Jeter.
Baseball September 16th. 2008, 1:15pm
It’s weird how many people dislike Derek Jeter. It probably has to do with playing for the Yankees, making $21 million, collecting four World Series rings and setting records in the process, not to mention gallivanting with Lima and Biel and Alba (not simultaneously, but we wouldn’t put it past him).
After the jump, the argument against Jeter, courtesy of an anonymous former college baseball player who emailed in a scathing critique of the man who has more hits than every New York Yankee besides Lou Gehrig. We’d just like to offer our pithy, meaningless opinion on Jeter before the avalanche of OVERRATED erupts: Terrific baseball player, undeniably a Hall of Fame lock, and due to his history of postseason success, ahead of Barry Larkin and Cal Ripken if you’re doing one of those purely subjective lists of great shortstops.
Bill James once said this “Derek Jeter could be the worst defensive shortstop of all time.€ I recommend you read the rest of this article. I dare anyone to argue Jeter deserves any gold gloves after reading that article.
Second, Jeter is tied with Milton Bradley tied in 296th place all time in slugging percentage. Players who are ranked of ahead of include: Kevin Millar, Rondell White, Trot Nixion and Ron Gant.
Third, Jeter ranks 119th place all time in On base percentage just behind Rusty Greer and slightly ahead of Keith Hernandez.
Forth, according to baseball reference.com at his age Jeter’s stats are most similar following players: Roberto Alomar, Frankie Frische, Ryne Sandberg and Alan Trammel.
Look at the player he compares to Alomar, Frische, Sandberg, and Trammel none of them got half the recognition Jeter had gotten over his career. Only Sandberg was ever the highest played player in the game. Jeter is currently third at $21,000,000.00 a year.
Before, you respond with Jeter has got four rings, do those same four rings make Tino Martinez better the Albert Pujols, Bernie Williams better the Barry Bonds, or does the fact that Paul O’Neil has five rings make him better the Jeter.
The bottom line is while I think Jeter is a Hall of Fame player, if we were going to compare him to a player in another sport it will probably [Dominique] Wilkins, a gifted offensive player who had to make up for his short comings on Defense.
In case you want to call me a stat geek, I was honorable mention all-state player in [redacted] out of high school, played college ball at [school] and [college], and was good enough to get scouted by the [NL team] and the [AL Playoff team].
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September 16th, 2008 at 1:18 PM
The Yankees are out of the playoff race so who cares about them or Jeter.
September 16th, 2008 at 1:18 PM
Learn how to properly form a sentence, and I will consider reading.
Also, it would help to know how to spell “fourth.”
September 16th, 2008 at 1:20 PM
Jeter is the most overrated player in the baseball….no one is even close.
September 16th, 2008 at 1:21 PM
I don’t care about stats, Cal Ripken greatest shortstop ever.
/Baltimore Orioles homer
September 16th, 2008 at 1:22 PM
/east coast biased
September 16th, 2008 at 1:24 PM
you spelled his name wrong. correctly spelled –> fuckin’ jeetah.
September 16th, 2008 at 1:24 PM
Jeter was gonna read this, but he has to go bang another hot chick and then go swimming in his pool filled with gold coins.
September 16th, 2008 at 1:24 PM
Ozzie Smith
September 16th, 2008 at 1:25 PM
SO let me get this straight. His most comparable players (which is kind of an antiquated toy anyway) are two hall of famers, a soon to be hall of famer, and the player that msot stats guy think ranks 2 or 3 as players not in who should be. And this is your reasoning for him being overrated? Jeter is a fabulous player who got paid more and got more media attention than a similar player no ton the yankees would have. Why does this upset everybody so much?
September 16th, 2008 at 1:25 PM
If we are talking about backflips then yes Ozzie was the best.
September 16th, 2008 at 1:27 PM
you cannot begin a baseball article with two worse words than “bill james.”
i was done before i started.
September 16th, 2008 at 1:27 PM
I am an unabashed Yankees hater and I don’t mind Jeter at all.
September 16th, 2008 at 1:28 PM
@cbh- are you trying to argue?
/cursedcleveland
September 16th, 2008 at 1:28 PM
bill james.
Bill James is Intern Bill?
September 16th, 2008 at 1:28 PM
But Jeter is true clubhouse leader!!
September 16th, 2008 at 1:29 PM
Duckworth just died?
September 16th, 2008 at 1:29 PM
don’t let mike lupica read that.
September 16th, 2008 at 1:29 PM
Apparently, you didn’t learn proper grammer and or English while playing all of that baseball. Who gives a shit about Jeter or the Yankess?
September 16th, 2008 at 1:29 PM
And Ned Yost was fired.
September 16th, 2008 at 1:30 PM
again?
September 16th, 2008 at 1:31 PM
Hey TBL would it have killed you to read over the email and make it readable?
Hey baseball player dude, you may have been all-state, but you still write like a forth grader.
September 16th, 2008 at 1:31 PM
Sounds like sour grapes to me. If Jeter’s game is so flawed, how flawed was this guy’s game?
September 16th, 2008 at 1:32 PM
Rumor Mongerer
/Al Davis
September 16th, 2008 at 1:32 PM
None of that makes any sense.
September 16th, 2008 at 1:33 PM
i’m not a yankees fan at all but jeter doesn’t bother me.
it’s called getting the job done. and jeter gets the job done (both on and off the field).
September 16th, 2008 at 1:34 PM
Something tells me he’s not alone…
September 16th, 2008 at 1:34 PM
Derek Jeter looks like a Muppety Lance Bass. Worth noting.
September 16th, 2008 at 1:34 PM
That he does Jimmy.
September 16th, 2008 at 1:35 PM
this really made me laugh,+1 JS.
Paul O’neil is my favorite Yankee of the 90s teams. Had he still been on the team, Jeter never would have been made captain.
September 16th, 2008 at 1:36 PM
I’m a casual baseball fan and think Jeter rocks. He owns NYC and has the admiration and respect of every Yankee fan and all of his peers. Plus he’s won rings for the team. Who gives a shit if he’s ranked 5384th all time on fielding percentage on ground balls going to his left in AL West ballparks on Thursdays.
September 16th, 2008 at 1:36 PM
I always think it’s funny when people criticize someone’s “grammar” and misspell the word.
September 16th, 2008 at 1:37 PM
wait til Fetch reads this. Jeetah is his favorite player.
September 16th, 2008 at 1:37 PM
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
/Paul O’Neil
September 16th, 2008 at 1:38 PM
i’m guessing jessica alba wrote that piece. she’s still mad she’s on valtrex.
September 16th, 2008 at 1:38 PM
that’s great CBH. he is still a stud.
September 16th, 2008 at 1:39 PM
You know, even as I was hitting the submit button, I thought of putting forth in quotes, but I decided that the oh-so-clever commenters here would understand the joke/irony there. Guess not.
September 16th, 2008 at 1:39 PM
Congratulations, you giant sack of douchesquash.
Of course Jeter’s SLG and OBP are not that high on the all-time ranks. He’s a fucking shortstop.
I hate Jeter as much as the next guy, but a little context goes a long way, super-athlete-anonymous-reader-guy.
September 16th, 2008 at 1:39 PM
Shit – I was [adjective] player in [sport] good enough to be recruited by [college]. Too bad I [adverb] wasted my chance by [verb ending in -ing] a [noun] that belonged to the dean. Next time, I’ll keep my [color] hands to myself, and refrain from grabbing the [body part].
/mad libs are awesome
September 16th, 2008 at 1:39 PM
TBL…all those records are SOLEY because he played during the Wild Card era.
and since when are Yankee records, MLB records?
September 16th, 2008 at 1:40 PM
Goose, it only works here if you put.
\sincere
September 16th, 2008 at 1:40 PM
I think the discrepancy arises from the fact that some boneheads take Jeter’s social standing within New York (bagged numerous dimepieces, owns the town, etc) and confuse that with his actual on-the-field baseball skills. True, he’s a great player. Great player. But he’s never single-handedly won a title for the Yankees, as someone alluded to above, and his stats aren’t that great. You don’t even have to look at his fielding percentage going to his left against AL West teams on Thursdays–hyperbole!! How funny!!–just look at his fielding in general. It’s deplorable.
September 16th, 2008 at 1:42 PM
/made accurater
September 16th, 2008 at 1:42 PM
I refuse to believe that Jeter isn’t awesome. I saw him in person once and he hit a HR in the 8th inning to put the Yankees ahead. If that’s not clutch, I don’t know what is.
September 16th, 2008 at 1:43 PM
Two things..when you are compared to two Hall of Famers you are not exactly overrated…second..I was alive and paying attention in the late 80’s and early 90’s..When was Ryne Sandberg not hyped and sometimes overhyped like Jeter? Please..that guy had his dick sucked plenty in his prime…Jeter played for a 4 time Champion in NY in the advanced Media Age..is he overdone sure but it is not his fault.
/just went and puked for defending “Than Captain”
September 16th, 2008 at 1:43 PM
ASF: where have you been mang? Kicking ass and taking names in the HR Department?
September 16th, 2008 at 1:45 PM
Yeah…sometimes I fear that I enjoy firing people a little too much. I got a new job where I actually have work to do, so I’m not on here as often. I usually just scan the site in the evenings.
September 16th, 2008 at 1:46 PM
I do believe the word for which you are looking is “grammar”.
September 16th, 2008 at 1:47 PM
Not exactly a banner day here on TBL. A whine about bloggers not getting press passes followed by a non story about TK followed by a whine about a sports media TV show and a Jeter post.
September 16th, 2008 at 1:47 PM
Paul O’Neill can hit a homerun and a triple + run on error to make a sick kid happy. Then he can catch a fly ball in his hat just to make Jeetah look like a real fucktard.
September 16th, 2008 at 1:47 PM
Is that code for TBL has a man crush on Jeter?
September 16th, 2008 at 1:47 PM
Oh..and I everything I say matters…I was the platoon RF on the 2nd place Oceanside International House of Pancakes team in my first season of Babe Ruth..we were the tits
September 16th, 2008 at 1:47 PM
nice. how excited were you about the Falcons in week 1? granted, it was just the Lions.
September 16th, 2008 at 1:47 PM
That joke was funnier when atlanta told it.
September 16th, 2008 at 1:48 PM
Not exactly a banner day here on TBL. A whine about bloggers not getting press passes followed by a non story about TK followed by a whine about a sports media TV show and a Jeter post.
Groin, you run the site tomorrow
\TBL
Leave TBL alone
\sparty
September 16th, 2008 at 1:48 PM
I Pulled a Groing, quit whining.
/first?
September 16th, 2008 at 1:49 PM
LOL
September 16th, 2008 at 1:50 PM
Am I the only one who thinks the anonymous douchebag “former athlete” is Jose Canseco who is pissed that he couldn’t get Jeter in the stall in the clubhouse bathroom and now wants to tear him down by sending a letter to TBL?
September 16th, 2008 at 1:50 PM
that “non-story” is the lead story on yahoo news.
September 16th, 2008 at 1:50 PM
Jeter has pull this site. See 8th most read post ————>
September 16th, 2008 at 1:51 PM
So why can’t we just leave it at that? Seems like his social standing and all the other off the field stuff creates some resentment about the guy which causes baseball fans to go out of their way to criticize him. “Oh he’s not really THAT great. Why does he get all this acclaim and attention? His fielding SUCKS!”
Who gives a shit. He’s Derek Jeter for a reason, and if some of those reasons include the off-field stuff, so be it. That adds to a player’s status and myth. Just look at Ruth, Mantle, Wilt, Jordan. All their “accomplishments” off the field just added to their mystique and greatness.
September 16th, 2008 at 1:51 PM
damnit. here comes “sportsgirl”
September 16th, 2008 at 1:52 PM
@Rex, what’s a groing?
September 16th, 2008 at 1:54 PM
I didnt read this all I know is Jeter is a fucking class act team player. I wish more guys would be as selfless as he is.
September 16th, 2008 at 1:54 PM
Somwhere, Intern Bill is alternately chuckling and smacking himself in the forehead because someone else stole his act.
Really – this was barely message board material on Fanhouse and it gets a full post here? I some days are slow news days and that you need to fill space and time, but really, this is the best TBL had? You couldn’t rip one out about some movie post or induce one of the many writers in the ever-expanding TBL stable (filled with manure, by the way) to contribute something less awful? What – no Hef Chronicles laying around?
Quality control is becoming an issue. A big issue.
September 16th, 2008 at 1:56 PM
Jesus is slowly becoming my favorite commenter on here.
/born again
September 16th, 2008 at 1:56 PM
He’s Derek Jeter for a reason
/Because Mr. and Mrs. Jeter named him that?
September 16th, 2008 at 1:57 PM
/fixed
September 16th, 2008 at 1:57 PM
last year the media tried for about one week to make him look bad…this was following A-Rod telling them that they didn’t have sleepovers anymore…it didn’t take and they stopped.
September 16th, 2008 at 1:58 PM
@Benji – I was surprised, and happy for the team given what they dealt with last year. But it was reserved optimism. I still predict them to be a 6-7 win team. After that first game, people around here (who are generally stupid bandwagoners) were talking playoffs. Hopefully Week 2 vs. Tampa brought them back down to earth. The falcons have a long way to go, but I’ve never thought they’d be as bad as people predicted (like all the 2-14 predictions). You can’t use last year as a barometer when judging this team–they had too much stuff going on off the field. So they’re definitely not great, but they’re not 2-14 bad either. At least that’s what I think.
@The Goose – why can’t we just leave it at that? Fine by me. The problem is, people don’t. That’s my issue. He’s not one of the top 5 players in the game, but many will tell you he is…and I am of the opinion that people’s views are slanted by his popularity, not his actual on-the-field performance.
September 16th, 2008 at 1:59 PM
Jesus, did TBL take your name in vain or something?
/agree with most of your post
September 16th, 2008 at 2:00 PM
Jesus – what are you, omnipotent?
Oh yeah…never mind.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:00 PM
+1 Mike
Who is this Jesus guy? i have never heard of him and he is one angry son of a gun
September 16th, 2008 at 2:01 PM
Did you read TBL’s own headline jimmmy?
September 16th, 2008 at 2:02 PM
It’s similar to a dickfer.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:02 PM
Im still trying to wrap my head around tino Martinez not being better than albert pujols. I challenge you to give me any reason why the 96 yanks aren’t inducted into the HOF as the greatest team to walk the earth, in all of sports.
/ Vito from Paramus
September 16th, 2008 at 2:03 PM
Jesus you might want to get out of here before you are crucified…again.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:05 PM
what’s a dickfer?
oh, and Jesus, do you have any tips on building a deck for my backyard? the carpentry guy at Home Depot was worthless, i was hoping you’d be a better source of info.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:05 PM
vito-that would be the 98 yanks.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:08 PM
@spencer: Hef might also be one to consider when looking for carpentry tips.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:08 PM
all of this Jeter hate makes me laugh. he gets paid what he does for what he brings to the Yankees, not for what he brings to MLB or the game in general. as a Yankees fan i’d rather have Jeter playing SS than any other player. not because there aren’t guys who might be better, but there aren’t guys who are going to be better as a Yankee. after all isn’t that what matters, what a guy does for your team? and for the Yankees, he’s won a ROY, 4 WS rings, 12 straight trips to the playoffs and a WS MVP. you know what, that’s all i care about.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:08 PM
It is of my humble opinion that Andy Pettite is the greatest left handed pitcher in the history of baseball…well maybe the second best after Whitey Ford but just ahead of Ron Guidry. Its all about big games and championships.
/Tony from Bensonhurst
September 16th, 2008 at 2:10 PM
I don’t dislike Derek Jeter, but I do hope the Yankees keep playing him at SS. I want them to keep missing the playoffs.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:12 PM
Two things:
1) Calling him a Hall of Fame player at the end of his argument completely negates everything he said about him. If you think he’s no better than Milton Bradley and Rusty Greer, why are you then going to say he’s HOF worthy?
2) You couldn’t edit that letter? Jesus.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:12 PM
it’s this shit that’s fueling the fire.
so being an incredibly overrated, and not very productive player, isn’t that important because he’s a good yankee? A-Rod is a better player in EVERY SINGLE FACET OF THE GAME but obviously isn’t good enough?
yankee fans are the worst…worse than Michigan, Steeler, Notre Dame, Red Sox and Patriot fans rolled into one.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:13 PM
the yanks existed before 1996?
/ Vito from Paramus
September 16th, 2008 at 2:16 PM
This “College Baseball Player” should have spent more time in the classroom. The guy is a friggin idiot when it comes to spelling and grammar.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:18 PM
all i said was what being a fan is. as a fan of the Yankees i’d rather have Jeter and what he’s brought to the team than not have him.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:18 PM
ahem…
/Cubs Fans
September 16th, 2008 at 2:18 PM
I hope you’re being glib.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:19 PM
relax, Tom.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:21 PM
Cubs fans are the biggest pieces of shit ever to roam this planet. Wouldn’t it be cool is Wrigley caught on fire.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:22 PM
Sparty I want to punch you in the groing for being such a dickfer about Cubs fans.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:24 PM
sportsgal?
September 16th, 2008 at 2:24 PM
Never met a Cubs fan in real life(isn’t that weird?), but I’ve known enough Yankee fans that if I hear the word “intangibles” I start pulling out my hair as a natural reaction.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:25 PM
Do you print eveyr email from morons who back up their claims with the fact that they might have been scouted by two teams?
September 16th, 2008 at 2:25 PM
i think i’m in love.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:25 PM
In my opinion, Chipper Jones is very similar to Jeter if you compare team success over each player’s respective career, support from the fanbase, and hatred from your rivals. The major differences are that Jeter plays in New York so he gets more attention and Chipper is a better all-around player.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:26 PM
my favorite argument about Jeter is how his intangibles raise him above other players, like there’s some crazy metric to actually measure these things in a subjective way against other players.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:26 PM
I think it is so obnoxious how Yankers fans and Jeter lovers discard any statistic with a statement such as “he is a great leader” or “a great yankee”. Why don’t we just stop keeping statistics then…we’ll just judge who is good and not by “our gut”. We don’t want to overthink things by using numbers and nerdy things like that.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:27 PM
Oops. I forgot to put
/backhandedcomplimentoftheday
at the end of my last post.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:27 PM
Quit wasting internet, illiterate super athlete
September 16th, 2008 at 2:27 PM
being a former high school and college player, and being scouted by teams doesn’t mean you know squat.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:29 PM
And I’ve seen this discussion 100 times around this site, but please don’t throw the 50 million Cubs fans in America under the same blanket just because you know one jackass who goes to games, gets piss drunk, and shows off his double kegger gut in the bleachers while bitching about goats, Moises Alou and Dusty Baker. We aren’t all like that.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:31 PM
To go one step further: Saying you have a more valid opinion about one baseball player because you were scouted by a pro team in college is like saying I have the authority to preach about law because Harvard law looked at my application.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:31 PM
Good ol’ fashion Cubs hating has been going on all day at MLJ.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:31 PM
Here here, could I please get this to apply to Boston fans too? No? Oh well I tried.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:32 PM
No, they are all douches.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:33 PM
Emmitt Smith respectfully disagrees.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:34 PM
They have even less credibility than guy who was [redacted] out of high school, played college ball at [school] and [college], and was good enough to get scouted by the [NL team] and the [AL Playoff tea].
September 16th, 2008 at 2:34 PM
If Jeter played his career for, say, the Royals, we don’t have this discussion. Take him out of pinstripes, and out of the best lineup that money and ‘roids can create, and he’s basically David DeJesus.
/never scouted for anything.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:35 PM
Cracker jack, just wait, if the Cubs win the world series (I just laughed typing that) you’ll be meeting cubs fans all over the place.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:41 PM
@spencer06:
If you are building a raised deck make sure the anchor posts are to code (deep and wide enough – hmm, probably setting up clown, but oh well) and please please please make sure all the cross beams are level.
If you are simply going to pour a concrete back deck, well, that’s masonry, not carpentry. I can recommend some people for that job, but it’s not My thing.
I also have some dynamite plans for adirondack chairs for your deck. Let Me know how it goes.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:42 PM
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i’m with ya…every yankee who has scored a meaningful post season run or big time rbi gets into the hall. that means ricky ledee, chad curtis, luis sojo, chuck knoblauch, scott brosius and many many more!
September 16th, 2008 at 2:42 PM
I’m baffled that TBL thinks Jeter is better than Ripken? I mean really? Are you retarded?
September 16th, 2008 at 2:43 PM
ripken sucked.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:44 PM
Please to note – I did not even comment on Jeter. I am enjoying the wandering river of comments – from Jeter defenders and detractors, to the quality of various fandoms to the veracity of statistical analysis.
I’ll say this – Jeter knows how to fist pump and that counts for something.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:44 PM
@ professor: He still would have wound up with the Yankees.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:44 PM
ripken sucked.
You must be Vito from Paramus
September 16th, 2008 at 2:45 PM
I can recommend some people for that job, but it’s not My thing.
Did I ever tell you about how shitty of a job Judas did with my deck.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:45 PM
/Jesus’d
September 16th, 2008 at 2:47 PM
That cuts me deep Sparty. He’s my god.
/sorry Jesus.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:47 PM
Jesus is such a good sport. +JS to Jesus.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:47 PM
I’m baffled that TBL thinks Jeter is better than Ripken?
Ripken sucks but he did stay at a holiday inn express.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:47 PM
If Jeter is so bad defensively, how come he was able to throw out a Giambi brother in the playoffs with a backhand flip on a play that took incredible baseball instinct to make. That’s not the shortstop’s play ever.
And I don’t think I’ve seen any shortstops go diving into the stands and wrecking themselves on the seats face first on a pop fly except Jeter. So, maybe he’s not entirley all that shitty at defense, you know?
This from a mostly retarded Padres fan who still curses the ‘98 Yankees and the umpiring crew screwing Mark Langston…
September 16th, 2008 at 2:49 PM
nope, i am King Leonidas. And This is “SPARTA!”
September 16th, 2008 at 2:50 PM
whoa CJ…close replay shows that ball was not a strike.
good call, blue.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:51 PM
Ah, clown, you keep Me laughing.
How about this, just to stoke an argument:
Jeter > Kobe
September 16th, 2008 at 2:51 PM
CJ, that’s the point!! People see two awesome plays on the big stage and assume he does that everyday. He has made some awesome plays, but there is also routine balls he can’t ever get to.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:54 PM
@Tampa Bo:
Well, you have to be careful with the gingers. Can’t trust them, not one bit.
@Billy Buckner:
Well, Ripken had a nice little streak of showing up to work everyday there for a bit, but did he ever curse out a fig tree like Yours Truly? No, didn’t think so.
Advantage, Me.
September 16th, 2008 at 2:55 PM
/let’s be fair.
this was not always the case.
September 16th, 2008 at 4:05 PM
who is better, pete rose or derek jeter?
(ducking)
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/joe_posnanski/09/16/posnanski.jeterrose/index.html
September 16th, 2008 at 4:33 PM
Jeremy Giambi was safe.
September 16th, 2008 at 4:42 PM
July 1st – Jeter runs a long way to catch the ball around the foul line, continues to run full speed after the catch and dives into the stands. Gets mad amounts of love because he’s Derek Jeter and he gets a bruise/cut on his cheek.
Game 4 of the World Series in the 9th inning of a 1 run ball game – Juan Uribe runs toward and dives into the stands to make a catch, in a far more important spot. Gets some love from Chicagoans cuz he’s a fun little tubby guy that made a great play, but not nearly to the levels of the love that Jeter got.
…Just saying is all
September 16th, 2008 at 4:48 PM
Sorry, I am not a stat guy. Can someone tell me how many points you get on your slugging percentage for running half way across the field and make a game winning play in a playoff elimination game?
@ Jeeves, if “mad amounts of love” are Sportscenter highlights and people calling him stupid for diving, then I guess you are right.
September 16th, 2008 at 5:12 PM
As well as people trying to use that play as a basis of why he’s a good defensive SS as I had quoted