Playoff Ballin’: Atlanta’s Joe Johnson Was Incredible
NBA April 29th. 2008, 9:15am
Atlanta 97, Boston 92: Probably the second best game we’ve seen this postseason after the Spurs/Suns opener. After a thrilling, tense first-half, we were certain that once Boston took control of the game in the third quarter, going up by as many as 10 points, it would just be a repeat of Detroit and Philly’s game four. Then Joe Johnson unleashed the entire arsenal, scoring 20 points in the fourth quarter in a performance that left our mouths wide open in a permanent expression of disbelief. Doc Rivers will likely catch some heat for not a) switching Ray Allen off Johnson, b) Not doubling Johnson as soon as he touched the ball. None of that may have mattered though, because when Johnson wasn’t scoring, Josh Smith – who had one tremendous block after another, including a staggering one on KG in the lane in the fourth – was. Johnson (35 points) and Smith (25 points, seven blocks), scored the Hawks final 34 points, including all of them in the fourth quarter.
On the fighting front, Al Horford and Paul Pierce played nice (maybe it was in P-squared’s head – he missed several free throws and blew a layup late), but there was a testy confrontation between KG and Zaza Padilla Pachulia after Garnett elbowed him in the chops. Will be interesting to see if Kendrick Perkins and Marvin Williams are suspended for taking a step onto the floor from the bench during the confrontation.
Not to dampen anyone’s spirits, but there is no way – zero, nil, null – the Celtics choke away game five in vs (OOPS; KNEW THAT) Atlanta. Smells like a 25-point rout. But the mere fact they have to play it makes you wonder about the Cavs chances in the next round, right?
Los Angeles 107, Denver 101: Carmelo Anthony is lucky he went to Syracuse for a year, right? Because the National Title is the only thing saving him from this embarrassment: five years in the NBA, five first-round playoff exits. Two losses to the Spurs, and one to the Lakers, but there are also defeats against the Clippers and T-Wolves. He shot just 36 percent in this series, and had 12 turnovers and eight assists. Kobe (31 points) abused Kenyon Martin down the stretch and the Lakers pulled away (and covered by one measly point).
Orlando 102, Toronto 94: The much-maligned Magic backcourt of Jameer Nelson and Maurice Evans combined for 31 points – offsetting a 1-for-10 from three night from Rashard Lewis and Hedo, combined – and Dwight was Dwight and the Magic are second-round bound. The Magic dominated the glass – Howard collected 10 offensive boards, which was more than the entire Raptors team – by a 55-37 margin, and we’ll be pulling for them in the second round. Howard, who remember is only 22 years old, went for 21 points and 21 rebounds, his third 20-20 game in the series. Dayum.
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April 29th, 2008 at 9:18 AM
YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, and it’s Zaza Pachulia, not Padilla…but the fact that no one has ever heard of Zaza is proof that KG had no business risking messing with him. Plus, Zaza is a caveman (at least he looks like one), and clearly not civilized. He would dominate spindly KG.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:18 AM
LeBron has never led his team to a sweep of a 50 win team.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:20 AM
isnt Pachulia a perfume that hippies wear? fuckin hippies, what with their dego mustaches and their greasy hair.
KG is a fucking pussy. if youre gonna act all tough, don’t wait 2 minutes until refs and teammates get between you. and don’t throw bitch elbows. and don’t beat your chest like a caveman with all taht INTENSITY (in ten cities…NUGENT) and then act like a little bitch.
FUCK KEVIN GARNETT.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:20 AM
He’s a phenom; he’s the best center in the league,” said Raptors star Chris Bosh, who was guarded by Howard all game. “He’s probably the strongest guy in the league, and he knows how to use his body. It doesn’t surprise me at all. I’ve seen him play this whole series, I’ve seen him play this season.”
said by Chris Bosh
Howard had 21 points, 21 rebounds and three blocks – his third 20-20 game in the series
What is next for this team? GREATNESS
April 29th, 2008 at 9:20 AM
If Joe Johnson pulls this off again in game 6, I will buy a Joe Johnson jersey. The only other jersey I own is an Arenas one.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:21 AM
Crazy awesome game in the ATL last night. I turned it on for the hell of it while I did stuff around the house, and ended up being engrossed. Joe Johnson was an absolute stud late in the game, and Josh Smith is a scary gifted player. Some of those blocks are just ridiculous. Has there ever been a better leaper in the league?
As for Denver, they are the Washington Wizards West, or vice versa. Those team, as they are built, will not and never have accomplished anything.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:22 AM
Damn that ATL crowd was incredible! Loved every minute of it.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:22 AM
How fast the most boring first round series turns into the most exciting. Celts seemed to be losing the compsure based on defense that involves fouling. Maybe the old guys are getting tired and that is why the fouls are skyrocketing.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:23 AM
Pachulia, like the hippie stink? Pretty good games all around, even the end of the Lakers game was closer than the final score. Can you say Orlando/Cleveland Eastern Finals…
April 29th, 2008 at 9:23 AM
TBL – I’ll let you borrow my Theo Ratliff Hawks jersey for Game 5 if you need it. Let me know.
I am so disappointed in KG in this series. Spencer is exactly right. KG can punch himself in the heart and act tough as hell when he’s at home and they’re up by 20. But when they’re on the road and losing in the fourth quarter, he plays matador defense. And to mess with Pachulia, when Pachulia wasn’t even doing anything but going for a loose ball (and it’s Zaza Pachulia (said in a Stephen A. voice), for chrissakes!!!) is just stupid. KG, man up and play some defense.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:24 AM
at his height, i doubt it
hells yea
April 29th, 2008 at 9:24 AM
TNT showed Larry Browns brother who is a assistant on Atlanta, speaking to Mike Bibby. He told Bibby that the Celtics are losing there composure. And they sure are F BOSTON
AL HORFORD is killing it
April 29th, 2008 at 9:25 AM
Josh Smith has nothing on the HOPS of Dwight Howard
April 29th, 2008 at 9:27 AM
@Irishmafia – I don’t know, bro…as TBL said, at Smith’s height, it’s just ridiculous.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:28 AM
Dwight Howard can jump over the Eiffel Tower while eating baguettes.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:28 AM
Atlanta is still going to lose the series. Enjoy it while you can
April 29th, 2008 at 9:29 AM
Lebron jumps higher than anyone evah.
Game 5 is in Boston, TBL.
And fucccckk Boston.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:29 AM
Josh Smith can jump over Kobe Bryant jumping over a car.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:30 AM
Oh, we are, Irish…we are.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:30 AM
i watch a lot of basketball, and i can’t remember anyone (other than lebron, but he doesn’t count) in this decade completely dominating a fourth quarter like joe johnson did last night. i’m not saying he’s that great, or that he could do it again, but it was beautiful thing to see.
it was a similar situation to the lebron game last year vs. the pistons…why didn’t they try a different defender on him? why didn’t they knock him down at least once just to shake him up? why didn’t they guard him the length of the floor? why didn’t they double him on the catch? doc rivers is a joke.
and garnett is the DPOY…six years ago.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:30 AM
irish: Josh Smith is a scary leaper. Just scary. He is lightning quick getting up as well. He had 7 freaking blocks last night. Rondo is going to be seeing him in his dreams for years. I bet if Rondo goes to throw something in the trash in his hotel room he’s going to look over his shoulder to make sure Smith doesn’t swat it.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:30 AM
I like KG, but for all his “intensity” he really doesn’t want it with anyone on the court. He’s too passive, except when it comes to punching his teammates in the chest.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:31 AM
RumealRobinson: Dwyane Wade, many times before this past year.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:31 AM
I’ve been saying it since Game 1. KG is ridiculously weak on defense. Perfect example of why these postseason awards are complete BS. Guys win on name/reputation alone.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:33 AM
And on Carmelo, why should we expect him to win a playoff series? He’s just not very good. He needs better players on his team. He can’t do it as the #1.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:33 AM
Joe Johnson was the shit last night! Why didn’t Doc let Pierce guard J.J. last night?
D-Howard punks Chris Bosh.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:34 AM
Sean J, Josh Smith watched that MJ – Bacon hanes spot 10 times during pregame for motivation
April 29th, 2008 at 9:35 AM
if only both detroit and boston would get bounced in the 1st round
April 29th, 2008 at 9:35 AM
@TBL – how do you give ATL no chance now? They didn’t have a chacne before the series started and it’s 2-2. If Boston can choke off 2 games in ATL they can choke off one more. Maybe even one at home.
There is some guy, last name Carney, has crazy hops. Better then Queen Global Bitch and Kobe. Watched him the other night and the kid is fast and jumps to dunk from everywhere.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:35 AM
Cursedcleveland is lucky he went to Syracuse for a year, right? Because the Masters Degree is the only thing saving him from this embarrassment
April 29th, 2008 at 9:35 AM
Lakers only team to sweep 1st round series.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:35 AM
Is Tony Allen hurt?
He’s their best perimeter defender.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:35 AM
WHAT NO TALK ABOUT THE MVP?
Kobe was phenomenal last night. Lakers vs Orlando NBA Finals
April 29th, 2008 at 9:36 AM
@ Nick: Melo has so disappointed me for his entire NBA career. Aside from Lebron in that draft, I thought that he was the best player. But now… I just don’t know. He’s so gifted but doesn’t play a lick of D and doesn’t appear to have any intensity whatsoever. If we could redo the draft, would he even get picked over Bosh at this point?
April 29th, 2008 at 9:36 AM
TBL, actually Kobe did not torch Kenyon last night, he hit two really tough shots on him. It’s JR Smith he torched. Kenyon guarded him tough all series.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:36 AM
Give me a break with that Rodney Carney BS.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:36 AM
Little known fact. Andre Igoudala was recruited by Arkansas, but switched to Arizona after Nolan Richardson got fired. So hypothetically speaking, if Igoudala would have come to Arkansas and stayed until he was a senior, that team would have had him, Joe Johnson as a senior, Janero Pargo as a senior and Ronnie Brewer as a freshman. Damn, what could have been.
/my first ballin post ever.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:36 AM
Because Pierce looked like Tommy Heinsohn out there…the present-day version. Those Celtics looked OLD. And I love how everyone called Horford stupid, saying “Pierce is gonna go OFF in Game 4!!” Yeah. What a game, Paul.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:36 AM
@justin: Nah, Bosh is clearly better.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:37 AM
How does T-Mac catch all this heat for first round losses on absolutely terrible teams, but Carmelo has yet to catch any, and he is surrounded by quality guys. Even the bench is good. Carmelo sucks major balls. The only guy who looked like he cared last night was kenyon martin.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:37 AM
hard to do that shit when youre a pothead stuck in America’s pot capital.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:39 AM
@ ATL aren’t Pierce,Tony Allen and James Posey better defenders than Jesus Shuttlesworth?
PP chocked on the layup.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:39 AM
See, that’s why I come to TBL – I had no idea Denver was the pot capital.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:39 AM
@spencer, when the mavs finally lose and they eventually break up that team, pray that denver doesn’t trade for Josh Howard
April 29th, 2008 at 9:40 AM
@ark: Good first effort in Ballin’
Jannero Pargo is an abortion, though. How good was he in college?
April 29th, 2008 at 9:40 AM
Give me a break with all the Global Byatch Queen BS.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:40 AM
That was absolutely sick, and it’s probably already been said, but game 5 is in Boston and game 6 is in Atlanta, I am stoked!
April 29th, 2008 at 9:41 AM
I think the beating T-Mac takes is unfair. That said, I don’t think Carmelo deserves a beating either. He’s NOT THAT GOOD. Why should we hold him to superstar standards, when he’s not a superstar?
April 29th, 2008 at 9:41 AM
@JB49ers – yes, yes they are. I think Allen is hurt. But like I said Pierce looked winded. They should’ve switched Posey on him, though. Rivers just isn’t a good coach. AGAIN, these postseason awards are ridiculous. Rivers was in everyone’s top 3 for coach of the year, ignoring that he isn’t coaching any better – he just got better players. He’s still an idiot. Simmons was right to kill him last year…everything he said is true.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:42 AM
I think Melo doesn’t catch flack because everyone knows he a selfish fuck up, so very little is really expected of him. I mean is anyone here even remotely surprised the Nuggets are done?
April 29th, 2008 at 9:42 AM
Pargi isn’t an abortion now, and he was a great shooter and scorer in college too. Pargo has been great for the Hornets.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:42 AM
@nick p- Carmelo has a better shot than Lebron. Carmelo creates his own shots better than Lebron. I can keep going
April 29th, 2008 at 9:42 AM
I sure hope this doesn’t save Mike Woodson’s job
April 29th, 2008 at 9:43 AM
-Nick. Pargo was the only shooter they had on that team, so out of process of elimination he was the scorer. I watched his brother who played for Gonzaga and he seems much better.
By the way, I hate Bronson Arroyo, more on that later.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:44 AM
@irish: Keep going. I mean it’s fun to hear people make up lies for their own amusement. I enjoy hearing them. Here’s one: Dwight will never be good until he gets a work ethic. Amare Stoudemire is outworking him every night and all summer long. Dwight’s just a lazy fuck, IMO.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:44 AM
lol @ Carmelo creates his shot better than Lebron. Stop it. Also, I like after one bad year, everyone forgets that Wade even exists or plays in the NBA, and people think Carmello is better than he is. Seriously?
April 29th, 2008 at 9:44 AM
How is Pargo an abortion when he goes for something like 30 in game three to keep them in the game, and does exactly what he is supposed to when he comes in. He keeps the Hornets in the game when Paul goes out. In fact I think they actually got and grew a lead with him running the point while Paul was sitting in game four. He may not be the best, but he might be the best backup.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:45 AM
@ark: Join the club. Arroyo sucks ass.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:47 AM
lebron gets out of the 1st round better than carmello does
April 29th, 2008 at 9:47 AM
Irish – making up stuff up like carmelo is good is not funny. He does have a good shot, but seriously as much as I hate on Queen Global Crybaby he does set himself up way better then melo.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:47 AM
irish…come on. carmelo has a MUCH more refine post game than LBJ, but that’s about it. oh, and probably FT% too.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:47 AM
Ladies and gentleman, I give you the reason Lakers fans probably don’t trust Lamar Odom come playoff time: 4 Games, 11.8 ppg, 9.3 rebounds, 41% from the field, 11/20 from the foul line.
And trust me, he played worse than those stats indicate. Keep in mind, he did this in a sweep!
April 29th, 2008 at 9:47 AM
Because the 316 games Pargo has played in his career tell me more about him than one supersweet (fer serial!!!) playoff game.
He’s a joke.
Even Tony Delk had 50 in a game before. Doesn’t mean he’s sweet.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:48 AM
all you fucks calm down. nick p and i can joke
April 29th, 2008 at 9:49 AM
Loved watching the Celtics shit the bed in Atlanta. I guess home court does sort of matter.
Who would you rather want to close out a series in the 4th quarter? Dirk and KG, or Kobe? If you watched last night’s Laker game and say anyone over Kobe I give up.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:49 AM
Wow, Nick P threw down the Tony Delk card
April 29th, 2008 at 9:50 AM
Carmello is a very good scorer. I wouldn’t even say he’s a great scorer, but very good. That’s it. Not a good team player, not a good defender, not anything else really. Scorers are a dime a dozen. Kenny Smith says it best when he said he is a ball stopper. When the ball gets to Carmello, it stops, and there is no more ball movement. That doesn’t work well usually.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:51 AM
Who’s the backup point for the cavs? LBJ, I think. So when West leaves the court the superstar has to do even more work. When Paul leaves the court everyone can continue to play the way they have without changing the gameplan.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:52 AM
@cbh- Kobe is the best player in the league. HANDS DOWN
ALL YOU haters on this mfing board HOWARD 3 20/20 games in 5 games
get some
April 29th, 2008 at 9:52 AM
Give up. I take the King.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:52 AM
Seriously, how badass is howard going to be when he finally gets some offensive moves in the post. He a f’ing monster right now just cleaning boards and dunking.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:52 AM
Is anyone hating on Howard? Like, ever?
April 29th, 2008 at 9:53 AM
LeBron has won at every level except college and pro.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:54 AM
@sandibalz, I think they play Boobie Gibson at the point when west is out
April 29th, 2008 at 9:54 AM
@nick p- your sorry ass CAvs wont get past the Celtics. Orlando on the other hand, is going to crush any opponent.
Orlando shot poorly from three point land all series. That is there bread and butter RIGHT TBL? still won in 5 games with ease
April 29th, 2008 at 9:55 AM
@cursed, once again i have to say that stats don’t tell all story. Odom was good in the games on LA, but it’s a fact that he disappears on game 1. People tend to remember that Kobe sucked in Game 1 (which is true) but he was the only player capable of scoring on the 4th quarter (18pts) not Gasol nor Odom. That’s my problem with Odom, in the 4th quarter he disappears or makes mental mistakes à la Odom.
And Example 502 that stats don’t tell all story. This season Carmelo shot 49,2%, LeBron shot 48,4%. If i used stupidity as an argument than i would say that imagine the Cavalies with Carmelo instead of LeBron.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:55 AM
If this was addressed above, I’m sorry – but isn’t game 5 in Boston? I thought they only did 2-3-2 for the Finals
April 29th, 2008 at 9:56 AM
I wonder what happens in the offseason with ‘melo; his contract is coming up and they could trade him…
April 29th, 2008 at 9:56 AM
Quick straw poll: How many of the newer guys around here, come on to purposefully misunderstand someone’s post and get riled up about it? Half? Two thirds?
April 29th, 2008 at 9:57 AM
@Roeth- GAme 5 is in Boston
April 29th, 2008 at 9:57 AM
Rodney Carney of the 76ers? The guy who played in Memphis?
April 29th, 2008 at 9:57 AM
@Clown – Probably the funniest comment I have read on this site not to use the word Blumpkin.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:57 AM
Please stop with the Melo is not a good team player crap. His syracuse team was very good. He was arguably the best player on Team usa. Nuggets Def over teh course of teh season was not as bad as msm makes you think because of the total points they gave up (at a high pace). George Karl is most likely the problem. And maybe not having a true point guard.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:57 AM
@Roeth: You’re right. Game 5 is in boston. Goes 2-2-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-7
April 29th, 2008 at 9:58 AM
I’m imagining a 33 win team.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:59 AM
cbh…think the wiz can pull one out tomorrow in c-town or is the name change comin on thursday?
April 29th, 2008 at 9:59 AM
i don’t think what wade did in the finals was comparable to what johnson and lebron did the last two years. miami did a lot of pick and rolls, a lot of dump-ins to shaq, and then he took the ball on a hand-off-like play. with johnson and lebron, they just took the ball at halfcourt and scored, several times in a row.
piss on wade. he’ll be lucky to win another playoff series before he’s 32, at which point he will strong arm miami into trading him to a better team, a la iverson and shaq.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:59 AM
Yes, Rodney Carney. Probably still has work to do to be a better team/all around player, but when they put him in, he’s got a different gear than everyone else. And from what I saw, every shot he took was a dunk, or at least he tried a dunk over everyone.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:00 AM
Example number 666 of how goldmining for any single statistic ones feels to prove a point gives a bad name to these nerd tools called ’statistics’
April 29th, 2008 at 10:00 AM
That is arguably the argument of a crazy person.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:00 AM
SM: He’s a scorer. That’s it. He doesn’t move the ball very well, doesn’t play good defense, isn’t a team leader (hence his pouting in the Laker series). I don’t see anything the guy does other than score, which a lot of other players in this league can do (Like his teammate AI).
Also, using the Team USA reference is hilarious. The same Team USA that was embarassing in world competition. Go Carmello!
April 29th, 2008 at 10:01 AM
fixed for accuracy.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:01 AM
Where’s Mike NYC? What’s his new handle going to be?
April 29th, 2008 at 10:01 AM
I’ll be Chi-town tonight for work, so I’m excited to be able to watch both the Jazz game tonight and still get to bed at a decent hour.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:01 AM
I will not listen to an argument about two things: one, that Gays should not be allowed to marry, and two, that James White isn’t the best dunker in the world. If he did the between the legs dunk from the free throw line in the NBA dunk contest, it would go down as the best in the history of the free world: http://youtube.com/watch?v=rZ42dclfGKA
April 29th, 2008 at 10:01 AM
and that team couldnt win the special olympics so…
April 29th, 2008 at 10:01 AM
No hating on Wade. The guy played for the worst coach ever, on the worst team ever, and played his guts out hurt. Hate on him next year when he’s got a new coach and some decent teammates.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:03 AM
god i was only joking with Nick P about Carmelo and look what it turned into to
April 29th, 2008 at 10:03 AM
RumealRobinson: What on earth are you talking about. Are you really saying Joe Johnson is better than Wade in the clutch because of one game in the first round of the playoffs? Did you watch any of the games Wade played in before the Finals? He consistently won games in the fourth quarter for the Heat, in the regular season, and throughout every playoff series. Just ask Detroit. That is maybe the most ridiculous argument I have ever seen.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:04 AM
irish…tensions run hot in Ballin’.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:04 AM
For the first time a opinion not based on stats. Halleluah!
April 29th, 2008 at 10:05 AM
@irish: please see my comment about people purposefully misunderstanding other peoples’ posts.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:05 AM
Sean jean- Where was D Wade this year? gave up didnt he? quitter imo
April 29th, 2008 at 10:06 AM
If the Celtics get knocked out of the first round (Big If), biggest upset ever? Also, KG biggest choker ever?
April 29th, 2008 at 10:06 AM
@hef- is that towards me or something ? where you been?
April 29th, 2008 at 10:06 AM
Please dont use the Team USA could not win it all, so Melo sucks factset. Or if you do you need to include Kobe, Bron, Dwight sucking as well.
Melo has excled in other facets of the game than scoring when he has been away from George Karl. Its amazing how he magically plays defense and moves the ball under Boheim and Coach K.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:06 AM
Hef…WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? ARE YOU SAYING IM A DUMBASS? FUCK YOU.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:06 AM
USA basketball was shit until Kobe came aboard.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:06 AM
Boston is retarded. You have to break his ocular bone. Thats how you stop JJ.
-Jerry Stackhouse
April 29th, 2008 at 10:07 AM
SM…i like melo, i was just attempting to be witty.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:07 AM
My favorite joke from 2006: After the finals, Dirk Nowitzki was sitting still at a red light when all of sudden out of nowhere, Dywane Wade crashes into him, totalling his car. When the cops got to the scene, they gave Dirk a ticket and allowed Dywane to sue Dirk.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:07 AM
Kobe was Team USA’s lock down defender, and a couple games he came out and dominated first quarters to put them ahead for good.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:07 AM
I love Odom in quarters 1-3 he scares me in quarter 4.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:08 AM
@irish and spence: Don’t make me out to be the bad guy, you fucks. I’ll kill you. I’ll kill all of you.
[laughs maniacally]
April 29th, 2008 at 10:08 AM
Hef…quality stuff there.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:09 AM
SM: I’m simply using your argument. You said Carmello was the best player on Team USA! Well, that Team USA sucked ass, so that’s not a good thing for Carmello.
I don’t think he sucks or anything, he’s just a pretty one dimensional player. He is doomed on a team full of other players just like him (AI, JR Smith, etc.).
April 29th, 2008 at 10:10 AM
irish: where have i been? My team’s down 3-1. I don’t have a lot to say. I called game 2, was astonished by game 3. Barely watched game 4 because I know that tonight, game 5, will end in a 10 point defeat. If I’m wrong, I might be in a ballin mood tomorrow. Until then…it’s baseball season.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:10 AM
Dwyayayne Wade quit this season when he found out Bennett Salvatore wouldn’t be reffing all of his games. Later, he popped a knuckle and had to be taken out of Victoria’s Secret in a wheelchair. Also, he’s dating Star Jones.
Fuck Wade.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:11 AM
four games tonite doubleheader on tnt and nba t.v my predictions
Wiz by 2
spurs by 10
rockets by 3
hornets by 10
April 29th, 2008 at 10:11 AM
Anyway, I’m not going to whine and continue to defend Wade, I just don’t get all the hate towards him. He’s a good dude, had one of the best starts to a career in history before injuries caught up to him over the past year, and now everyone thinks he sucks balls. I just don’t get it.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:12 AM
@ch4: Nah, it’s still based on stats. I think Lebron’s better rebounding and assisting, better everything basically, except possibly shooting, would lead LBJ to be worth at least 12 more wins to a team than Carmelo.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:12 AM
Clown, that’s the 5th Bennett Salvatore reference in the past two weeks. Even Jerry Seinfeld thinks your material is getting old!!
But I still laughed.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:12 AM
Sean Jean, nobody thinks Carmelo is better than anybody. Do they not have irony in Tennessee?
April 29th, 2008 at 10:12 AM
@hef- at least you got the MLB season. Im going to be lost on this site until next NBA season. That is why im hoping the Magic go as far as they can.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:12 AM
I’m sorry, Texas.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:12 AM
Spencer, name change coming on Thursday, and the Wizards will still be talking, except no one will be listening.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:13 AM
That’s Tennessee Hef.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:13 AM
I’m not sure if I follow you, but are you actually saying that I’m more prolific in bed than Wilt was? If correct, I got no reason to get riled up so quit trying to cause unnecessary drama.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:13 AM
LeBron is better than Carmello but is he better than Darko?
April 29th, 2008 at 10:13 AM
Hef – I feel exactly the same. If they pull a win tonight. I am back in the series. Until then I’ll watch the NL favortie
April 29th, 2008 at 10:14 AM
Did you guys see Dwight Howard last night? Looked like an MVP in that preseason game against Miami.
/irish’s first ballin post in October
April 29th, 2008 at 10:14 AM
@clown- see what your boy Bosh said about Howard in my comment #4. Chris bosh cant hang with Howard. Hey, Rashard Lewis is from Texas. So you gotta like his game. He had two double doubles the past two games, he had only one all regular season
April 29th, 2008 at 10:15 AM
That’s rough, irish. Summer is my favorite time of year for sports. I’m more baseball than basketball. Mostly because this team can’t win a goddam championship despite being overloaded with talent. Fuckin Dantoni…
April 29th, 2008 at 10:15 AM
cavs wiz is tomorrow night
and ther arent winning by 2 in cleveland
April 29th, 2008 at 10:16 AM
Hef – is it “Hef” like Hugh Hefner? Are you saying you’re boning my wife? I hate you, you bastard!!!!
April 29th, 2008 at 10:16 AM
I’m with you Sean Jean, DWade has shown he can win. The past two years have used up some of the credits earned for that title, but he’s still a great player. I’m hoping that he gets healthy and they draft Beasley.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:16 AM
Hef: When Phoenix got Shaq, they sold their soul. They should have just taken a dump and laid it under the basket for 15 minutes a game and saved themselves millions.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:16 AM
cbh…that’s so sad. i honestly feel sympathetic.
irish…adopt a baseball team. rays are in the area, maybe the braves?
April 29th, 2008 at 10:17 AM
My full name is Heffy Hef Leibowitz.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:17 AM
coop: I’d rather they get Rose. I think with a good point guard and Marion and Wade, that team does a 180 from the collection of fossils surrounding Wade the Heat were the previous 3-4 years.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:17 AM
Irish don’t forget about the summer games. The front court possibility of D.Howard and Amare would be entertaining as hell.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:18 AM
@Sean Jean: Why did they sell their soul? He wasn’t much more than Marion, and that’s what he did in the playoffs every year. Marion can tongue my taint.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:19 AM
Hef: They are about to lose 4-1 in the first round of the playoffs. Last year with Marion they were a couple of bad calls and a Canadian’s broken nose from going to the finals. Kind of a big difference.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:19 AM
My apologies to Irish for drifting OT from his beloved Ballin’: Spence, being the O Line homo that you are, did you see this Dr. Z draft quote from today? Good stuff.
Detroit Lions: I saw their top pick, tackle Gosder Cherilus, in the Senior Bowl. He was blowing people off the line. Run blocking catches my eye. Pass blocking is like watching Dancing With the Stars with my wife. I know, I know, it’s more important, the way the game is played today, but I’m old and my prejudices are meaningful to me.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:19 AM
Team USA is a joke because they did not win it all in 2006, where they lost 1 game that prominetly featured some dude named Hinrich. They were undefeated in 07. That would be like saying the Pats sucked last year and Randy too for be associated with such a crap team.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:21 AM
Team USA is the real deal this summer now that Kobe’s in charge and LeBron can be a sidekick.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:21 AM
@clown: I fart in your general direction.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:21 AM
what is the TEAM USA Starting lineup ? i totally forgot about that this summer
April 29th, 2008 at 10:22 AM
Team USA could be pretty sick with Howard, CP3, Deron (He has to be on this team), and Kobe and Lebron. They have all the pieces. Could be a non-stop highlight film.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:24 AM
Sean John- I understand your blatant hate for the big fella but there was no way with Marion they would be in a better posistion. Don’t use the they were in 1st argument because they had a front loaded schedule of East teams. The Suns were getting destroyed by every talented team with Marion, on top of losing to teams like Minnesota. Phoenix sold their soul about 2 years ago when they gave a the most improved player 9 million dollars a year. Now all their fate is directly tied to him. Damn Frenchman.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:25 AM
OK. The problem is per 36 minutes Carmelo has 7.3rpg and LeBron has 7.0rpg this season. Oops caught in lie #76662. Nothing new here…
April 29th, 2008 at 10:25 AM
nomo…i saw that. it’s a good thing he acknowledges that pass blocking is more important, because in today’s NFL it’s vastly more significant. oh and gosder cherilus couldn’t block a pass rush to save his life, it’s a good thing he’ll be an RT.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:25 AM
it would be nice if Phoenix kept some of their draft picks
/ Rajon Rondo
April 29th, 2008 at 10:26 AM
Somebody call somebody a sunt!
April 29th, 2008 at 10:26 AM
PG : Paul
SG: Kobe
SF: Lebron
PF: Amare
C Howard
Dream Team 08
April 29th, 2008 at 10:26 AM
YYSA: I think they would have been, but that’s just my personal opinion. Shaq adds nothing to that team (don’t give me defense or rebounding. He does neither better than Marion), and is a total clash to their style of offense. All in all, I just think he’s a joke of a player the past 3-4 years and I don’t see why anyone would pay top money to have him play on their team. Much less a team like Phoenix.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:27 AM
CP3 Kobe LeBron Stoudamire Howard sounds real nice.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:27 AM
Sean Jean…Team USA is gonna be disgusting this year. if only they took Kidd off the roster.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:27 AM
irish: That is a sick lineup.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:28 AM
spencer: I agree completely. Deron needs to be on that team.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:28 AM
@CH4: You caught me. You are one great detective. Thanks for pulling yourself away from scouting euroleague games so that you can come with the insight. You are the absolute pimp crush.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:29 AM
I agree with you Sean Jean the suns traded for Shaq to improve their defense and the Parker and Ginobili are just abusing him on pick and rolls constantly.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:29 AM
They just want to make sure in 2 years 30 mill frees up so they can bring Lebron to play with Stat.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:31 AM
YYSA: Amare’s going to Brooklyn? This is all news to me.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:32 AM
Lets go 76ers.
Need Philly to win so Orlando can cruise to the Conference Finals
April 29th, 2008 at 10:32 AM
I love how people get all worked up in message boards. Oh boy.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:33 AM
@sean jean- sick lineup indeed. I wish Coach K has nothing to do with this team
April 29th, 2008 at 10:33 AM
ENOUGH FUCKIGN LEBRON JAMES LEAVING TALK GOD DAMNIT.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:33 AM
@irish and all: Good link with some praise for your boy.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:33 AM
@Ch40s- who is getting worked up on here today?
did you watch the Orlando game last night? Nelson did well
April 29th, 2008 at 10:34 AM
@Sean Jean: It’s the same team you sunt. (This is a delayed reaction. I had to take my son to the bus). They’re losing to the Spurs again. Of course I’m upset but Marion would have caused the suns to lose in 4 games because he stinks worse than my nuts do (I haven’t showered yet).
April 29th, 2008 at 10:34 AM
if jameer keeps playing the way he did last night the magic will go pretty far
April 29th, 2008 at 10:35 AM
Besides you will all eat your words when the Suns come back to win in 7!!!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
/worked up
April 29th, 2008 at 10:35 AM
@ Sean John –
I love Deron Williams, but I think he will give CPaul breaks when he needs them. Let’s just say that I like Team USA better now that Paul and Williams have come into their own. They were better last year with Kidd, because he understands how to get the ball to the right guys. I think Paul and Williams can do the same things…
April 29th, 2008 at 10:35 AM
@nick: That link is bullshit. Amare is listed 4th. Ain’t know way that’s true.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:36 AM
@big worm- you were close last night with the prediction. Nelson is stepping up huge and i love it. Talked poorly about him all year and now he is finally playing to his level
April 29th, 2008 at 10:37 AM
@irish, nop. I only saw the highlights this morning. Let’s see if he can keep this form against Billups or Andre Miller.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:37 AM
@Hef: Your mom.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:37 AM
CP3 and Deron >>>>>>> Kidd at this point. i used to be a big Kidd fan (until his wife pissed me off) but he’s past his prime. might as well beat those euro trash pieces of shit and those smarmy argentinians by 30 instead of 20…get Deron in there.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:37 AM
Wally: I’m not quite sure what you are saying. As far as I know, J Kidd is on Team USA this year, not Deron. I was saying that should be the other way around. I think maybe you agree?
Hef: You are.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:38 AM
Melo will start at PF he shot nearly 60% from international 3 in 2007
April 29th, 2008 at 10:39 AM
@ch40s- it will be hard for him against those guys. I like Andre Miller and how he gets his teammates involved. Billups is still money imo
Orlando has the best frontcourt in the NBA. Hedo needs to step his game up. Rahard is, but Hedo has been very inconsistent
April 29th, 2008 at 10:39 AM
dear sean jean,
i said the one quarter performance by joe johnson hasn’t been seen in the playoffs in a decade (besides lebron). i don’t remember wade single-handedly taking over an entire quarter like that. he played with freaking shaq for god’s sake.
i never once said johnson was better than wade or that he’s been more clutch. just a one quarter performance. if beno udrih played like that, i would have said the same thing.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:39 AM
@nick p- smart people run that website
April 29th, 2008 at 10:41 AM
RR: Go look back at the tape. He took over numerous fourth quarters. Just like that. Often while Shaq was on the bench.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:41 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RuvPpzPiIec: Your mom!
Sean Jean: Takes one to know one.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:42 AM
@irish..yeah i guess it took the playoffs to finally wake him up but i’m glad we got him going now
we’ve got a nice chance against whoever wins the detroit philly series
April 29th, 2008 at 10:42 AM
But he was also the only sun who could guard tony parker
April 29th, 2008 at 10:43 AM
Messed up the link button. You got lucky, Nick.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:44 AM
Yeah, it worked so well, the suns kept losing to the spurs. Marion’s a genius.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:44 AM
@bigworm- im praying for Philly. Detroit and Orlando will be a great series. Orlando matches up very well with Boston and Detroit. when i was watching the Post game interviews, Dwight is more focused then i have seen him all year. Usually joking and all, but not now. Scary for the other teams, just downright scary. Three 20/20 performances in 5 playoff games is unheard of
April 29th, 2008 at 10:46 AM
Can’t view that Hef. Cincy Kid…again?
April 29th, 2008 at 10:47 AM
Marions smarts have no factor in Amare’s defensive liabilities
April 29th, 2008 at 10:48 AM
@Nick: I’m a one trick pony. Haven’t you learned that yet?
April 29th, 2008 at 10:49 AM
Also, in the grand scheme of things, while many teams fail to reach the promised land, it’s not that this team sucks or this move didn’t work or this guy couldn’t get it done. It’s mostly that the Spurs are just annoyingly good and efficient, and just always get it done in the playoffs. They’ll probably win it all again this year and it’ll be boring after the western conference playoffs like usual.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:50 AM
BUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!1!1!!11!!!!
April 29th, 2008 at 10:50 AM
April 29th, 2008 at 10:51 AM
Sean…again, couldnt agree more (welker is overrated). tho, spurs vs. lakers has the makings for some incredible basketball.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:52 AM
lol @ welker. Coldplay rules. I’m out.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:52 AM
Seems to me like the East is the exciting playoffs right now
April 29th, 2008 at 10:55 AM
YYSA: Somewhat true. I like the Hawks series a lot, but before it got interesting I couldn’t care less about the East. Given Orlando and Cleveland’s success it could get more interesting though. If we have Detroit vs. Boston though I will take a rain check.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:55 AM
Sean…funny stuff.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:57 AM
Cleveland on tonight?
LETS GO wizards LETS GO. lol yeah right, stick a fork in the Wiz
April 29th, 2008 at 11:00 AM
Nah Wednesday, irish.
April 29th, 2008 at 11:02 AM
Hey, did anyone see the pictures of Terrell Owens at a porno shoot by the BangBros
http://www.thedirty.com/?p=22619
SFW
April 29th, 2008 at 11:03 AM
irish, the girl in that picture looks familiar, where have i seen her….
April 29th, 2008 at 11:04 AM
no tomorrow night
April 29th, 2008 at 11:06 AM
@coop- love those hoes
How come Cleveland gets all this time off? really
April 29th, 2008 at 11:07 AM
These two day breaks are really annoying, but I guess thats the price you pay for greatness.
/even I laughed at that
April 29th, 2008 at 11:07 AM
irish…i have no idea, but it’s bugging the shit out of me. why the hell do we have to wait?
April 29th, 2008 at 11:08 AM
Late, but i must agree … no way Marion helps the Suns. I fondly remember last year in the first game .. he tried to guard Parker but was a non-factor.
The Suns/Spurs 3-1 mark is deceiving. If wild shit doesn’t happen in game 1, totally new series. I just think the Suns got a shaft for the 2nd year in a row – last year it was no top 3 pick in the draft (because Atlanta ended up with the 4th, i think; if it had been 3rd, it would have gone to Phoenix), and this year it was the Spurs draw.
Sucks.
April 29th, 2008 at 11:08 AM
you know irish the 1st time u said that i was like big deal but all these other teams are playing with 1 days rest (boston and atl play tomorrow…with a travel day)
it is a little weird, but after they beat washington tomorrow them like orlando will have a lot of time off
April 29th, 2008 at 11:08 AM
try three days for Cleveland. They played what Sunday morning and now they dont play until Wednesday. NBA is giving them a lot of time in between games. Is it for ratings or what?
David Stern humps LEbron
April 29th, 2008 at 11:10 AM
Will Deshaun Stevenson be on the next Team USA? Apparently the guy is sick as basketball
April 29th, 2008 at 11:10 AM
i just dont get it. Is it fair? i dont think so. But both teams are getting the same amount( WAsh & Cleve) its just weird to me that they have more time off than any other series going on
April 29th, 2008 at 11:11 AM
cleveland humps lebron…and there’s no shame in that whatsoever.
April 29th, 2008 at 11:12 AM
it is in lebrons secret NBA contract that says he gets moire time off in any series. its right after the part where it says his nike deal goes to 1 billion if he plays in NY
/sarcasm
April 29th, 2008 at 11:12 AM
id rather have the short rest if im a bball player…keep the rhythm going instead of having to wait so long. a day off is more than enough to recharge the batteries.
April 29th, 2008 at 11:13 AM
TBL: The voice of reason on the Ballin Boards.
April 29th, 2008 at 11:13 AM
I don’t think it’s been mentioned, but did anybody see Haywood quoted saying that Lebron need to quit whining and play ball. In reference to LBJ saying that it looked like they were trying to hurt him. Seriously, this from a team down 3-1. That’s just what they need to do, piss off LBJ even more so he can bring even more heat. Maybe the wizards should shut the fuck up and play ball.
April 29th, 2008 at 11:16 AM
TBL, you have it backwards, Atl got the third pick in the draft and that protected it from Phoenix, if they had gotten the 4th, it would have gone to phoenix
April 29th, 2008 at 11:16 AM
@Spence: Did you feel the same way on 4/21?
April 29th, 2008 at 11:17 AM
has anyone mentioned whether or not KG will be suspended for shoving that ref? i think tbl mentioned 2 guys for putting a toe on the court from the bench, but i dont know if it has been brought up re KG
and sand their strategy of talking shit about lebron has worked so well thus far, no need to dial it back now
April 29th, 2008 at 11:17 AM
From a fan perspective, I’d like them to play games more often.
It’s not like they’re getting an advantage over other teams, though.
April 29th, 2008 at 11:17 AM
Ug. I can’t stand the Wizards. I live in DC and have tried so many times to get behind them, but I just can’t. They are so many things I hate about NBA basketball (Caron Butler not withstanding).
April 29th, 2008 at 11:18 AM
maybe haywood should get good at basketball first then criticize an all-star once he moves past that step.
April 29th, 2008 at 11:20 AM
nomo…4/21 sucked. seriously, who puts 4/20 on a sunday? dumbasses.
April 29th, 2008 at 11:21 AM
fixed.
April 29th, 2008 at 11:23 AM
mmonsat – if by working well you mean sucking like a hooker tring to save her life unsuccessfully then I totally agree.
April 29th, 2008 at 11:24 AM
nomo – +1
I’ll try to do better next time.
April 29th, 2008 at 11:42 AM
Let’s go T-Mac!
April 29th, 2008 at 11:58 AM
The only think Denver is missing is a better backup PG, Anthony Carter was killing them with his bricks last night and a better coach. JR Smith is only going to get better, AI, Camby and KMart all have at least 2 good years left and Melo will learn to defend. Najera, Nene are good role players. George Karl is a terrible coach, he is a quick fix kind of coach, he can get a team to overachieve for the first year or so but then his act gets old really quick. He should be a permanent interim coach, teams that fire their coach mid-seaso should bring him in but bot get fooled into giving him the keys long term.
April 29th, 2008 at 12:10 PM
Denver just got swept 4-0 for a 4th consecutive exit in the first round of the playoffs, and all they need is a better backup PG? Good call. All the Heat need is a new equipment manager.
April 29th, 2008 at 12:12 PM
Denver did absolutely nothing before Melo arrived, and they have made the Playoffs in the West for 5 years straight. When a team fundamentally breaks down as much as this Denver team has,it has to do with coaching more than players. Carmelo does get his own shot better than LeBron at this point. Also, I would venture to say that Carmelo would post up a smaller player like Stevenson much more than LeBron has shown the ability to do at 6′9″ 260.
April 29th, 2008 at 12:13 PM
The Nuggets just need to swap conferences. It’s debatable, but I think they could have gotten to the Eastern Conference finals if the matchups were right. They looked bad because they played the Lakers… They had 50 wins, they’re not terrible.
April 29th, 2008 at 12:17 PM
@Sean Jean – player wise they need a better backup PG, their biggest need is a new coach. I was thinking Larry Brown but he has been around the block too may times, give an assistant a shot who can coach defense and get the players to buy into his system because clearly Karl lost the players a while ago, they probably would have been better off missing the playoffs.
April 29th, 2008 at 12:40 PM
pwned: Player wise, they need an entirely different dynamic. That one won’t work just because they sign Jacques Vaughn. They are a team full of jump shooting one on one players. The Wizard and the Nuggets should be warped back to the mid 90s where they belong.
April 29th, 2008 at 12:40 PM
I wonder how Billy Donovan is feeling right now.
April 29th, 2008 at 12:43 PM
Carmelo is a beast on the block. The nuggets need to learn to play defense and i dont think coach karl is th e guy for the job.
April 29th, 2008 at 12:44 PM
Dononvan’s prob a lil pissed but he has a couple million to wipe his tears away.
April 29th, 2008 at 1:25 PM
I don’t know a lot about a lot but I am going to say that I am 100% sure Pargo is not an abortion, which he has been referred to as several times.
An abortion is the removal or expulsion of an embryo or fetus from the uterus, resulting in or caused by its death.
Did we mean aberration?
Aberration – A deviation from the proper or expected course.
April 29th, 2008 at 3:16 PM
@Flying Sandos Bros:
There is more than one definition…
4. Any fruit or produce that does not come to maturity, or anything which in its progress, before it is matured or perfect; a complete failure; as, his attempt proved an abortion.
Now, I wouldn’t call Pargo a complete failure. I think that’s a strong term, especially sports wise. A better use would be Duke’s tourney run for the 2nd year in a row was an abortion…
April 29th, 2008 at 8:41 PM
@flying sandos: First, nice name.
Also, in re: abortion. Look up the definition of “slang.” It’s a noun. There you’ll find the answer you crave.