Guess Elton Brand’s Handshake Deal with Baron Davis Meant Nothing: He’s Going to Philly
ESPN, Media Gossip/Musings, NBA July 9th. 2008, 10:22amSaw this clip on Sportscenter last night and between the slick hair and the authoritative confidence, Ric Bucher sold us on Elton Brand staying a Clipper. And then one of the top power forwards in the NBA accepted a 5-year, $82 million offer from the 76ers. Did the Paper Clips get the shaft? Well if the LA Times is right, and David “Bird of Prey” Falk (fist-bump to Kornheiser) stopped returning Donald Sterling’s calls, yes. Then we can understand the venom in the comments section here. Quick question: How much more money will the ruthless Falk walk away with after Brand selected the 76ers deal over that of the Clippers?
A week ago, the Clippers were the big free-agent winners, and poised for 50 wins. Back the lottery, kids. (Small, perhaps insignificant note on Brand: For as good as a player he is, excluding last year’s 8-game season … one playoff appearance in eight years?) If the Other Los Angeles Team is able to pry Josh Smith away from the Hawks, perhaps we’ll listen to playoff predictions, but Baron Davis, Al Thornton and Chris Kaman won’t cut it in the West.
Now, to the orgasmic feeling Philadelphia: For the first time since Iverson led them to the Finals, the 76ers are a legit contender in the East. Andre Miller’s always been an underrated PG, Iggy is one of the most exciting players in the league, and the Brand-Dalembert pairing up front will be solid on the scoring-rebounding-shot blocking front. There are some issues at shooting guard, with Willie Green and Louis Williams seeming (to us) more like reserves than starters at this stage (though Williams, just 21, would be our choice as the starter).
Random look at the East, which is leaps and bounds better than last year:
1. Celtics – Nice draft, but they’re a year older, and a year less hungry.
2. Cavaliers – If they get Posey, they might be our pick to emerge from the East.
3. Pistons – Will definitely change if Dumars moves one of the starters.
4. 76ers – Is Louis Williams the key to this team’s shot at the Finals?
5. Raptors – Bosh and O’Neal are awesome, but injury concerns abound.
6. Magic – Haven’t really improved at all.
7. Heat – Just a hunch. Love the Beasley-Wade-Matrix trio.
8. Wizards – If JaVale McGee can contribute, they’ll go higher.
9. Hawks - If they keep Smith. Lose him, and we’ll take a chance on Charlotte, though we hated its draft. We’d even take the Bucks here over the Bulls.
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July 9th, 2008 at 10:25 AM
Here we go…
James Posey will never be the difference between a team making and missing the Finals.
July 9th, 2008 at 10:26 AM
Your numbering system is messed up, you have three twice.
Hahahha, people still want to bet me on the Clippers having more wins than the Wizards next season? I told you all, they are the Clippers, things won’t work out for them, I am a genius.
Oh, and JaVale Walker won’t be contributing jack to the Wizards, it is more important that Nick Young step up.
July 9th, 2008 at 10:27 AM
TBL what is this? Did Jeff Van Gundy write this post
76ers are now better than the Magic? get the fuck outta here
and you want to put Cleveland that high? they havent improved at all and Posey isnt going there
Orlando is still in the top 3 in the east
July 9th, 2008 at 10:27 AM
Ha. True.
And with the big disclaimer of if they stay healthy …. Miami will be a Top 4 seed.
July 9th, 2008 at 10:27 AM
So Brand stays throw years of mis management yet he is the bad guy? And williams is a key because he is the only one who can shoot on that team from the outside.
July 9th, 2008 at 10:28 AM
nine team playoff? i love it!
July 9th, 2008 at 10:28 AM
The Raptors and the Magic will both be better than the 76ers.
What’s the over/under on number of games Brand plays next year? Coming off the injury I’m putting it at 50
July 9th, 2008 at 10:29 AM
Nice catch moleman. that’s funny. Two #3’s up there.
July 9th, 2008 at 10:30 AM
Clown, still want to bet?
July 9th, 2008 at 10:30 AM
I do not view this as a Carlos Boozer type situation. Brand just left a crazy ass organization. He was smarter about his Clipper days than most, opting not to leave a big pile of negative press clippings. Stay Classy, San Diego.
Of course, the Sixers are now better than the Magic!
July 9th, 2008 at 10:30 AM
Posey would be a much better fit on the Celtics or even the Heat. He’s a spot starter who can provide good defense and the occasion jump shot.
He would be exposed and negated on the Cavs.
July 9th, 2008 at 10:30 AM
looks like brand pulled a boozer on the clips…yet, he wont get grilled for it.
oh wait, he opted out on his own and didn’t act like a little bitch and complained until the team did him a favor, and then promptly stabbed saidd team in the back.
boozer is a douchebag supreme
July 9th, 2008 at 10:31 AM
shoddy #ing fixed
July 9th, 2008 at 10:32 AM
No thanks, cbh. Now that Brand is gone, OKC > Clip Show
July 9th, 2008 at 10:33 AM
CRM did you see Wally on the Cavs in the playoffs? As you said Posey can provide good defense and a jump shot which would be a large step up.
July 9th, 2008 at 10:34 AM
flip the magic with the 6ers
July 9th, 2008 at 10:35 AM
Poor Beasley, but check out Chalmers.
July 9th, 2008 at 10:36 AM
@SM – Yeah, but I guarantee not a single team in the East says “Holy shit! The Cavs got Posey!?” LeBron need a Scottie Pippen, not a Ron Harper.
July 9th, 2008 at 10:37 AM
ESPN said the Clippers are going after Josh Smith and Emeka Okafor. What are the chances of them getting even one of those guys?
July 9th, 2008 at 10:37 AM
So the Cavs defense would get even stronger with Posey. but still no scoring option to help LeBron.
July 9th, 2008 at 10:38 AM
Oh but Baron Davis is so amazing, shouldn’t he be able to make them better still? No, because he isn’t that amazing.
July 9th, 2008 at 10:38 AM
i am starting to think that Joe D isn’t going to get a deal done. only lateral moves have been offered to him. It will be a shocker if he does pull off a big deal.
July 9th, 2008 at 10:39 AM
LeBron needs a Devin Harris, or a Vince Carter, or a Jay-Z, or a CDR, or a Brook Lopez…
July 9th, 2008 at 10:41 AM
@clown- dont forget Josh Boone and Sean Williams
July 9th, 2008 at 10:41 AM
They Cavs went to game 7 against Boston (as TBL likes, PJ F’n Brown) and were in the finals the year before. They are a good team and posey would be very helpful. I would say the celtics do not win this year is Wally was there instead of Posey.
Orlando has no ball handlers. Nelson then who? Arroyo, Dooling and Evans are all free agents. They sign Pietrus…
July 9th, 2008 at 10:41 AM
oh wow, thats hysterical.
July 9th, 2008 at 10:43 AM
Orlando has no ball handlers. Nelson then who? Arroyo, Dooling and Evans are all free agents. They sign Pietrus…
Orlando has the most offensively productive front line in the NBA. Name one front line who put up better numbers. Yeah Orlando lacks a backup PG. trading JJ redick for one is the goal after this Pietrus signing
July 9th, 2008 at 10:43 AM
The Great Lie!
July 9th, 2008 at 10:51 AM
ESPN reports are increasingly wrong this year, starting to wonder if this whole Favre this is hogwash.
July 9th, 2008 at 10:55 AM
Brand is one of those classic numbers guys. You never see him play, you only see the 20-10 on the box score. He gets soft points and doesn’t have any killer instinct. Gets his numbers but never gets wins. He’s a less talented less intense KG.
Did James Posey sleep with your sister CRM?
July 9th, 2008 at 10:58 AM
Elton Brand puts up 20 and 10 because he only plays 40-50 games. I want to see his stats from one full year
Chris Bosh will tear Brand apart. KG will tear Brand apart. Rashard big money Lewis will drain threes on him all day
Philly needs Pat Croce
July 9th, 2008 at 11:01 AM
Coop, two years ago in the playoffs against the suns Brand was a monster. Wait, maybe that’s a bad example.
July 9th, 2008 at 11:01 AM
damn. I need to take back my Brand comment. He put up 20 and 10 his rookie year in a complete season.
July 9th, 2008 at 11:01 AM
Agreed cbh, this years Wiz will need Young to step up and Haywood to somehow play like he did last year. Plus Blatche needs to break out at some point.
July 9th, 2008 at 11:03 AM
um
04/05 – 81gp 20/9
05/06 – 79gp 24/10
06/07 – 80gp 20/9
July 9th, 2008 at 11:04 AM
So Elton Brand = Shareef Abdur-Rahim?
July 9th, 2008 at 11:04 AM
Brand probably did the Clips a favor anyway. He’s a second-tier player coming off a serious injury, on the downside of his career, with a HUGE long-term contract. I doubt he’ll be that productive in two years when he’s weighing them down nearly $20 mil a year
July 9th, 2008 at 11:05 AM
So Elton Brand = Shareef Abdur-Rahim?
Damn, he’s a terrorist too?
July 9th, 2008 at 11:05 AM
Also, he’ll be 32.
July 9th, 2008 at 11:05 AM
Ill, Blatche needs to learn how to stay out of trouble too.
July 9th, 2008 at 11:05 AM
@mole- i dont know what i was thinking.
July 9th, 2008 at 11:08 AM
Irish, it’s alright, Brand went to Duke, thats reason enough to hate on him.
July 9th, 2008 at 11:09 AM
CBH- but if Brand hated Duke, does that cancel each other out?
July 9th, 2008 at 11:09 AM
Did he really Ruck?
July 9th, 2008 at 11:10 AM
Anyone seen the money figures on this? Was it 82 mil from the Clips and 76ers?……that is all I am seeing…..
July 9th, 2008 at 11:10 AM
Bringing in Brand almost makes me forget some of the Sixers great big men, like Bob Thorton, Kurt Nimphius and Mike Gminski.
July 9th, 2008 at 11:10 AM
Josh Smith is staying with the Hawks. Book it. So is Josh Childress. They’re restricted, and the Hawks have maintained, since the end of the season, that they’ll match any offer either of them get.
July 9th, 2008 at 11:11 AM
I just found this recently actually:
http://sportsbybrooks.com/elton-brand-beat-down-silver-spooned-duke-alum-in-leaving-durham-early-for-nba-13059
July 9th, 2008 at 11:12 AM
That’s a classic, love Elton for that one.
July 9th, 2008 at 11:13 AM
brand’s sentiments about duke were dead on, pretty accurate for UNC as well. as far as socioeconomic status the difference between those crowds and the players is ridiculous.
that 99 team was sick though, shame william avery couldnt fucking handle the ball on the last posession. cocksucker
July 9th, 2008 at 11:14 AM
@spidey- $82 mill/ 5 years. Maggette is signing for more money
July 9th, 2008 at 11:17 AM
that draft class from duke was weird
brand left because he didnt like the school (needed money too i guess)
maggette left or was forced to leave because he was a walking recruiting violation
avery left because … who knows, but he would have lost his job to williams anyways
July 9th, 2008 at 11:18 AM
i KNOW for a fact, personal experience, that elton brand is one of the classiest people in the world, not just the nba. he has never forgotten where he came from or who knew him back when. philly just got themselves a great person and ballplayer. wish the knicks had a shot at him.
July 9th, 2008 at 11:21 AM
Does Brand have any kids? Will he know qualify as an imaginary, hard-working daddy who sends his kids to school while “real” people struggle?
July 9th, 2008 at 11:28 AM
@Irish….were the Clips offering less….or the same?
July 9th, 2008 at 11:30 AM
@spidey- that i dont know
July 9th, 2008 at 11:31 AM
Brand in his career, 50.5% shooter from the floor, 2.1 blocks per game.
Seasons where Shareef did better than that in his “similar to Brand” career: One.
Career field goal percentage: 47.2% (fucking terrible for a PF)
But yeah, same player.
July 9th, 2008 at 11:32 AM
Sarcasm, Nick. Sarcasm. Take a chill pill buddy and relax.
July 9th, 2008 at 11:32 AM
Classy enough to use horrible grammar to call a girl a spoiled yuppie. I’m not trying to be a dick, he does seem like a good guy, but give me a break. I love it when big time athletes get all “you don’t know what its like man” on people. Yes, I don’t know what its like to go to college for free, I had to pay for it. Yes, I don’t know what its like to not have to take tests, I had to study. Yes, I don’t know how it feels to get an 80 mil contract. Rough way to live.
July 9th, 2008 at 11:32 AM
Don’t know where this puts the Sixers with respect to the rest of the conference, but I do know it plugs a ginormous hole in their lineup. It also takes pressure off of Iguodala to be “the man”.
If Brand is soft, as someone mentioned earlier, he’ll be found out immediately and get run out of Philly on a rail. I’ve never read anything about him being a soft player, just injury prone, so I’m not real worried.
The only real, rather obvious weakness left for Philly is the Sixers’ general lack of a consistent jump shooting threat. For that, the Sixers are probably going to have to depend on Iguodala and Williams’ offseason improvement in that area.
July 9th, 2008 at 11:34 AM
Hey Coop, I don’t think he was talking to you. I think he was talking to the “Yuppies,” who do know how to go to college for free, etc.
July 9th, 2008 at 11:35 AM
‘S all good, Mike. Didn’t even realize you said it.
Ran through the comments pretty fast. F’ing work.
July 9th, 2008 at 11:35 AM
So Elton Brand’s kid will now be a yuppie?
July 9th, 2008 at 11:35 AM
Philly better count on AI2 to be the man. Brand’s a good second guy to have and good locker room leader, but AI2 is the franchise guy for the Sixers
July 9th, 2008 at 11:37 AM
since when does yuppies mean college kids though.
July 9th, 2008 at 11:37 AM
Mike, most definitely. Hate on them as much as you want
July 9th, 2008 at 11:39 AM
Ruck, I’m sure there are plenty of spoiled kids at Duke, but there are also plenty of kids who are taking on loads of debt and working 30 hours a week while in school. But of course a player on the basketball team would never associate with those hard working kids, I mean come on, I play basketball for Duke.
July 9th, 2008 at 11:40 AM
No, he’s 29.
Can’t find the article now, but Marc Stein wrote that the lineup will be Dalembert, Brand, Thad Young, AI2, Dre Miller with Lou Williams, Jason Smith and Reggie Evans off the bench. Not a terrible lineup, but one that is woefully poor at shooting the 3 ball. Teams will just pack the paint against them and dare them to shoot.
And the Magic have improved with the Pietrus signing. He is what they needed/what SVG wants at the 2.
July 9th, 2008 at 11:40 AM
TBL, wouldn’t the Magic be #4 due to all division winners getting a top 4 seed?
July 9th, 2008 at 11:41 AM
Coop — Completely understand your point, but did you read what he was responding to? It was complete elitist bullshit.
July 9th, 2008 at 11:43 AM
Check the SbB post tho, the girl who sent it deserved it, man. And this is coming from a Tar Heel:
/You have not only insulted the current students who are putting in four years at a school they love, but also the thousands of alumni who have realized the value of a Duke education and what an honor and privilege it was to be there for four years.
You will not be considered part of the Duke family, in my mind as well as many others. You have by no means proved yourself worthy of that title./
What a bitch. This just made him my favorite Dook player.
July 9th, 2008 at 11:43 AM
I don’t argue it was ridiculous and pretentious, but if you’re going to sink to that level and respond with your holier than thou crap then it opens you up to criticism.
July 9th, 2008 at 11:43 AM
@Rocket — I meant in the later years of his contract when he’s already broken down and carrying that huge contract
July 9th, 2008 at 11:44 AM
To clarify: the letter obviously didn’t come from a Tar Heel, the admiration does (from me).
*Bangs head on desk*
July 9th, 2008 at 11:45 AM
Fair enough coop, go where you want with it but I don’t think his reply stooped to her level.
July 9th, 2008 at 11:46 AM
Also Coop, I disagree with your point about players not knowing hard work. Yeah, the scholarship is free education, but I’d consider the commitment to play at that level a job. Look at all the traveling and pressure that comes with it.
July 9th, 2008 at 11:46 AM
god DAMNIT that never ceases to be funny and original
elton brand is not a baird man
July 9th, 2008 at 11:49 AM
Enjoy Baron Davis Clipper’s fans… I’m sure he’ll be playing all 82 games to fight for the 10th seed next year.
- Warriors Fans
July 9th, 2008 at 11:50 AM
I hope Baron backs out of the Clippers deal. What’s the point now?
July 9th, 2008 at 11:50 AM
@ Ruck: I see what your saying now. My mistake. To play devil’s advocate for a second, don’t you think though that he could have a KG/’Sheed type impact, the cagy low post vet who needs his title type of thing (more KG, but people loved Sheed much more after he got his title than before). I’m just saying that in the East, the only 2 “Bigs” he’d have to worry about in 2-3-4 years are Dwight Howard and Chris Bosh. Tito O’Neal doesn’t worry me and Beasley we have to wait and see what type of player he turns into (post vs outside; not if he will be good). Other than that, who is a threat in the low post in the East?
July 9th, 2008 at 11:51 AM
I don’t know why you guys are down on Brand at all. He’s a fucking monster.
July 9th, 2008 at 11:52 AM
As one of the lone Orlando fans on this board i feel i have to defend our alleged #6 position in the East. #6?
At first look i’m assuming the rankings are not for playoff seeding because nobody from the Southeast division is in the #3 hole for winning the division.
Secondly, why do the Magic drop 3 spots? They just recently acquired an underrated Mickael Pietrus from the warriors who will most likely step right in to the starting SG position. We also got SG Courtney Lee (Western Kentucky) in the first round. We are not going to lose anyone of great signifigance through free agency.
Does Jermaine O’neal really help out Toronto so much so that they would have beaten us in a rematch of our first round playoff series? I think not. 76ers at 4? laughable. Elton Brand can’t handle Dwight.
Everyone is thinking the Magic can only go down after what was a great season, but there is no legitimate reason for this claim, other than the fact that 2 mediocre teams added a guy that has made the playoffs once (Brand) and another that is an overpaid injury prone goon (O’Neal).
July 9th, 2008 at 11:56 AM
@jking3: Some issues with the Magic are that they’re still weak down low defensively. Howard is great, but Rashard at 4 doesn’t work on defense. Hedo had a career year at 28/29. When guys have career years that late (8th season), it’s generally a fluke. Will he do it again? And your point guard is still terrible.
July 9th, 2008 at 12:02 PM
Rocket, I see your point. I think he’s a great pick up now but the team is still young so it doesn’t put them over the top by any means unless someone grows up in a hurry. In a year or two, I think his production begins to dip while the rest of the guys start emerging.
That is assuming that at his age, a serious injury like that hasn’t slowed Brand down. He’s a 20-10 guy his entire career without ever straying too far up or down, but will he be able to keep that up when he enters his 30s? He’s not quite on par with Sheed or KG, but I think he’ll be a positive influence in terms of chemistry. I just think they overpaid.
July 9th, 2008 at 12:23 PM
Nick: My only gripe is that because the Magic are not on TV a lot, it is hard for people to accurately assess their talent. I don’t want this to seem like i’m questioning your basketball knowledge but Jameer Nelson is not terrible. Jameer was one of our better players in the playoffs this year and i think you will see a more consistent player that takes command of the Offense this year.
I will agree that Rashard is not a true 4. In the East however, you can get away with Rashard playing the 4. As far as Turk goes, i see your concerns. However, i dont think it is a coincidence that SVG comes in his first year and turns Turk’s game around. Turk probably won’t duplicate his 07-08 numbers but they will be close.
1st year under a new coach and Rashard just joined the team. Year 1 was not a mistake.
July 9th, 2008 at 12:38 PM
As one of the lone Orlando fans on this board
where were you this past year?
July 9th, 2008 at 1:59 PM
His name is JaVale McGee.
July 9th, 2008 at 2:18 PM
White Chocolate may be coming to Orlando. Agent said Orlando is at the top of his list. He could fill in the backup PG spot
July 9th, 2008 at 3:07 PM
Where were you this past year?
Is it at all possible that i just started posting on this site?
I dont really care if you are a “regular” or not. Go away.
July 9th, 2008 at 4:29 PM
@jking13- you said you were the lone Magic fan on this site. back of the line for you chump
July 9th, 2008 at 5:08 PM
I know i’m ONE of the lone ones because i read but rarely post. I didn’t say i was THE lone magic fan.
you need to chill
July 9th, 2008 at 7:50 PM
let me just say that there are actually 3 of us magic fans on this board..i just rarely post
irish you do need to calm down and reread the first thing he said
July 10th, 2008 at 10:07 PM
Enough of this bickering. Who is this JaVale Walker I’m hearing so much about?
July 10th, 2008 at 10:17 PM
must have been a cross between JaVale McGee, the Wiz first round pick, and Jimmy Walker from Good Times.