Will Brett Favre Even Help the Bucs?
NFL August 6th. 2008, 9:45am
We’re thinking no. Everyone seems to assume Tampa’s a lock for the services of the retirement-challenged Brett Favre, so for the moment, we’ll view the outlook as such.
Since Tampa’s Super Bowl triumph over Oakland, there have been two Bucs postseason games and in both of losses (to NFC East teams), the offense stalled miserably under the direction of Chris Simms and Jeff Garcia.
A 38-yard-old man can somehow change that? Throwing to fossils like Joey Galloway and Ike Hilliard? That’s a downgrade from Driver and Jennings. Favre better hope Caddy Williams bounces back from a patellar tendon injury that ended his 2007 season after four games, because Earnest Graham can score from in close, but he only had three 100-yard games last year.
On the plus side … Favre’s an upgrade over the motley crew currently in place: Garcia (37), McCown (a capable 2nd stringer), Brian Griese (his better days are behind him; fact: His brother was one of our teachers senior year in high school), Simms (poor kid) and Josh Johnson (no idea). The division remains full of excrement – Carolina’s a mess thanks to punchy Steve Smith, Atlanta’s the worst team in the league, and the Saints are supposed to be improved, but that remains to be seen.
Which is yet another incentive for the Packers to deal with the Jets: If Max Wasserman were to tally the chances of the Packers and Bucs meeting in the playoffs, it might be in the 10-20 percent range. Meeting the Jets in the Super Bowl? Less than one percent. And imagine the Packers getting their hearts broken in January by the face of their franchise for the last two decades. Aaron Rodgers would soil his pants prior to kickoff, that’s for sure.
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August 6th, 2008 at 9:46 am
If the Packers met the Bucs in the playoffs it would be fun for a change to have my team be the beneficiary of the 3-4 backbreaking interceptions
August 6th, 2008 at 9:47 am
this is a fair point.
August 6th, 2008 at 9:47 am
A) the Jets are not out of it..but Gruden’s offense fit’s Favre better
B) will some one please save Chris Simms from this disaster so he can go to a Chicago and play…it’s ridiculous at this point
August 6th, 2008 at 9:48 am
Oh, and I just signed the savebrett petition “Mark Chmura’s Babysitter” if anyone was around here last night and knows what I’m talking about
August 6th, 2008 at 9:48 am
Is it wrong to not even remember that the Raiders were the other team in that super bowl?
August 6th, 2008 at 9:49 am
Yugo Williams will do nothing to help that offense. Nor will Brett Favre. Why is everyone assuming that Favre will be as good as he was last year? Look at the previous two years and tell me which is the “real” Brett Favre.
August 6th, 2008 at 9:50 am
Considering the Bucs have no offensive weapons in their prime and healthy, trading Favre out to Tampa might not be the worst mistake they could do. Given Favre’s tendencies I could see him putting double-digit INT stats out there. And they’d be off the merry-go-round.
Oh and that division isn’t as bad as you think it is…well, Atlanta is. But the Saints can take on any team and Carolina should be back healthier.
August 6th, 2008 at 9:50 am
This post isn’t biased in the least.
Favre makes the Bucs better just like he makes the Jets better. Your post makes it sound like the Bucs are garbage and the Jets just need a QB to be a world beater, that isn’t the case at all.
August 6th, 2008 at 9:50 am
Yep. Still don’t care about this story.
August 6th, 2008 at 9:52 am
was rich gannon on roids for 2-3 years?
are there any 3 team deals in the nfl .. could farve spin a wicked move and end up in minne/chi?
August 6th, 2008 at 9:52 am
I don’t understand why a team like TB or the Jets would consider getting Favre. Does he make them better? Absolutely. Does he make them a SB contender? I don’t think so. So essentially they’re going to postpone the development of their QB of the future in order to get knocked out early in the playoffs?
August 6th, 2008 at 9:53 am
I heard Brett Favre once threw a football completely out of the stadium with both hands tied behind his back, and Sterling Sharpe caught it despite not knowing it was coming.
How could Tampa NOT trade for somebody like that?
August 6th, 2008 at 9:53 am
Butch: What’re you looking at, friend?
Vincent Vega: I ain’t your friend, palooka.
Butch: What did you say?
Vincent Vega: I think you heard me just fine, punchy.
/ that’s how the Punchy Steve Smith fight went down.
August 6th, 2008 at 9:53 am
St. Bear, who is Tampa’s QB of the future?
August 6th, 2008 at 9:53 am
Yep. Still don’t care about this story.
I only care in that it be over soon. We need more coverage of “Patriots 2008: Anyone Remind Us Again and we’ll kill ALL of you!”
August 6th, 2008 at 9:53 am
St. Bear: Ticket sales. Merchandise. Money.
August 6th, 2008 at 9:54 am
Any gamers out there that can tell me how to use the rosters on NCAA 09? I have downloaded them, now what? I was using by buddies hard-drive while he was on vacation, now I am screwed.
August 6th, 2008 at 9:55 am
No but Bill Romanowski has been since birth Herdatious.
August 6th, 2008 at 9:55 am
Can’t help you there Cool Rick, but I really like NCAA 09, the freeze the kicker thing fucked me though, I have only had it done to me once but it was ridiculous how hard they made it.
August 6th, 2008 at 9:56 am
cbh: that’s part of the problem, I know. But in TB’s case, Favre would just push all the other QBs down the depth chart. I don’t know who their QB of the future is, but it’s not Favre, and getting him won’t get them any closer to making a decision.
August 6th, 2008 at 9:57 am
It probably wouldn’t make the Bucs a whole better, but it’s going to generate interest in the team and put butts in the seats. Plus, you can’t really blame them for trying it. I doubt they are going to give up much to get him, and can you imagine the alternative…Gruden saying “Na, we’re fine, we have Garcia, Brett’s not worth a fourth-rounder”.
August 6th, 2008 at 9:57 am
cb4 if you are online and have Gold you can type in EAroster com, or FAIRDALE KINGS and get the rosters, I just dont know how to activate them
August 6th, 2008 at 9:57 am
Merchandising? Merchandising we have Merchandising…Get Brett Farve the Lunch Box…Brett Favre the Breakfast Cereal…Brett Favre..THE FLAME THROWER…the kids love this one
August 6th, 2008 at 9:57 am
Nice pull Triston.
And yes, Galloway is old but that dude can still get deep on just about anyone
August 6th, 2008 at 9:57 am
@RWH: You really think Chris Simms is any good? People have been blowing this kid since he was in high school, but he’s really accomplished nothing compared to his hype. If he had anything at all, don’t you think he could take the job from Garcia outright?
August 6th, 2008 at 9:58 am
TB’s o-line is really good. Even with their boring ass skill position players, they still had a decent offense last season. It’s the defense that carried them.
August 6th, 2008 at 9:59 am
I got season tickets to the Bucs. I’m excited about the chance of Favor coming down here to play. Garcia is okay, but Favor is better.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:00 am
Aaron Rodgers is officially on suicide watch for the entire season.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:00 am
Everyone assumes this is a one-year deal. If Favre has a year like last year and likes the team he ends up with, I’d guess he’s got an additional season in him.
Tampa Bay is in a terrible division that’s theirs for the taking.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:01 am
john..The year he got TB to the Playoffs showed he can win in this league…he started off well the next season and ruptured his spleen…he has been their fourth option ever since..you are telling me he is not better than Rex Grossman or Kyle Orton? How about Tavaris Jackson? I think he is better than Clemens and Pennington. Jeff Garcia is a better QB and he fits Gruden’s system better..and Having had experience with a Simms..they get better with age.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:01 am
@RMW – funny, she doesnt look druish.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:02 am
That’s a guy I feel bad for, the fans were chanting We Want Brett all during practice yesterday, he is in a no win situation, unless he plays like Kurt Warner in his first year with the Rams.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:02 am
Roman, I wish the 49ers would make a push for Simms, but Gruden is basically holding him hostage.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:03 am
PFT is reporting that Glazer is reporting that the JETS have made the best offer so far.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:04 am
I think it will be awesome to see Favre on a team with no weapons. So the media can fawn over Favre’s 73 QB Rating and we can hear “What’s wrong with Favre?” stories every week.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:06 am
cbh…I agree..It is like Gruden knows what he has..a good cheap cap friendly QB but for some reason they don’t get along..and he has an insecurity about his QBs so he just accumulates them
August 6th, 2008 at 10:09 am
“But it also appears that of all the teams that have an interest in Favre’s services, the Jets are the team Favre least wants to play for.”
Who does this prick think he is? I am heading back to the petition board.
If he turned down the money to stay retired and still wants to be a douche but doesnt want to be second string, isnt he fucked? Fuck this no chin ass having piece of Oxy.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:10 am
As a Bucs fan, that basically sums my whole argument for the year, the fact the division is wide open
August 6th, 2008 at 10:10 am
@TBL – how is Simms “poor” in any connotation of the word? he has lived his life in the luxury of who his daddy is and he has capitalized on his opportunities. a ruptured spleen is a tough setback, but he’s had plenty of opportunity and is still very young. I really have no ill will towards him at all and I do not doubt that he worked hard to become the started ar Texas, but poor is a shady work to use when describing him. you say poor Chris Simms; I say poor guy that works his way up to the league and escapes the ‘hood just to get cut so an indecisive jackass can feel important.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:10 am
Gruden is making sure Simms can’t latch on somewhere as a starter; he’s an ass like that. Simms will get cut at the very last possible moment.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:12 am
I wish Phil Simms could call a Buccaneers game, I wonder how objective he would be?
August 6th, 2008 at 10:15 am
Phil won’t do it…He already said that..he will never do What Bob Griese, Bill Walton and John Thompson do..fake objectivity with his son
August 6th, 2008 at 10:17 am
Is the Caddy up and running yet down there? Without him Favre will prob post a 40% passer rating.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:18 am
If Favre goes to the Bucs, the Bears should trade for Garcia. If that happens, I predict the Bears will have a better record than TB.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:18 am
What’s wrong with holding onto Simms and hoping someone wants to send you a draft pick or something for him?
August 6th, 2008 at 10:19 am
I dunno Nick, remember Garcia behind Cleveland’s line? Chicago’s isn’t much better.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:19 am
It’s been pretty obvious since this started that Favre wants to play for the Vikes this year. If you’re Tampa and you know that Favre really wants to be with someone else, do you want him and the half-asses effort you’re sure to get?
August 6th, 2008 at 10:20 am
Josh Johnson is Gruden’s latest project and while I would like to be as high on the him as others, last QB project that I liked was Simms and we all see how that is going
August 6th, 2008 at 10:20 am
Caddy’s career is as good as over.
Irish — how high would you take Earnest Graham in fantasy?
August 6th, 2008 at 10:20 am
The other decent looking chick on ESPN said that a 7 year old kid went up to ERIN Rodgers and said he sucked. Jeff Garcia is a pussy. I hope Farve comes down here Ill go to hella games especially the game when they play G.B. @home. If they close this deal football in Tampa is gonna be special. Im not a Bucs fan but the atmosphere is gonna be insane. Still Go Bears.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:22 am
a.) cadillac is supposed to start the season on the PUP list, and might not even play at all. but earnest graham is better than you guys are giving him credit for. he had 49 catches in what was essentially 11 games.
b.) TB is just fine with garcia: a fringe playoff team, probable division winner, but not really a threat in the playoffs unless they get some giants-like luck along the way.
c.) why does favre get to dictate who he’s traded to? if this was any other player in sports (except maybe kobe), green bay could have traded him to a non-threatening team (kansas city?) and it would have been over a long time ago. instead, favre is holding them hostage, threatening to pull a jake plummer, so teams won’t make an offer if there is a chance he won’t report to them.
in closing, favre is a douche, and we knew this all along.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:22 am
prediction: packers and bucs don’t make the playoffs
August 6th, 2008 at 10:23 am
how high would you take Earnest Graham in fantasy?
in my PPR league, i’m considering him at #13. no joke.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:23 am
favre is a bitch.
my 2 cents.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:24 am
Triston…nothing..but they aren’t even getting bites..they have no leverage everyone knows they have to cut him…cut him now and let him catch on somewhere
August 6th, 2008 at 10:24 am
do you want him and the half-asses effort you’re sure to get?
You really think that would happen?
August 6th, 2008 at 10:25 am
Why can’t Gruden just ship Garcia and a lower draft pick to GB for Favre.
Problem solved.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:25 am
Why cant Tampa get him and then trade him?
August 6th, 2008 at 10:26 am
Why would Green Bay want Garcia?
August 6th, 2008 at 10:27 am
Why wouldn’t they wait until the day before the season starts or the last day of training camp?
August 6th, 2008 at 10:27 am
cbh…i think favre has a poor season. jay glazer said it best this AM…he had shitty seasons before where he waffled and didn’t work out, last season he busted his ass hardcore all summer and had one of his better ones…what has he done this offseason? he’s already half assing it.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:27 am
It’d be great if Favre “Plummers” Tampa, I’d laugh my ass off.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:28 am
you really think that green bay would let him go without putting in a clause saying they couldnt do this? come on, that’s retarded.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:28 am
The Hattiesburg Haters disagree with you Spencer.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:28 am
Gentleman’s agreement not to? Or actually written into the trade agreement?
August 6th, 2008 at 10:29 am
There’s no such thing as gentleman’s agreement in sports.
/Carlos Boozer, Elton Brand
August 6th, 2008 at 10:30 am
can one team really dictate what another team does with a player once said player is officially a member of the other team?
August 6th, 2008 at 10:30 am
Heck if I know cbh, but for sure Garcia will be a problem if TB keeps him for more than a day.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:30 am
Why wouldn’t they wait until the day before the season starts or the last day of training camp?
i think they’re talking about chris simms. i doubt he would start this year regardless of when/if he is released.
green bay doesn’t want garcia. and garcia wants to start. if this was the NBA, bill simmons would have written 6,000 words about trade possibilities.
what about garcia to baltimore? that makes sense in my mind.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:30 am
Sounds like my first wife!
/NormanCha’d
August 6th, 2008 at 10:30 am
if a company can use a non-compete clause in real life, why couldn’t they in sports? it’s not far fetched at all.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:30 am
Garcia back to San Francisco!
August 6th, 2008 at 10:30 am
/reality
August 6th, 2008 at 10:31 am
Why would they want Garcia? Troy Smith is going to make the Pro Bowl.
/nick and spencer
August 6th, 2008 at 10:31 am
@cbh49er
I’m not saying Favre would tank it on purpose. I’m just saying his heart won’t be in it and he’ll wish he’d stayed retired by week 6.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:32 am
Nick…amen brother.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:32 am
RWH, I understand what you’re saying, but every team still has 4 preseason games left, plenty of time for a QB injury and someone will be looking for a back-up. Thus trading for Simms.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:33 am
i’ve got farve-lash…
August 6th, 2008 at 10:33 am
can companies that hire unionized workers (such as the NFL) use non-compete clauses? I would think the CBA’s would prevent such a thing. I’m lacking experience and kinda naive when it comes to business so it’s just a thought.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:33 am
I think it really depends on if Brett can be a game manager and limit his risk taking to late fourth quarters when tampa bay is down. I think Gruden is one of the few coaches out there who could get him to buy into that.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:36 am
Troy Smith is going to make the Pro Bowl.
On a serious note they named Kyle Boller the starter…Why?
August 6th, 2008 at 10:37 am
They named him the starter for the first preseason game, they haven’t decided anything about the season opener
August 6th, 2008 at 10:39 am
Yeah like can we talk about something or someone else for a change?
/Aaron Rodgers
August 6th, 2008 at 10:39 am
no idea…especially considering smith actually looked competent as a rookie last year.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:40 am
Spencer read comment 82.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:41 am
Nick… the Bucs plan is to hold on to Simms until last cuts so they are doing that
Tristan..sure they could but it would not be some groundbreaking thing to cut a veteran player early to let them catch on elsewhere..it happens a lot..in this case Gruden is screwing over Simms…there is no trade value..no one is giving up a pick for a guy who will get cut…Simms chances of competing for a starting job now is small since it is getting into August…a September signing makes it impossible
August 6th, 2008 at 10:43 am
Simms’ chances of competing for a starting spot have been small since 2006.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:43 am
I wonder what Michael Irvin thinks of all this …
August 6th, 2008 at 10:45 am
cbh…that comment posted as i was posting mine. regardless, why even keep boller around at this point? he’s proven he’s an awful QB, why not cut your losses and move forward with 2 young guys who have potential.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:46 am
Can’t say I disagree with you there.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:47 am
I can see it now: Aaron Rodgers gets boo’d out of Green Bay, goes to the Bears in 2009, and lights everyone up as payback for being treated like shit for the past three seasons.
I love how quickly the Packers fans forget the Mike Sherman era and are now calling for the heads of Thompson and McCarthy because of this situation.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:48 am
For going 11-5 and making the playoffs this year? Book it, SG!
August 6th, 2008 at 10:52 am
I can see it now: Aaron Rodgers gets injured and then boo’d out of Green Bay
August 6th, 2008 at 10:53 am
i can see it now…my meeting in 7 minutes is going to be boring.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:54 am
Sportsgal it’s booed.
/You started it.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:56 am
Minny-L
@Detroit-W
Dallas-L
@Tampa Bay-W
Atlanta-W
@Seattle-L
Indy-L
@Tennessee-L
@Minny-L
Chicago-W
@New Orleans-L
Panthers-W
Texans-W
@Jaguars-L
@Bears-W
Lions-W
Looks like 8-8 to me
August 6th, 2008 at 10:58 am
The apostrophe takes the place of the E. But at least YOUR trying!
Mike, even if they made the playoffs with Rodgers, I bet he’d still leave. The media coverage is going to be ridiculous this year because they’re still going to talk about Brett 24/7 even if he’s not in a Packers uni this season.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:59 am
You’re annoying.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:59 am
YYSA, the Packers have yet to win two games against the Bears since Lovie was coach. So you might want to adjust your record to 7-9.
August 6th, 2008 at 11:00 am
/because it’s fun
August 6th, 2008 at 11:03 am
sportsgal- I am planning on Lovie being unemployed for that second game.
August 6th, 2008 at 11:08 am
Erin Rodgers is weak I can’t wait for him to break his leg Theisman style and everyone is saying “see they should have kept Favre”.
August 6th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Bucs also have Antonio Bryant, a troubled yet highly productive receiver that fits perfectly with Favre and Gruden. Don’t underestimate his impact on the offense.
August 6th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
Guys. probably a little late on this but think: a non-compete agreement is binding on the player (or AG Biz wiz), but if HIS rights are traded to another company and that company paid in good faith for (fron the Selling company) then why cant he play for them? Makes no sense whatever.