Ballin’: The NBA, Where Home Teams Don’t Lose
NBA May 15th. 2008, 10:20am
If we could read his berry: “Not this year.”
Boston 96, Cleveland 89: What really hurt was the end of the first half. Rondo hit two three’s and Ray Allen hit one and a 13-point lead with about four minutes left in the half was whittled to three at recess. The entire first half was wasted. Props to Rondo for a very strong game – 20 points, 13 assists and one turnover – and even more go out to Doc Rivers, who was wise enough to sit the vastly overrated Sam Cassell. We kept scratching our head when the Celtics went after him – for whatever reason, Celtics fans badly wanted the guy – they were treating Rondo like he was Jameer Nelson or something. We’d take a young, defensive-minded Rondo 9 times out of 10 over a mouthy, belligerent, heat-checking defensive sieve. LeBron was a monster in the first half, and in the second half the shots just weren’t falling. Still not ready to count the Cavs out, because other than two hot streaks for Boston – end of the first half and the first six minutes of the second half – this game was even. The Cavs will need to erase that 11-assist, 16-turnover performance to take game seven, that’s for sure.
Los Angeles Lakers 111, Utah 104: Had to bail after the first quarter. Like the Jazz, love their talent, and think they’d probably beat the Spurs or Hornets. But winning a clutch game in LA just isn’t happening. Beating Kobe (and David Stern) at home in a game seven? Ha. The highlights show Pau Gasol scoring layup after layup, and it actually sickens us because that dolt Chris Wallace gave him to LA for next to nothing. In two years, when the Lakers have a title or two, and when his little brother and Javaris Crittenton have done nothing in Memphis, this may go down as one of the most lopsided deals in NBA history. But before we crown the Lakers champs, Gasol-KG would make for a glorious slugfest. Bynum-KG would have been better, though.
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May 15th, 2008 at 10:23 AM
well the most important game of the year turned out bad for Cavs fans huh? great game by Rajon Rando
stayed up late to see Kobe. too late to watch the entire game but it was a hell of a first half.
“Kobe is the best player in the league and has been for a long time”- Larry Bird from SI
May 15th, 2008 at 10:23 AM
Rondo played great. BIG BABY DAVIS!
Not a great game for the Lakers’ bench but Gasol and Odom stepped up down the stretch.
May 15th, 2008 at 10:25 AM
Laker games dont end until midnight or later.
Stern needs to get the western conference games on earlier.
May 15th, 2008 at 10:25 AM
You know, its almost like the Cavs should have kept going to LeBron after he scored 23 in the first quarter and a half.
May 15th, 2008 at 10:26 AM
@jbh49ers – Eastern Conference games should be played in arenas without cameras.
May 15th, 2008 at 10:27 AM
@crm maybe they could show them on tape delay
May 15th, 2008 at 10:27 AM
eh, ill give it to the Celts…they turned it around in the 2nd half. cavs just got beat, it was one of those nights. there isnt much to place blame on other than the cavs’ poor FT shooting.
boston shot the ball extremely well, but they didn’t get shit in the way of FTA because THEY DON’T FUCKING DRIVE. theyre a jump shooting team and it’s gonna bite them in the ass sooner or later.
game 6 should be fun…i wanna get tix.
May 15th, 2008 at 10:27 AM
Cavs had their chances, every time they got it close Boston would get a basket. They shot almost 60% in the second half, not much you can do when Rondo and Big Baby are hitting every shot they take.
Friday night will be a great night of ball, both home teams in win or go home situations.
May 15th, 2008 at 10:29 AM
The Celts went back to PP on LeBron after the great start. James went back to his jump shooting woes, going 3 for 13 on jumpers. He also forgot about Z and wasn’t really creating for his teammates. I’m guessing (hoping) things will be different at home.
May 15th, 2008 at 10:32 AM
Watched the whole Lakers game, Utah kept tying it but never was able to take the lead, they had their chances TBL, they just blew them. Kobe took like one shot in the fourth quarter, the rest of the team outside of that idiot Vujacic really stepped up. Lamar Odom played great.
Series won’t go 7, Lakers are winning game 6.
May 15th, 2008 at 10:33 AM
Definitely saw what Simmons was talking about with Cassell, when the Celtics were trying to choke at the end and kept turning the ball over Cassell was flipping out on the sidelines, what an ass.
May 15th, 2008 at 10:34 AM
Cursed, Z never got into a rhythm, Boston was determined not to give him that open 18 footer off the pick and roll and it worked, he never got going. I’m not sure you can say he wasn’t creating, role players weren’t hitting shots, which seems to be the theme of this years playoffs, minor guys can only play well at home.
May 15th, 2008 at 10:34 AM
Maybe you cavs fans can help me out with this, why in the hell doesn’t Lebron take PP down on the block? With his size and strength he could destroy PP down low just asking.
May 15th, 2008 at 10:34 AM
While Simmons is spot on in his current analysis of Cassell, I have a hard time giving him credit for it since earlier in the year (as TBL noted) he was saying how great he would fit on this team.
May 15th, 2008 at 10:35 AM
great 2nd half defense by the C’s. The cavs strategy the last few games was to leave rondo alone and see if he would beat them. he did this time, and i would assume he wont do it again? KG played amazing but i knew at the end of this series i would end up fucking hating that guy
May 15th, 2008 at 10:36 AM
cant because KG and Perkins are always down there in the lane.
LBJ is at his best in this series in the mid-post…more options, has PP on an island, and the help D opens up the weak side.
May 15th, 2008 at 10:36 AM
@irish: You’re going to trust Larry Bird’s evaluation of Kobe bryant? If he’s proven anything in his role as President, it’s that he knows jack shit about evaluating talent.
The same goes for MJ, Isiah, Elgin Baylor, Mchale, et. al. Take anything they say about, well, anything with the biggest grain of salt possible, because they just don’t know jackshit.
May 15th, 2008 at 10:37 AM
But Sam is such a veteran full of knowledge and veteran-ness! He was supposed to work GREAT for this team and teach the other less veterany players how to be a veteran. Oh and he is going to be a GREAT coach someday…
/ESPN analysts
May 15th, 2008 at 10:37 AM
@cbh
I watched the Laker game and I was impressed with Kobe not trying to force the action in the last few minutes of the game. If Lamar can keep his head and be this good all the time this team will be tough to beat.
May 15th, 2008 at 10:38 AM
you people should of read TBL’s comments from last nights game post. First half, it was all LEbron mother fucking is on fire and all that garbage. Second half, quiet like a church mouse
rooting for the wrong player TBL. The best in the west
May 15th, 2008 at 10:38 AM
All that may be true about Sam (and I’d actually think a lot of it is), but the Celts were a clear case of “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.” Bringing in a ball-hoggy, shoot first, over the hill, big-headed point guard was only going to possibly cause problems.
May 15th, 2008 at 10:40 AM
Ah, I forgot about the incredible shrinking KG and the Celtics starting Center by default.
May 15th, 2008 at 10:41 AM
@maggs u forgot he won championships in the mid 90s so he bring great championship experience and knows how to get it done!
May 15th, 2008 at 10:46 AM
@nick- its okay that your favorite player is the 2nd best in the league. My favorite player is in the top ten. I dont make stupid arugments everytime someone says that
May 15th, 2008 at 10:46 AM
TBL was rather excited to say the least during the first half of the cavs boston game. Toward the end even with the cavs still in the game he seemed to start looking towards game 6.
May 15th, 2008 at 10:48 AM
Yeah, back when Cassell was just trying to help out the Rockets any way he could. Being a team player, keeping his mouth shut and just playing ball. And it doesn’t hurt when you have teams doubling The Dream and he’s kickin it out to you for wide open 3’s all day. And I agree that Simmons flip-flopped, but Rondo also wasn’t looking very good at the time… he’s improved quite a bit since midseason even.
May 15th, 2008 at 10:49 AM
People say that the NBA is better than ever, but there is nothing great about a predictable playoffs where the home team never loses.
May 15th, 2008 at 10:49 AM
I hope the Cavs win game 6, then fight to the end in game 7. Don’t care who wins, because the winner is going to lose in the next round.
May 15th, 2008 at 10:50 AM
That’s not a stupid argument. Appealing to authority is ridiculous when said authority is clueless about the discussion.
May 15th, 2008 at 10:50 AM
If Lebron posts and KG or Perkins comes to double andy, joe smith,big z and ben should cut to the rim for the dunk.
May 15th, 2008 at 10:52 AM
i just put out a quote said by one of the greatest players ever in the league.
May 15th, 2008 at 10:52 AM
I don’t think Larry Bird is clueless… perhaps running an NBA team isn’t as easy as watching games and writing a blog. I’d probably go with Larry Bird’s assessment over yours.
May 15th, 2008 at 10:52 AM
Can’t make any judgements yet because home teams are holding court.
What would you rather have in game 7… Home Court or LeBron James? I really don’t know the answer. I guess home court because of LeBron’s supporting cast. But damn I’m sacred of that guy in a deciding game.
May 15th, 2008 at 10:52 AM
I have been disappointed in these playoffs, not nearly as good as I expected them to be.
May 15th, 2008 at 10:54 AM
walfredo in the house. Should of known after a Boston win lol
what a game by Rando walfredo? talk about stepping up
May 15th, 2008 at 10:55 AM
The media seemed to LOVE the Cassell ‘get’
May 15th, 2008 at 10:55 AM
@cbh49er: seriously, the first game I watched of this year’s playoffs was that double-OT thriller with the Sun-Spurs, and basically ever since then it’s just been predictable.
May 15th, 2008 at 10:56 AM
oh, the first half was nuts
lbj was off the charts
2nd half boston ran shit
May 15th, 2008 at 10:56 AM
I’m not saying my opinion is right or irish or yours. I’m saying why would you rely on the opinion of people who have proven they suck at giving that opinion?
If you want to cite someone’s opinion, tell me what Bryan Colangelo or RJ Buford or Joe Dumars think.
Being able to play great basketball does not = having the ability to know who else can play great basketball.
The perfect case in point is Joe Morgan. He was probably the best second baseman ever, and he knows basically less than my mom about what makes a good player.
May 15th, 2008 at 10:56 AM
The media loves anything boston/ny
May 15th, 2008 at 10:56 AM
I agree outofbounds. I have definitely zoned out during this second round of the playoffs. It’s been pretty boring.
May 15th, 2008 at 10:58 AM
@outofbounds: The fact that it’s hard to run a team is a cop-out. So does that mean you would rely on George Bush’s opinion on geopolitics because “give him the benefit of the doubt; running a country is hard work.”
I’m not a Bush hater, but I think that’s a relevant comparison, because many on here are.
May 15th, 2008 at 10:58 AM
So if Michael Jordan said Lebron James was the best in the league, you would have no problem with that? right nick P?
May 15th, 2008 at 10:59 AM
Irish – Yeah man. Definitely front-running. Actually ever since the VP resigned I’ve had to do work while at work. Bull-shit.
Not comfortable at all with a 3-2 lead. C’s probably lose in Cle and you never want to go against a LeBron/Kobe-type in a game 7.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:00 AM
@walfredo- thats right. Mo money mo money
May 15th, 2008 at 11:00 AM
Isn’t Larry Bird right though? I mean, how can you watch Kobe and not think he’s the most gifted player on the court every time he laces ‘em up? I don’t even like Kobe, he’s on one of my Pacific Division rivals… but I can still recognize the fact that he’s better than everyone else.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:01 AM
All of this LeBron slob knobbing is ridiculous. Bird, Jordan, Baylor, Magic, couldn’t tell you who the best player in the league is, but Nick P and his trusty calculator can?
May 15th, 2008 at 11:01 AM
the correct answer is Cliff Lee
May 15th, 2008 at 11:02 AM
Yeah Rondo stepped up big. The difference between him and the elite guys though (Paul, Williams, Jameeer lol!) is that he can’t do it all the time and on the road just yet. Game 6 would be a nice time to start!
May 15th, 2008 at 11:02 AM
Regardless of what MJ said, I would say, “I don’t value his opinion one iota.”
This is the same guy who thought Jerry Stackhouse was more valuable than Rip Hamilton, right? The same guy who drafted Kwame Brown? The same guy who gave a contract to Tyronne Lue?
He doesn’t know shit about evaluation. So yeah, he can say Lebron is the best player in the game, or Kobe, or Corey maggette, and I wouldn’t give a damn.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:02 AM
alright Darrell. +1 sir
May 15th, 2008 at 11:03 AM
Spence – What the F is up w/ Indians pitching?!?! Ridiculous! Was Cliff Lee injured in the ALCS last year? If so, thank god!
May 15th, 2008 at 11:03 AM
@Nick: It’s a decent argument, but George Bush hasn’t proven to me that he knows anything about that… he’s never been great at anything that I know of. I’m not a Bush hater either, nor a Bush lover (pun intended) but I’m just saying, it appears as though it isn’t hard to screw up. PLUS that team of Pacers he assembled PRIOR to the Brawl @ The Palace, they were looking like they could possibly go on to win the title that year before Artest went nuts.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:03 AM
@nick p- MJ never said that. It was an example.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:04 AM
I’m not even telling you dicks to trust my opinion. What I’m saying is you should come to your own conclusion, and not rely on “experts” who suck at giving theirs.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:04 AM
@walfredo – dont get me started on Jameer Nelson. im hoping he gets traded lol. Should of kept his mouth shut about that guarantee
May 15th, 2008 at 11:05 AM
I was on baby detail last night so I watched the second half of Jazz/Lakers. Kobe was obviously having his issues. 12 of his points came on the foul line. The back may be worse than he let on but he set up his teammates well and The Lakers played their strongest ball with Kobe on the bench to start the 4th. Jordan Farmar was having a good night. The Jazz fell in to a bad trap. They kept firing bad 3’s. Now I know it’s part of their game but they would go down four and start chucking with Okur, Harpring and AK-47 instead of setting up with Williams and just getting the quick points. It killed the flow they had when they tied it up with about 4 minutes left and then they let up some easy baskets and got called for some chippy fouls. Ball Game. If Kobe plays the way he played last night in Utah…there will be a game 7. He didn’t look healthy.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:05 AM
C’s should fire Doc and hire Larry Legend!!! He can take over for that squirrely curmudgeon Danny Ainge too. Just let Ainge keep drafting.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:05 AM
wait…george bush thinks kobe>lebron? i hate him even more now!
May 15th, 2008 at 11:06 AM
Yesterday Kobe Bryant was the complete opposite of the Kobe of Game 3 and 4. In the last quarter he didn’t attempt one field goal and still was crucial to the Lakers win. How many open shots he gave to Odom (who played great) and to Vujacic (who missed all of them) and how about the crucial rebound with 1:30 to play and the Lakers up by 3… This Laker team is IMO a weaker team than the Jazz team and the only way they are up in the series is because Boozer is playing awful in LA…the referees are helping also…
May 15th, 2008 at 11:06 AM
“@outofbounds: The fact that it’s hard to run a team is a cop-out. So does that mean you would rely on George Bush’s opinion on geopolitics because “give him the benefit of the doubt; running a country is hard work.€
I’m not a Bush hater, but I think that’s a relevant comparison, because many on here are.”
What were Bush’s accomplishments before becoming President that would allow you to rely on his opinions of geopolitics? What were the accomplishments of Bird, Jordan, etc. before entering the front office that would allow you to rely on their opinions as to who is the best player in the league? Being able to put together a team and being able to identify who is the best player in the league are mutually exclusive.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:07 AM
I’m a Bush hater.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:08 AM
Roman – NBA Playoffs is the best time to have a newborn if you live on East Coast because Western Conference games go til 3 am.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:09 AM
I love bush.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:10 AM
atl: Too easy.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:10 AM
@Darrell: Well, the best player in the League is likely the one that helps your team win more games than if they were replaced by anyone else. If they’ve proven they can’t draft/sign/trade for/(trade away) players that win (lose) games for their selective squads, why should I then rely on what they say who the best player in the game is? Their opinion is meaningless.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:11 AM
I’m a proponent of a no-bush world.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:11 AM
Wait a second, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Do you mean to tell Me that Bill Simmons, THE Bill Simmons, wrote something and then a few minutes/days/weeks/months later retracted or contradicted it without acknowledging his previous comment?
I’m stunned. Shocked. I have to sit down here.
Whoo. Slowly getting better.
Someone should start a web-site to keep track of this.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:12 AM
@ ch4os As a laker fan I agree with you. I think without Bynum amd Ariza the Jazz have just as good a team maybe better than the Lakers especially with Kobe not being one hundred percent. The Jazz have a great point guard are solid on defense and have a good inside-outisde balance.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:13 AM
@jesus: You really are omnipresent. That’s one of my favorite sites.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:13 AM
The Jazz seem to go as Boozer goes. Thus far, Boozer hasn’t played at a high level on the road, and they have lost. At home, he has played better. He needs to get it done.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:13 AM
best player in the league is Rasheed Wallace. he just doesn’t do it everynight……just ask Barkley, he’s actually agreeing with me. (sarcasm)
May 15th, 2008 at 11:15 AM
I hate watching the Jazz… why don’t they go to Boozer more? It seems like something they would do, since he’s an All-Star and all. Just a thought.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:15 AM
@sparty: Exactly. How does Barkley have any credibility after that? He’s also been on the Nets bandwagon for the last 3 years, when it’s obvious that team was flawed as hell and would never win anything.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:16 AM
lee was injured and fucked up in the head…he’s ok now.
i wouldve liked some of this pitching in games 5, 6 and 7 if you catch my drift.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:19 AM
I picked up both Cliff Lee and Edinson Volquez off the free-agents list a couple weeks into the season in my fantasy league… GM of the Year anyone?
May 15th, 2008 at 11:21 AM
lee is this year’s Fausto Carmona…hey, wait, they both pitch for the Tribe.
/spencey is happy
//dont give 2 shits that this is a basketball post…you think i wanna talk about Mike Brown fucking up yet another series of halftime adjustments?
May 15th, 2008 at 11:21 AM
I know this is off topic but why is Candace Parker engaged to Shelden Williams. She is actually cute while he looks like a fucking monster.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:24 AM
Lee also has managed to avoid giving up the long ball this year.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:24 AM
“@Darrell: Well, the best player in the League is likely the one that helps your team win more games than if they were replaced by anyone else. If they’ve proven they can’t draft/sign/trade for/(trade away) players that win (lose) games for their selective squads, why should I then rely on what they say who the best player in the game is? Their opinion is meaningless.” You may have a point. You switch Kobe with LeBron on the Cleveland Cavaliers with a defensive coach like Brown and they win 60 games.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:24 AM
Gawd you guys…you are making me agree with Nick. Ugh. He is 100% correct on this. Being a great player has zero to do with being a good GM. Just looking at our local team here with the Pistons and Lions can give a few good examples. Joe Dumars was a great player, but Isiah was one of the greatest Pistons ever. Joe D is worlds better than Zeek as a GM. Matt Millen was a great player with multiple Super Bowls, but he cannot evaluate the correct end of a paper bag.
Bird’s opinion may be correct…and I happen to agree with it…but just cause Bird said it does not make it so.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:24 AM
@jb- she must like Duke
May 15th, 2008 at 11:25 AM
@Sean John – yes, I love easy bush too.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:25 AM
Enough with the refs helping the Lakers crap, the Lakers are the better team.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:25 AM
@jb: that’s easy. she has a fetish for dinosaurs.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:26 AM
and the shortball too…0.64 ERA.
Cliff Lee > Dwight Howard, Kobe and LeBron combined
May 15th, 2008 at 11:27 AM
@jb49ers, Ariza returned to practice on Tuesday, but even with him i don’t see how this Laker team is better than the Jazz.
And BTW the little brother of Pau Gasol can be a bust or a good player. At least in Spain he has done a lot better than his older brother ever did… and he led his shitty team to the final of the ULEB Cup… this posts are going “better” by the day…
May 15th, 2008 at 11:28 AM
It’s time for the obligatory Shelden Williams link!!
May 15th, 2008 at 11:28 AM
lol @ atl. the forehead is dead on
May 15th, 2008 at 11:29 AM
i wonder if cliff lees mom will come out of the stands and tackle someone if they hit a HR off of her son…
lebron’s mom> cliff lee’s mom
May 15th, 2008 at 11:30 AM
You just blew my mind.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:31 AM
In other news: The Lakers are going to either win or lose.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:31 AM
@ch40s- when was this post bad?
May 15th, 2008 at 11:32 AM
@ ch40s I’m not saying with just Ariza, I said with Ariza and Bynum.
Damn ATL thats one scary looking dude.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:34 AM
What I want to know is, all I keep hearing about is ‘Imagine the Lakers with Bynum’. Why? He’s had a quarter of a good year since he’s been in the league, and everyone acts like if he came back, the Lakers would be unbeatable. Why all of a sudden (this year) does it seem like everyone is in love with him?
May 15th, 2008 at 11:36 AM
Because he played like a monster in that quarter season, and even if he doesn’t start, he’d the sickest upgrade of Turiaf, V-Rad, and Mgengba.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:36 AM
@ Chelsea Chris,
so what you’re saying is you have to be a good GM in order to recognize or have a valid opinion on who is the best player in the league? There is a difference between recognizing greatness as it appears in front of you, and having the gift to be more right than wrong on speculating about how someone can play in the league or for your team when it comes to the draft or trades. For some reason you guys want to mix the two.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:39 AM
@Darrell: One does lead to the other. Essentially, the burden of proof is on you. Why would he be good at evaluating talent in this one particular instance (picking the best) when some of these guys haven’t proven they can determine who’s “good versus terrible.”
May 15th, 2008 at 11:40 AM
Mgengba from Kongo is the man
i agree with slick nick p that Bynum had a great first quarter of the season. Would the Lakers pulled that trade if Bynum was healthy? i dont think they would of. But with GAsol, Bynum, and Odom in the frontcourt next year, the sky is the limit with that team
May 15th, 2008 at 11:40 AM
Nick P. do you know for a fact that he can be good or a bust until you really see him play? That’s my point, he can be good or bad and only then you can evaluate the trade. Unless you are a medium and can guess the future i don’t see how you can crucify Chris Wallace now… If you can’t understand that, i have to say that doesn’t surprise me one bit…
May 15th, 2008 at 11:40 AM
I’m not saying Bynum is Dwight Howard, but he gives the Lakers a physical presence on the interior. And like Nick said he played like a monster in that quarter season.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:41 AM
no no jb. please no comparisons to Dwight Howard with Bynum lol. that is not even close if he was healthy
May 15th, 2008 at 11:42 AM
@CH4: Also, the Cavs might win tomorrow. Or they might lose. It might rain tomorrow, also. Then again, might not.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:42 AM
@SpartanFan, everybody is love with Bynum because with him on the court the Lakers defense is above average. He is a dominant presence, a shot blocker and guards have to settle to mid range jumpers instead of layups. And in the offensive side he also showed flashes that he can score 20 points per game…
May 15th, 2008 at 11:43 AM
By the way for all you East Coasters. The game is in LA, of course its going to start at 1030 your time. You want to start the game at 630PST or 530? Thats ridiculous. There won’t be anyone in the arena.
As for Kobe, he looked fine to me. I think the reasons everyone thinks his back is acting up is because he didn’t take 17-20 shots. He did shoot 17 FTs, so he was going to to the basket. I thought the game he played last night was the game he should have played in OT in Utah. If Kobe gets his 25-30 on 10-12 shots the Lakers are unbeatable.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:44 AM
Bynum played well. A monster? Really? Come on.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:45 AM
west coast blows.
east coast is better than sex and almost as good as eating watermelon.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:46 AM
I just thought it was funny that last year people seemed to say ‘trade Bynum for Jason Kidd’, and this year they love him.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:46 AM
Nick P. of course it might rain or not. That’s why it makes no sense anyone writing about the rain tomorrow when you don’t know yet if it’s going to rain or not. It’s like trying to guess if you are going to make a “kobe sucks” comment on a fishing post or a manicure post. Who knows?
May 15th, 2008 at 11:47 AM
rs27 – Hey I’m happy with the late start times as I’m up all night with my newborn. That said, David Stern needs to cater to us East Coasters!! You west coasters get good weather and nice quality of life! We get Prime-time TV slots, end of story!!
May 15th, 2008 at 11:47 AM
I watched the whole game. Yes he played great but it was obvious he wasn’t 100%.I do agree that he should have played the overtime Sunday like he played the 4th quarter last night.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:48 AM
Oh and 2Pac can’t hold a candle to Biggie, even though Pac was originally from East Coast
May 15th, 2008 at 11:49 AM
After watching Kidd with Dallas Im glad that Mitch didn’t make that trade.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:50 AM
@CH4: In the first place, I was trying to make a joke. You said “He might be bust or a good player.” You said it as if that sentence actually meant something, and I thought that was funny. I think SeanJean picked up on it and thought it was funny also.
This much I do know. The NBA Finals will be won by an East Team.
/Or a West Team
May 15th, 2008 at 12:00 PM
2Pac was the shit. Biggie was cool too.
A home team will win the nba finals.
May 15th, 2008 at 12:01 PM
Do or Die > Mainstream “Pop” rappers like Jay Z and Kanye
May 15th, 2008 at 12:05 PM
“@Darrell: One does lead to the other. Essentially, the burden of proof is on you.” It’s a fake burden. For one thing, it takes more to putting together a team than knowing who’s talented and who isn’t. It’s also about having the ability to forecast whether or not that talent will mesh as well as being able to hire the right coach to steer that talent along. The Knicks have talent for example, but their talent is redundant and doesn’t mesh. You have to know how to play with contracts and the salary cap which means you have to know when to hold on to or let go of a player. You can take the best scout in the world and he could be a lousy GM, just as you could take the greatest player in a sport and he could be a lousy GM. It doesn’t diminish the scout’s ability to identify talent and it definitely doesn’t diminish a great player’s ability to identify greatness.
May 15th, 2008 at 12:05 PM
Gotta give Kanye his props now cuz we all know his Christ Complex will lead him to a mental institution before his 45th birthday. And HOV has managed just fine in keepin it real while making serious money. He’s no more mainstream than Biggie and Pac, just smarter. Except he should drop Beyonce like Asante Samuel drops Super-Bowl clinching interceptions.
May 15th, 2008 at 12:07 PM
Why should HOV drop Beyonce?
May 15th, 2008 at 12:08 PM
That’s news to me. I’ll give you David Lee. That’s it. Balkman’s an energy guy.
May 15th, 2008 at 12:09 PM
cursed, have you been po’ pimpin lately or what?
May 15th, 2008 at 12:11 PM
2Pac was alright. Biggie was like that Jay-Z from 95-05 was a beast and could see anyone of those 2 he just happens to still be living. Reasonable Doubt, Roc La Familia, The Blueprint were classics. The Black Album is underrated. Rakim is the greatest ever
May 15th, 2008 at 12:12 PM
“Why should HOV drop Beyonce?”
Because he FREAKING JAY-Z that’s why! She’s used goods. Rihanna and 12,000 others are just looming on the horizon, ready. If Brady puts a ring on Gisele’s finger I’ll say the same thing.
May 15th, 2008 at 12:16 PM
Clown, everyday.. and even when I’m sick of that one, I’m “Still Po Pimpin.” “Kill or be Killed” is probably my favorite, so smoothe. “Bustin Back” is an incrdible Bone Thugs diss. “6 million ways to die is a classic as well” – too bad Belo zero is in jail!
May 15th, 2008 at 12:18 PM
Darrell, just never liked east coast beats, just way too vanilla and monotonous. Midwest scene always had better beats and hooks (IMO).
May 15th, 2008 at 12:18 PM
@cursed: I pwn you on “name that tune.”
May 15th, 2008 at 12:21 PM
Ah when hip-hop was straight fun. Fife was not the best ever but my all-time fave. Tribe, De La, Beasties… that’s some shit right there…
May 15th, 2008 at 12:23 PM
@cursed I liked “nobody’s home” “dead or alive” pretty much the whole “headz or tailz” album.
May 15th, 2008 at 12:24 PM
so walfredo you would drop Beyonce?
May 15th, 2008 at 12:25 PM
i have no idea what the hell ya’ll are talkin about…
Tribe got a run…GAME OVER. scoreless inning streak is extended to 44 1/3.
May 15th, 2008 at 12:27 PM
po pimpin is a classic song. Who likes Do or die here? cursed? i would of never guessed that
May 15th, 2008 at 12:27 PM
Heads or Tails is a classic… And for those that think I’m anti Bone just because they’re Clevelanders – I loved Bone before Art of War, that was the beginning of the end. They became vocalists, they were much better when they were rapping (and talking about murdering selling dope – which is true for all of us)
May 15th, 2008 at 12:29 PM
Cursed so what you are saying is
We are not aginst rap We are not against rappers but we are against those thugs.
May 15th, 2008 at 12:30 PM
jb – No I wouldn’t but if I were Jay-Z I absolutely would. Variety is the spice of life. No matter how hot they are, you always want to try somehting different. Jay-Z can try any flavor he wants, any time of day. Like I said, HOV should pull an Asante Samuel and drop that shit.
May 15th, 2008 at 12:35 PM
jb49ers: thuggish ruggish! For the love of money was terrific as well. I think I knew every word to every song on E 1999 (and let me tell you, nothing like a white boy rapping to his cassette player waiting for the school bus to go to a suburban school).
May 15th, 2008 at 12:36 PM
I think he’s had alot of variety in his life dude been rapping since the early 90’s. HOV is getting old now yes he can prob still pull quality tail but I think he just ready to settle down listen to kingdom come.
May 15th, 2008 at 12:38 PM
Game 7 in the Lakers series is tentatively scheduled for 11:11 on the East Coast Monday night.. Are you kidding me??
May 15th, 2008 at 12:40 PM
i cant get that For the love of money song out of my head now. thanks a lot cursed
May 15th, 2008 at 12:42 PM
Irish check this out
May 15th, 2008 at 12:44 PM
Sir Charles being sued by the Wynn casino in Vegas
May 15th, 2008 at 12:45 PM
lol great jb. stuck all day
May 15th, 2008 at 12:46 PM
No prob Irish.
May 15th, 2008 at 12:48 PM
Walfredo- I understand that, but the West Coast does have the number 2 TV market so I’m pretty sure the NBA doesn’t want to piss them off.
If you’re a sports fan there is no better place to live than the West Coast. There just isn’t.
May 15th, 2008 at 12:49 PM
Krayzie Bone was unreal.. the best of the bone boys
May 15th, 2008 at 12:55 PM
I always considered this guy to be the best of the bone boys.
May 15th, 2008 at 12:56 PM
who is that guy nick? boner from that one show?
May 15th, 2008 at 12:56 PM
Yep
May 15th, 2008 at 12:57 PM
Check out the 1:35 mark… http://youtube.com/watch?v=jV1TSHAgrIE&feature=related
May 15th, 2008 at 12:58 PM
lol thats cursed singing at the concert
May 15th, 2008 at 1:03 PM
HAHAH
May 15th, 2008 at 1:06 PM
No way cursed, bizzy’s the best of them. that voice will make thugz cry
May 15th, 2008 at 1:09 PM
Do you think Twista even acknowledges Do or Die anymore? By the way, Twista’s verse in Smoked out with 3-6 Mafia is his best verse ever.
May 15th, 2008 at 1:13 PM
Hell yeah, Twista doesn’t forget where he came from! Everytime Do or Die wash his car, he slips them an extra fiver.
May 15th, 2008 at 2:04 PM
“If you’re a sports fan there is no better place to live than the West Coast. There just isn’t.”
Unless of course you’re a football fan in LA. Or you want to see a baseball game with fans that live and die with every pitch. Or you want to hang out with people who tell it how it is to your face instead of talkin smack behind your back.
Don’t get me wrong though, definitely better weather and overall quality of life out west.