How Much Off-the-Field Violence Is Acceptable for Professional Athletes?
Courts, Legal September 9th. 2008, 3:00pm
Newcastle midfielder Joey Barton finally received his six-match suspension for a brutal, unprovoked training-ground attack on (then Manchester City) teammate Ousmane Dabo in May 2007, that left him looking like “the Elephant Man.€ The original estimate was fifteen matches, with many calling for his outright ban from professional soccer. Barton was also fined $50,000.
Barton also recently finished a four-month prison term, for an attack on a 16-year-old boy in a Liverpool McDonalds. Additionally, He has had two other alleged incidents of assault with a taxi-driver and a 15-year-old Everton fan, hit a pedestrian with his car, and stubbed a cigar out in a teammate’s eye at a Christmas party.
Barton will be eligible to play for Newcastle at the end of October, and be paid about $120,000 per week to do so.
Joey Barton presents, perhaps, an extreme case. But his example parallels a similar lax attitude toward violence in American sports.
The Philadelphia Phillies stand aside when a talented pitcher clocks his wife in the face in public, and their fawning, forgetful beat-writing clique laughs at his zany antics a short time later.
Ron Artest left the court and started an arena-wide riot, but the Rockets think he’s the missing piece to a championship team.
Serial scumbags such as Jerramy Stevens remain in good standing with the NFL’s “Personal Conduct Policy.€ (While Ricky Williams is Satan.)
Run of the mill extracurricular violence in the NBA and NFL has become so ubiquitous it’s a prominent stereotype.
To a certain extent, athletics harnesses violent impulses. It’s no shock that a linebacker taught and trained into a maiming machine would export it into other facets of life. But, why does talent trump culpability? Is there a point where enough is enough regardless of a player’s talent? Should there be?
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September 9th, 2008 at 3:02 PM
Goodell’s head would explode if he were running… err… whatever league this guy plays in.
September 9th, 2008 at 3:04 PM
tyduffy, did you write the article about Americans and racism?
If so, I think you hate America.
If not, I take it back.
September 9th, 2008 at 3:07 PM
Hugh Jackman plays soccer?
September 9th, 2008 at 3:08 PM
Wait, I thought Goodell was a racist fascist for being too hard on players?
Now he is, but it’s because he’s too easy on Jerramy Stevens, who has actually been punished for the crimes he’s committed while playing in the NFL?
September 9th, 2008 at 3:08 PM
the average fan doesn’t interact at all with these guys. we want winners, we could care less about the extracurriculars as long as it doesn’t shape the organization (bengals, jaguars, pacers).
September 9th, 2008 at 3:09 PM
Psycho…
/Kevin Nealon
September 9th, 2008 at 3:14 PM
I disagree completely. I would rather lose forever and keep people like Jerramy out of my city than ever win with one. Honestly, these guys aren’t and shouldn’t be treated as characters who are above the law. I hate that about American society. A law is a law no matter how much recognition you have. If you break it you should get swift and just punishment just as you would if you were Joe Smith from Anytown, USA.
September 9th, 2008 at 3:18 PM
In all fairness to Barton, he *is* a scouser. He just can’t help himself.
September 9th, 2008 at 3:19 PM
Mike NYC, compare Jared Allen’s convictions with Adam Jones’ convictions and tell me if you don’t see a difference.
September 9th, 2008 at 3:21 PM
Who says they are above the law? They commit a crime and they are punished accordingly. Often to a greater extent than an “ordinary” welathy citizen in an effort to make an example of them. Now, they get away with more than poor people who can’t afford to notch legal representation, but that’s not an athlete thing.
September 9th, 2008 at 3:22 PM
The legal system is all about the monayyyyyyyyy.
/Speaking from experience
September 9th, 2008 at 3:23 PM
And Barton is pure scum, but it should be up to Newcastle or Man City or whomever, as a private business, to decide if employing someone like that is in their best interest.
September 9th, 2008 at 3:23 PM
Pacman has never been convicted of a crime. just because hes a moron and his friends suck doesn’t mean hes a criminal.
September 9th, 2008 at 3:23 PM
CBH-What did you do?
September 9th, 2008 at 3:23 PM
Clown, your first problem is that you’re using “convictions” as the measuring stick, when that really has no bearing whatsoever. The NFL is a corporation, not a court of law.
You need to be looking at “incidents” — look at Pacman’s tally, it’s very, very long.
Since Goodell has been Commish, Jared Allen has been arrested one time for a DUI. He received his four-game suspension.
What’s the problem, again?
September 9th, 2008 at 3:24 PM
We are fans of these athletes because they have special skills that only a very small percentage of the population possess. It is not because they are good guys.
However, if you look in any company that has as many employees as say the NFL, you will find many individuals that have similar criminal records, DUIs, assault, domestic violence. You just don’t hear about them.
September 9th, 2008 at 3:26 PM
You just don’t hear about them.
Then TBL is not doin his job.
September 9th, 2008 at 3:26 PM
The legal system is all about collecting from people who look like they can afford it while letting people walk who don’t
/speaking from experience
September 9th, 2008 at 3:27 PM
Pacman has been accused of what 5 or 6 things? You honestly believe he was innocent in all of those cases?
Tampa, would rather not say, not my proudest moment.
September 9th, 2008 at 3:28 PM
The difference between England and the US is that this guy would run into Pac-Man’s friends and get shot if tried to pull some of this shit
September 9th, 2008 at 3:29 PM
Goodell cut Allen’s suspension to two games.
September 9th, 2008 at 3:29 PM
Well not me, but a guy I know, and the legal system, once GOT – IT – ON.
/Chris Farley, bus driver
September 9th, 2008 at 3:30 PM
Cbh-Its cool man.Were all friends here, although Ive never jacked off while looking through my neighbors window(am I hot or cold?). I am not one to judge.
September 9th, 2008 at 3:31 PM
Haha, you’re icy hot Tampa Bo.
September 9th, 2008 at 3:31 PM
You are correct, my mistake. He ultimately received 2 games for the one incident under Goodell’s belt.
I’m still not seeing your point. Pacman received (I think) a full season, 16 games. Should Allen have gotten more? Should Pacman have gotten less (you clicked that link, right?)
September 9th, 2008 at 3:32 PM
Jared Allen has 3 DUI’s
September 9th, 2008 at 3:32 PM
CBH-Thats funny as shit. I dont want to be your Icy hot.
September 9th, 2008 at 3:36 PM
I think Allen should’ve gotten more, especially with his track record. If you’re agreeing with Goodell based on Jones’ history, then you have to look at Allen’s history as well. The dude doesn’t learn his lesson and he’s gonna Leonard Little someone pretty soon.
September 9th, 2008 at 3:38 PM
My boss just came to me and said his wife has broken down and left. I hope hes talking about her car.
September 9th, 2008 at 3:39 PM
I hate
that aboutAmerican society./corrected
September 9th, 2008 at 3:40 PM
I guess, Clown.
But Pacman was arrested twice before Goodell even became Commish — the best I can tell, the NFL didn’t suspend him at all. The team did.
For one game.
September 9th, 2008 at 3:41 PM
How do the Spanish fit into all of this?
And why did all those people make Joey Barton assault them? Why couldn’t they listen? Why did the teenager at McDonalds order the last apple pie? Why?
September 9th, 2008 at 3:41 PM
You are a scouser, a fucking scouser
You’re only happy on gyro day
Your dad is stealin
Your mom’s drug dealin
Please don’t take my hubcaps away
September 9th, 2008 at 3:42 PM
My question is, is this a media thing or a generation thing? Hopefully I explain this well enough: We all know the Yankees of way back when took the field hungover and banged groupies, but the media didn’t cover that stuff to the extent they do today (See: ND Flip Cup Pics at the top of this page). The number of crimes that athletes have been accused of lately is alarming, but there’s also a microscope that’s been placed above them that wasn’t there before. Just felt like that was worth saying.
Athletes have always acted up, and it seems like the (new) media now focusing on their every move has resulted in athletes having to own up to their actions in one way or another. So +1 TBL.
September 9th, 2008 at 3:44 PM
@Lance-and its funny most of the time.
September 9th, 2008 at 3:44 PM
So +1 TBL.
TBL, saving society one post at a time.
September 9th, 2008 at 3:45 PM
OJ
September 9th, 2008 at 3:46 PM
@Pulled Groin
Since you threw the first stone… AGAIN.
Go fuck yourself you scumbag.
September 9th, 2008 at 3:46 PM
Maggs, OJ Simpson was acquitted by a jury of his peers. I’m not sure who you are referencing.
September 9th, 2008 at 3:49 PM
I agree with you, Lance. Back in those days, the media saw themselves as insiders who were part of the team. They relished knowing who Joe D. and Mantle were banging because it was an inside joke you the reader weren’t privy to. It also bred the culture of media arrogance and now distain for blogs (sound familiar Buzz?) we see today.
September 9th, 2008 at 3:50 PM
Wound a little tight today Maggs?
September 9th, 2008 at 3:52 PM
Okay, so I did explain that clearly, cool.
@ Tampa: Yeah, most of the time it is funny. Especially when you know that if it gets posted here, it’ll soon get the attention of Yahoo!, ESPN, etc, then it gets even funnier.
September 9th, 2008 at 3:53 PM
No , I am fine I just hate it when people try to put words in my mouth and you are the fucking king of that shit. I wrote that I hate that aspect of American Society, don’t try to bend what I wrote so it fits what you may think of me. And furthermore go fuck yourself.
September 9th, 2008 at 3:57 PM
Maggs, you left a curveball up in the zone and I hit it about 450 feet. What else was I supposed to do? Thanks for your last comment because I needed a good laugh today.
September 9th, 2008 at 3:57 PM
hahaha good times tyduffy good times.
Build a bonfire, build a bonfire
Put the scousers on the top.
Put the city in the middle
And burn the fuckin lot.
I also enjoy this video, from the streets of Liverpool (allegedly):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPmI9Q5-Qtc
September 9th, 2008 at 3:58 PM
@Lance the media has changed in everything. JFK is banging broads two at a time and nary a word. Clinton has some interesting moments with a chubby intern and there is an official government report about it.
September 9th, 2008 at 4:08 PM
Clinton has some interesting moments with a chubby intern and there is an official government report about it.
When will Dems understand that it wasn’t because he had an affair, it was because he lied under oath.
September 9th, 2008 at 4:08 PM
That was only funny to you. You think I am some America hater although I have clearly stated on here that I am not. Here is how funny it is:
See there? It isn’t that funny.
September 9th, 2008 at 4:13 PM
I know you’re not an America hater Maggs. You just hate everything the country does and stands for. The difference is subtle but it’s there. I’ll give you some credit though. For a guy who can’t take a joke, you can come up with some funny shit once in a while.
September 9th, 2008 at 4:15 PM
He lied under oath and that is why the report was written, but he would not have had to lie under oath unless the media dug, found out about and reported the affair.
I was not trying to make a political statement.
September 9th, 2008 at 4:18 PM
My bad slc.
September 9th, 2008 at 4:21 PM
Completely false. I am a pessimist, sure. I am not at all happy with what this country has become in the last 8 years, also true. I think that makes me more of a patriot than just saying “Well ‘ol George has done alright! Freedom ‘taint free!” I would rather see things get better than see things stay the same. I would say rather than see things get worse, but that would be difficult.
September 9th, 2008 at 4:23 PM
I think I follow your logic slcbuckeye but I don’t get why Clinton “had” to lie. He wanted a hummer from a willing, yet chubby, intern. I think most men can relate. The lie gave red meat to the Republicans and made the situation 100x worse.
September 9th, 2008 at 4:24 PM
I don’t agree with Maggs a lot, but he’s pretty spot on there.
September 9th, 2008 at 4:30 PM
@Groin I don’t believe he had to lie, you are right he chose to lie, which made matters much worse.
The first time he was asked about it, not under oath, I am sure he had a reflex denial, like most men, and just continued on with it.
September 9th, 2008 at 4:31 PM
What has this country become?
September 9th, 2008 at 4:32 PM
You’re a Sioux fan fetch. That pretty much disqualifies you from having your opinion taken seriously.
September 9th, 2008 at 4:37 PM
What has this country become?
A land of fat heffers like Cayley Coconut or whatever her name is.
September 9th, 2008 at 4:37 PM
Yes, it cannot get possibly worse that the United States right now. We are the worst country on the planet, hands down.
September 9th, 2008 at 4:39 PM
+1, cbh – She needs to start purging.