Taking a Peek at the NBA Draft
College Basketball, NBA April 11th. 2008, 4:30pm
A fun Friday exercise, for sure. As of right now, here are the 10 worst teams in the NBA, record-wise, from worst to best: Miami, Seattle, Minnesota, Memphis, New York, Los Angeles Clippers, Milwaukee, Chicago, Charlotte and New Jersey. Let’s assume this holds up, shall we?
And let’s also assume that Michael Beasley and Derrick Rose, neither of which has officially declared for the draft, do so next week. (Joe Alexander, this has mistake written all over it.) Everyone ready?
1. Miami. Beasley or Rose? Do you prefer the backcourt of Rose and Wade, or the frontcourt of Marion and Beasley? The lone argument against Beasley is that Haslem is an adequate PF, and the Heat don’t have an adequate PG. If you want to run, the trio of Rose, Wade and Marion could be exciting. And sell tickets. We think Riley goes with Rose.
2. Seattle. The Sonics have to be praying the Heat go with Beasley, because they’re set at PF with Chris Wilcox and Nick Collison, both who are above-average at their position, and are being paid handsomely. Guess Miami could ask for Wilcox’s expiring contract and the No. 2 pick for the No. 1 and some junk, right? All is not lost – if Miami won’t work, somebody will want to trade up for Beasley (Minnesota to pair him with Jefferson? Chicago, which needs low-post punch?), and then the Sonics can get a pick and hopefully a PG in return (are you really sold on Ridnour?), and then draft a defensive-minded center, like Brook Lopez.
3. Minnesota. Really could use a PF, but also some punch in the backcourt at either guard position (Foye plays both well; neither awesomely). Either Mayo or Bayless would work, but then you’d have two big guards, neither of which is a pure point. Brook Lopez and Jefferson has serious potential inside, though. The move: pray for the No. 2 pick, and if that doesn’t work, settle for Bayless, giving the Wolves a young and exciting (and high-scoring) backcourt.
4. Memphis - Really, really need a force inside (at both ends), and this could be the team that deals with Seattle (Conley? Navarro?) to jump up and grab Beasley. Other than Beasley, there isn’t a polished inside scorer in the draft.
5. New York - A wild card because Donnie Walsh is going to do anything to shake the stench of Isiah away from this franchise. The sad thing is, there are talented players on this team (Crawford, Randolph). Got no idea where they’ll go, but this being NY, they’ll obviously be looking for a splashy get, such as Mayo, even though he makes zero sense.
6. Los Angeles Clippers – Shooting guard, and that’s it. Mayo, Bayless, Gordon and perhaps even Russell Westbrook. Any other considerations would be foolish, but that’s how Donald Sterling operates.
7. Milwaukee – On paper, a good starting lineup. Even if you wanted a more pure point guard than Mo Williams, you couldn’t do it, because he’s got a massive salary. Guess the move here is small forward (Desmond Mason’s got an expiring contract, but Bobby Simmons is making way too much bank for his own good), and they went foreign last year, so maybe they do that again with this Danilo Gallinari kid, who we haven’t seen, except on highlight reels. Problem is, he’s the same type of player as Yi and Charlie V, so you’d have three tweeners at the 3/4. What a mess.
8. Chicago - The three-headed monster at the 4/5 is Drew Gooden, Ty Thomas, and Joakim Noah. None of them can shoot straight. Problem is, most of the bigs in this draft are all inside-only guys, and that’s because they’re too young to have a polished game. Dontae Green from Syracuse is interesting; he’s 6-10 and an inside-out player. Depending on what happens with Ben Gordon, maybe the Bulls get lucky and can grab local product Eric Gordon. But if the Bulls want to shake things up, they could offer an enticing package to get Beasley at No. 2.
9. Charlotte - Somebody to play next to Emeka Okafor. Don’t laugh – Roy Hibbert? This team has scoring in J Rich and Wallace, but if it can get two long, defensive-minded players to clog the middle, look out East! Jordan (Texas A&M) and McGee (Nevada) just seem too young and raw at this point.
10. New Jersey - Should the Nets assume VC or RJ will get hurt, and draft a scoring wing? Or is the move to get another post player, except one who can do more than defend and rebound? Kevin Love is actually somewhat interesting here, and we also like DJ White a lot (then again, we liked Marco Killingsworth back in the day). As for the scoring wing – Brandon Rush, CDR, or the local kid, Earl Clark, would all make fine selections.
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April 11th, 2008 at 4:35 PM
Roy hibbert being a lottery pick is absurd. i thought he was drafted the other day in the WNBA draft
Rose is the #1 pick IF Miami has the first pick
April 11th, 2008 at 4:35 PM
I think you’re right that if Rose goes to Miami #1, Seattle will be looking to deal and there will be plenty or suitors. The Sonics should then either trade for a PG and draft a 2, or vice-versa.
Note to teams in draft: Stay the hell away from DeAndre Jordan.
April 11th, 2008 at 4:36 PM
I think that Miami should threaten to take Rose to get Seattle to swap picks with them, while Seattle throws in one of their 6 picks over the next 3 years.
I think Seattle would do it, and Miami would get Beasley, who I think is the better player anyway.
April 11th, 2008 at 4:36 PM
as a heat fan i hope they go beasley.. i love haslem but he’s overrated.. he got to get open 12 foot jumpers the last 2 years because of shaq.. he’s not very valuable without shaq man.. you already have wade, i go big and go with beasley.. it’s funny all the attention rose is getting (and i understand it, hes really good) but i could make the argument CDR was the best player on that team throughout the entire season, go beasley please..
April 11th, 2008 at 4:37 PM
Agree with irish. No way Hibbert goes that high.
And I see Westbrook as a 1 in the pros–though I still don’t think he’s worth a lottery pick.
April 11th, 2008 at 4:39 PM
If Miami gets the #1 pick, there isn’t going to be a debate: they are going to take Rose. Straight from the closest horse to the horse that matters’ mouth.
April 11th, 2008 at 4:40 PM
westbrook has some great athleticism, but since when does that translate well into being a good PG? rondo is about the only one i can think of. CP3 and deron were both coveted for their basketball acumen, not their athleticism (deron was even considered fat).
id hate to have a lotto pick this year. a lot of mediocre picks. beasley and rose (and maybe mayo, just cuz im a fan and want him to do well) and that’s about it. im still not sold on love or hibbert.
April 11th, 2008 at 4:41 PM
The NBA is becoming a league dependent on PG’s–for the most part. If there’s a great PG out there to be had, you have to take him.
I’m not completely sold on Beasley being a 4 in the pros. He reminds me of Jamison.
April 11th, 2008 at 4:43 PM
NSR…i dont really see jamison’s game. he kinda reminds me of rasheed in elton brand’s body.
April 11th, 2008 at 4:43 PM
Terrible call TBL. With you living in NYC and all, I would at least think you read the papers around here. The Knicks are looking to get away from what they have been known for, aka splashy players. Walsh is very smart and will draft accordingly, I say zero chance they get Mayo.
April 11th, 2008 at 4:43 PM
Jamison can’t rebound like Beasley.
April 11th, 2008 at 4:45 PM
Why would Miami want Rose and Wade on the same team? They both play the same way – they drive hoping to pick up the foul and they both have iffy jumpers. Since they aren’t consistent from the outside, they keep driving until they hurt themselves.
Even if they have Bennett Salvatore calling every one of their games, that’s a combined 60-70 games missed per season right there.
April 11th, 2008 at 4:46 PM
@spencer.. good comparison right there.. his skill set is very similar to sheed.. and if he is 80-90% of sheed, he’s the guy i want over rose on that heat team
April 11th, 2008 at 4:47 PM
I thought the Rays were going to go with Tim Beckham at number one overall…Oh wait, wrong draft.
April 11th, 2008 at 4:47 PM
Nick, Jamison is actually an excellent rebounder for a 3, he’s averaging over 10 this year. And he was a great rebounder at North Carolina averaging 10.5 his senior season.
April 11th, 2008 at 4:48 PM
If you’re in the top two, you stay there. It’s Beasley + Rose and then everyone else.
Trade the rights to draft Beasley so you can pick up Brook Lopez? Haven’t Seattle fans suffered enough?
April 11th, 2008 at 4:48 PM
Love will probably be a top ten pick because no one wants to pass on the “upside potential.” With that said, why not Chicago? They love their white big men. Bill Wennington, Luc Longley, Stacey King. Wait, what? King was black?
April 11th, 2008 at 4:50 PM
Don’t see Sheed in Beasley at all, except in an inside-outside sort of way. But Sheed is a good defender and has that incredible turn-around that I don’t see Beasley developing.
My guess is Beasley gets turned into a perimeter player like Jamison, which would be okay as Marion can easily guard either the 3 or 4.
Rose and Wade have similar styles, but they would absolutely overwhelm smaller guards. Also, the upgrade from Jason Williams to Rose is MUCH greater than Haslem to Beasley.
April 11th, 2008 at 4:50 PM
Perhaps you are right. But i certainly think Walsh knows how to play nice with the media, and he is saying all the right things early.
April 11th, 2008 at 4:52 PM
Memphis will trade almost anything other than Rudy to get Rose… he’s the key to sustained attendance there, and he’ll be better than Conley or Lowry.
April 11th, 2008 at 4:53 PM
@NSR: He’s a 4, though. He’s pretty good for a 4. I just think Beasley can be a much better, elite rebounder.
April 11th, 2008 at 4:53 PM
Stalking, don’t forget the Bulls amazing bench presence of Aaron Grey
April 11th, 2008 at 4:54 PM
a lot of that has to do with size tho. sheed has a good 2-3″ on beasley allowing him to get that sick release point in his turnaround which makes it unguardable. plus he takes up a lot of paint with his long arms and quickness.
beasley plays the same type of game, has the same nose for rebounds and is an acceptable passer, all like sheed. he can hit the outside shot and has a polished post game.
i dunno, i just see brand sheed hybrid.
April 11th, 2008 at 4:54 PM
But August, they would have to overwhelm a team in order to get them to take Conley or Lowry and give up Rose. How is that going to work? Mike Miller ain’t gonna do it.
April 11th, 2008 at 4:55 PM
What upside potential? That he eats his way out of the league in 3 years? His upside is extremely limited. He’s the “safe” pick of the draft.
April 11th, 2008 at 5:00 PM
I think Miami goes with Rose and Seattle takes Beasley they trade Wilcox for a point guard possibly T.J Ford the Raptors prefer Calderon and they could use some muscle on the inside.
April 11th, 2008 at 5:00 PM
Nick, you’re right he’s been playing four the last few years. I believe he was a three for a while though. But you can’t argue with 10+ rpg in the pros.
April 11th, 2008 at 5:01 PM
Oh, yeah, right. I forgot about him, he’s at the end of the bench of a bad team that I had little intrest in watching. Shame on me.
April 11th, 2008 at 5:07 PM
By the way, when I compare Beasley to Jamison, I’m comparing him more to college Jamison than I am to NBA Jamison which are different. I just remember Jamison going high in the draft but then it turned out he wasn’t as big as first thought so they forced him to develop his perimeter game. I think that’s very likely with Beasley as rumors circulate that he’s closer to 6-8 than 6-10.
April 11th, 2008 at 5:08 PM
I would assume that would be a very easy rumor to figure out one way or the other.
April 11th, 2008 at 5:10 PM
@NSR: You may be right, but it was my impression of Jamison as a college player is that he was always back-to-the-basket. Beasley already has a pretty well developed perimeter game already. He’s just a much better scorer than Jamison.
Jamison is a “bucket-getter” and throws up a lot of slop, but he isn’t very efficient.
April 11th, 2008 at 5:10 PM
I’d take Love before Hibbert.
April 11th, 2008 at 5:11 PM
lol, yes, one would hope. The thing is every media outlet simply reports what the teams’ media guides say, which always inflate players’ heights. It’s why you always hear stories about how tall guys really are when measured at pre-draft camps.
April 11th, 2008 at 5:12 PM
Nick, I agree and think this may be an excercise in futility trying to compare him to other players. He’s certainly unique.
April 11th, 2008 at 5:17 PM
What upside potential? That he eats his way out of the league in 3 years? His upside is extremely limited. He’s the “safe†pick of the draft.
Thats a little unfair, there are 6′11 big men that can control their diet. I mean he has had his own nutritionist for four years. As for his skills, he can hit the outside shot, rebound decent, and has a great ability to throw the outlet which translates well to the NBA regular season. I would be happy with him on the Nets.
April 11th, 2008 at 5:36 PM
@NSR,
We’d have to see who gets the top 2 picks, but stranger things have happened… maybe the Griz fall into it and get a break for having the worst luck in the lottery for years.
April 11th, 2008 at 5:44 PM
Earl Clark is not a scoring wing. He’s an athletic freak, yes, but he is unbelievably unpolished. He’s like a really crappy version of Jeff Green (and by really crappy I mean he’d pretty much be the same player Green was in ‘07 if he just came back to college for one more year and learned how to actually be a wing in the NBA). I’m a Louisville fan, and I think Earl has unlimited potential. It’s just not potential he’s going to reach by going in the draft this year. I hope he proves me wrong, but any team that takes him in the top 15 is, in my opinion, going to get a complete bust for at least a few years.
April 11th, 2008 at 10:37 PM
First off…too early for Draft talk…the Lottery needs to happen first…I can’t in all honesty discuss who gets what until we know who picks where…as for the Knicks..this team is going to give away everything except David Lee and expiring contracts hoping beyond hope for Cap Space in 2010..sorry Ohio
April 11th, 2008 at 10:45 PM
Rose 1, Beasley 2, doesn’t matter after that, all the teams this high are so bad that MJ could be in this draft and it wouldn’t help them. Even Rose and Beasley teams are going to suffer if only because of the injury plague that Miami has, and whatever crappy players the other team that takes Beasley has.