierce to play defense! Those two terms were never used in the same sentence before this year. You guys talk up Kobe, LBJ, and CP3, but KG is gonna get a lot of votes. I think he may finish #2 to either CP3 or Kobe when it’s all said and done.
April 3rd, 2008 at 12:02 PM
Damn you YYSA, you just beat me to it. Damn slow keyboard.
April 3rd, 2008 at 12:04 PM
paul pierce has been a more dominant player this year
April 3rd, 2008 at 12:06 PM
KG missed 9 straight games and the Celtics still went 7-2, losing those two games by a total of four points. That doesn’t scream “most valuable” to me.
April 3rd, 2008 at 12:07 PM
I think KG absolutely deserves MVP run.. I don’t know why people continue to doubt the Celtics. They are good. They’ve got everything a championship teams needs.. People here in Cleveland don’t seem to be that worried about them – which is delusional. All I hear on the radio is “Well they can’t stop LeBron.” Well the Cavaliers can’t stop lots of guys on the Celtics..
April 3rd, 2008 at 12:08 PM
@cursed: Keep repeating what Broussard says. Really ups your credibility. I’m glad he thinks Kobe is more deserving. That only reinforces my belief Kobe as MVP would be a travesty.
April 3rd, 2008 at 12:10 PM
YYSA and Stalks – YES!! People say KG doesn’t deserve it because Pierce is having such a good year. But KG is the reason Pierce is having a good year. He used to be selfish, moody, and uninspired. Now KG has him, and guys like Powe, Big Baby, and Perkins, all playing great. KG is right up there w/ Kobe, CP, and Birdman Anderson.
April 3rd, 2008 at 12:10 PM
i agree cursed, i think the celtics will make it to the finals. they have a solid bench and good role players to go along with pierce, allen, and garnett.
April 3rd, 2008 at 12:11 PM
Clown, I don’t like the whole “how did they play with injuries” argument. That’s why people were saying LeBron should be MVP because the team went 0-6 w/o him. But there’s so much more that goes into that. The Cavaliers for instance can’t imagine a gameplan devoid of LeBron while using their LeBron-centric offense. The Celtics run a much better team approach, so of course they won’t be effected as much.
It seems like there’s a bias against good players on good teams when people want to argue this – if that’s the case, Jordan should have zero MVP’s (they won 55 games w/o him one year)
April 3rd, 2008 at 12:12 PM
Nick P, i cited Broussar because he’s a self proclaimed Kobe hater…. So for him to say it, suprised me.
April 3rd, 2008 at 12:14 PM
@cursed: There’s one (and only) thing that goes into that. The Cavs ex-Lebron are top 3 lottery bound. Your argument might hold wait for 1 quarter or possession, but not 7. They got blown out by dogshit teams; couldn’t beat Seattle or Charlotte even.
April 3rd, 2008 at 12:16 PM
And Kobe winning the MVP would be a “travesty?” I’m sorry Nick P, your MVP credentials have just been revoked. That’s a Skip Bayless line there… Let’s look into your line of thinking…
Ok, so Kobe is easily one of the top players in the game, he’s guided a team with as many injuries as anyone else to one of the best records in a historically tough western conference, his all-around game is second to none and he’s earning praise from same assemblage of writers that have hated him from years.. You know what, I’m gonna say that winning the MVP would be a travesty. That’ll get people talking
April 3rd, 2008 at 12:18 PM
“The Celtics run a much better team approach.”
Read: Celtics have players who don’t range from historically terrible to mediocre/slightly above average.
April 3rd, 2008 at 12:18 PM
No Nick P, it does hold all sorts of water. The Cavaliers have a LeBron-centric offense. I haven’t seen a team run such an offense in my 2+ years of watching basketball. Of course they’re going to struggle without him, (Heck, they struggle with him..5-5 in the last 10). It’s a ridiculous offense, and I’m not sure they can run a different offense, it’s what LeBron wants and it’s what he’s used to.
April 3rd, 2008 at 12:20 PM
The Cavaliers have way more talent than you’re giving them credit for. (actually, Four all-stars are on the team right now). Guys don’t like to sit in the corner and wait for LeBron to find them at the end of a shot clock… it’s no fluke that guys that play with LeBron actually get worse. Sure, they get open shots, but they rarely get to touch the ball.
April 3rd, 2008 at 12:20 PM
so then you missed kobe, post-shaq. triangle offense my ass.
April 3rd, 2008 at 12:21 PM
No matter who wins the MVP, at least we can all agree that no one will watch when it’s Spurs and Pistons in the Finals.
April 3rd, 2008 at 12:24 PM
I don’t even think I could watch Spurs/Celtics. If it is Spurs versus one of the big two out east then your scores will be. 80-72 76-74 72-68 90-88 68-66 84-82 85-83. There will be more points scored in the Tourney championship game
April 3rd, 2008 at 12:25 PM
Maybe our definition of travesty is different, but you have 2 guys with a much bigger impact on excellent teams (the generic definition of MVP), Paul and KG, with better supporting stats. Not to mention by any measure of value other than better teammates, Lebron is much more deserving. So yeah travesty feels right.
Of course a bunch of writers, whose opinions I don’t respect anyway, suddenly toeing the company line might sway me. Oops, nm, not a sheep.
April 3rd, 2008 at 12:25 PM
Spurs vs Pistons in the nba finals that would be a travesty.
April 3rd, 2008 at 12:29 PM
In my perfect NBA the Suns/celtics finals would be ideal. 32 years later Phx gets revenge with #32 on their side.
April 3rd, 2008 at 12:30 PM
How can you say CP3 is having a “much bigger impact” than Kobe? Defend that statement. Defend it now! (waiting for Hollinger stats, and other calculus-based esoteric-in nature statistics that are a blanket substitute for watching the games).
April 3rd, 2008 at 12:30 PM
I’m really hoping that the Jazz and Spurs don’t make it out of the West.
Yes I know the Jazz have Deron, I still find them boring as hell.
April 3rd, 2008 at 12:33 PM
mvp arguments are crazy there is no definitive way stats are other to prove one guy is more valuable Lakers have to have Kobe to win Hornets are shit without CP3 Celts are avg without KG Cavs are shit without Bron so lets just make them co mvps and call it a day on the mvp argument.
April 3rd, 2008 at 12:35 PM
2 years??? That’s it? How do you…Stammer stammer double take. Where do you…out the window, man. Out the window.
April 3rd, 2008 at 12:35 PM
JB49ers…I agree. I only bring this stuff up because people argue this stuff as if it’s more important than the championship. I would have no problem is CP3/Kobe/KG win the award. They all deserve it.
April 3rd, 2008 at 12:36 PM
HEF, it was a joke..
April 3rd, 2008 at 12:38 PM
I like jokes.
April 3rd, 2008 at 12:39 PM
Gotta go, baseball is starting.
April 3rd, 2008 at 12:40 PM
Hef, then you must hate Dane Cook!
April 3rd, 2008 at 12:58 PM
Everyone hates Dane Cook.
April 3rd, 2008 at 1:38 PM
“How can you say Paul is having a bigge impact?”
Easy. A coach told me.
April 3rd, 2008 at 3:06 PM
Bill Laimbeer is proud of this photograph.