Frerotte … Thigpen … Brady Quinn?
NFL September 18th. 2008, 9:45am
Never saw this one coming. Completely blindsided. Noted Democrat Gus Frerotte was tabbed captain of the SS VIkings yesterday to the surprise of absolutely nobody other than Dan Dierdorf. Tarvaris Jackson is an admirable fellow who had the misfortune of making Mike Vick’s passing form look like Joe Montana’s. But he killed the comeback against Green Bay with an interception, and his inability to get the Vikings into the end zone is the primary reason Minny lost to the Colts at home and fell to 0-2.
But Frerotte is 37. He favors cement shoes and now that the media klieg lights have been shone his way, we suspect he’ll start dying his hair. (A testament to his immobility: In 14 seasons, he has rushed for 308 yards; Adrian Peterson galloped for 296 in a game against the Chargers last season.) The last time Frerotte faced the Panthers was 2005 – his season stats, eerily, were very T Jackson-like – and guided Nick Saban’s Dolphins to victory, registering a QB rating of (buckle up): 66.6.
Also named a starter yesterday, amid much less fanfare because nobody knows who the hell he is: Tyler Thigpen in Kansas City. Apparently, the Coastal Carolina grad likes skeletons, but not much else is known about him. [Aside: Anyone remember Yancy Thigpen, a receiver on the Steelers? We keep thinking about him when we hear Tyler Thigpen's name. Also, Pig Pen of Charlie Brown fame comes to mind.]
Next big name to get a start? Brady Quinn in Cleveland if Derek Anderson can’t win in Baltimore.
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September 18th, 2008 at 9:50 am
Yancey Thigpen is a gimpy bitch.
/huge waste of money for the Oilers/Titans
September 18th, 2008 at 9:51 am
peyton could be qb for that team and it wouldnt matter as long as theyre still just running shitty four yard routes. horrible coaching.
September 18th, 2008 at 9:51 am
Frerotte has completed 54.2 percent of his passes during his career for 19,134 yards and a 74.3 quarterback rating
How is this better than T-Jack?
/yes, it’s a repeat
September 18th, 2008 at 9:53 am
Mak – 0-2. Inability to move the offense.
John David Booty will see action this season, that much seems certain.
September 18th, 2008 at 9:55 am
The success of the Vikings depend on the fact that IF the Vikings coaches trust Gus more than they did Jackson, then this will open up the playbook a little more and make opposing defenses think twice about stacking 8-9 guys in the box. Handing off on 3rd and 7 while on your own 45 will not win you games. Throwing a pass or two BEFORE 3rd down is necessary and Jackson’s offense didn’t do this. Hopefully, Gus can do this.
September 18th, 2008 at 9:56 am
So lets recap. My fantasy team has Andersen, Hassleback, and had Pennington. (the rest of my team is absolutely loaded though) So I picked up Frerotte, and am going to start him. I have AP too. Pennington is done, but I can’t take a chance on him again with Henne waiting. I’m still on the fence with Hassleback vs. St. Louis. It’s not good when he says that he really doesn’t know where his wr’s are going to be at on the field. That is scary. It’ll be a wait and see approach I guess.
September 18th, 2008 at 9:57 am
How hard is it to hand the ball to AP? This team shouldn’t even have a passing attempt all year.
September 18th, 2008 at 9:57 am
larry johnson, line one
September 18th, 2008 at 9:58 am
When you go into a season with Jackson and head butt as your two quarterbacks you are destined for failure. Childress learned from Reid – take an area of glaring need – ignore it – and insist your team is fine.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:00 am
Thank god.
I do know Coastal Carolina has a pretty good baseball program, so Thigpen has that going for him.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:01 am
Right, it’s not like he’s second in the league in carries already.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:01 am
personally im just glad the IAA qbs are getting some love, it seems people may finally be realizing that just because you went to usc or texas doesnt mean youre a good pro
September 18th, 2008 at 10:03 am
LUV the Mike Vick line (TJ looks horrible throwing the ball)… And I said back during the draft that JDB can be a factor IF he gets a chance to Play. You would think the coaching staff is grooming HIM to eventually take over… We’ll wait and see.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:03 am
How hard is it to hand the ball to AP?
Right, it’s not like he’s second in the league in carries already.
Mike do you know if hes getting alot of screen passes?
September 18th, 2008 at 10:03 am
“and guided Nick Saban’s Dolphins to victory, registering a QB rating of (buckle up): 66.6.”
So, are you saying that Gus is actually Satan? Or are you saying Nick Saban is Satan? Wait, I knew the answer to that last question.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:03 am
moleman,
true, but how many 1AA qb’s are doing well? Jackson looks overwhelmed and Flaco has had only one other game under his belt.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:05 am
I think Derek Anderson may get a longer leash. Given his new contract, I’m guessing he’s on the field until they are on the brink of elimination within the division. Even if they lose and the Steelers win (putting them 3 back), it’s still too early to panic with 13 games left.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:05 am
Who needs a QB… it’s not like they have WRs either.
just direct snap it to Purple Jesus and use the extra position to add a TE on the line to block.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:06 am
im just glad theyre getting looks
September 18th, 2008 at 10:06 am
Five catches on six targets. Getting Peterson the ball isn’t the problem.
TBL, were you sold on TJax before the season?
September 18th, 2008 at 10:06 am
sometimes, it’s better to just put the info out there, and let you fill in your own blanks
September 18th, 2008 at 10:06 am
@KC – answer to your question. too much circumstantial evidence.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:07 am
perhaps you were on vacation
September 18th, 2008 at 10:09 am
Five catches on six targets. Getting Peterson the ball isn’t the problem.
Maybe they need to switch it up like Reggie Bush and start throwing him the ball on little dump off plays.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:13 am
Mizerle -
Interesting. I always thought the devil went down to Georgia, but apparently he has set up shop in Bama.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:15 am
The screen pass to AP does not exist right now. Mostly because AP is still not out on passing plays, Chester Taylor gets that duty. Allegedly, Peterson’s pass blocking is still suspect.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:18 am
John David Booty is going to utterly fail as a pro. His coaches at USC have as much as said that he was the biggest limiting factor on their offense last year. When you can’t run a pro style offense against vastly weaker competition like USC does, why on earth do you think he’s capable of leading an actual pro offense against equal or better competition?
September 18th, 2008 at 10:19 am
he went to usc, thus hes a great qb. just like leinart.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:19 am
Mike, your link in the round-up was uncalled for and that is as far from what I believe as possible. Your kids should be proud.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:19 am
based on what I’ve seen from DA this year…Quinn should be STARTING against the Ravens.
DA has looked awful.
but in his defense, it helps if you’re fucking hollywood-wannabe, globe-trotting, screen-writing, fucking WR who gets $7 mil per fucking year COULD FUCKING CATCH.
or maybe braylon just needs every ball thrown over his head so he can make the ridiculous catch. seriously, how can a guy catch the hardest passes imaginable, but drop a 4 yard slant?
September 18th, 2008 at 10:20 am
i am laughing my ass off at stern. they’re replaying the time tracy went off on grillo … i dont even know who these people are, but it’s fucking hilarious. (it’s early in the news segment)
September 18th, 2008 at 10:20 am
“We want to take a look at him,†coach Herm Edwards said. Someone tell Herm that preseason ended 3 weeks ago.
DA is in serious trouble if he stinks it up against the Ravens this week. It hasn’t all been his fault, lots of drops, can’t run, but thats how this QB thing works sometimes.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:21 am
They made the mistake of not going after Pennington. He would have been perfect for Minn.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:23 am
coop…well, the can’t run thing is kinda excusable seeing as LOTS of teams can’t run against the Steelers and Cowboys.
ok, it’s not excusable.
well…maybe the browns can suck to the point where they’ll be able to draft beanie wells.
/EXTREMELY jaded after last weekend.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:25 am
based on what I’ve seen from DA this year…Quinn should be STARTING against the Ravens.
Yes Quinn is a cocksucker but he showed in pre season he is ready. I have Braylon and K2 on one of my fantasy teams I need this.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:26 am
Maggs can dish it but can’t take it. (I fondly recall you calling me a racist.) Awww. And I don’t have kids, I’m much too young. Don’t “call me out” and I’ll oblige the same — deal?
Agree 100%
September 18th, 2008 at 10:26 am
Be careful, you don’t want him to hear you say that, he might misunderstood what exactly you need.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:26 am
Spence – I wouldn’t jump off the bridge yet. Even if you’re really pessimistic and concede the division already, CLE still has distinct wild card/playoff hopes considering Jax is 0-2, Indy is 1-1, SD is 0-2, NYJ is 1-1. Very few of the “contenders” have done anything in the AFC to this point in the season.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:27 am
Blah. Misunderstand.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:28 am
tbl thats one of my favorite fights on stern…tracy is the intern manager and grillo was a 7yr intern that everyone always ragged on
September 18th, 2008 at 10:29 am
@xv43- Good call. So Brady if you are reading this I dont need you to suck my cock. I need you throw passes to Braylon and K2.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:30 am
No deals man. That link was way over the top in my opinion.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:30 am
rough lines for the NFL this weekend … anything jump out at anyone?
I’m leaning Saints +5.5 at Denver. Don’t like the Broncos, think they’re overrated.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:31 am
But calling someone a racist isn’t? I see.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:31 am
Can someone please explain gambling on Football? I dont get the lines, the over the under. I just never got into it. If I get it I might start betting.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:31 am
roethlishotdog…yea, i hear you, but the offense has been so utterly disappointing it’s a shame…even though they have faced some tough defenses. PIT’s defense, especially, is a force to be reckoned with, that front 7…dear lord…too many huge, fast, scary LB’s.
but DA has been getting absurdly good pass protection and has a shitload of time back there and can’t do a single fucking thing. he needs a big day against Balt seeing as their D can be had…at least now.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:35 am
Ha — start with two-team, six-point teasers. You’ll become addicted. You have to pick two games, and win both to win your bet. Usually, it’s even money (bet $100 to win $100.) You get to take six points and place them on either side of the line, for each game. So this week, you could bet:
ARZ +9 @ WAS
TB +9 @ CHI
To win your bet, both ARZ and TB need to either win their games outright, or lose by less than nine points.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:37 am
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True, but they absolutely must beat Cincinnati and Baltimore. Playing the Giants after the bye makes 2-3 most likely the best they can be after 5 games.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:38 am
Tampa, I understand why people bet, but I dont see the need. I love football, possibly too much, I certainly don’t need any “juice” to be very interested in just about any game on.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:38 am
This one’s easy. If the O/U is 45, you simply add up the scores from both teams (for example, PIT beat CLE last week 10 to 6). The 16 points is less than 45, so if you bet the Under you’d win. It’s an even money bet (minus the house vig). Usually bet $100 to win $90 or so.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:39 am
It went from me claiming you like McCain to you linking that I believe in the destruction of America and Israel. That is way over the top. How does that even begin to be funny? That is funny to maybe one person and that is you. You are disgusting. This shit isn’t even fun anymore. Until this site gets some kind of control I will have to get my daily news elsewhere. You can link this all you want Mike.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:39 am
ARZ +9 @ WAS
TB +9 @ CHI
To win your bet, both ARZ and TB need to either win their games outright, or lose by less than nine points.
Or I can bet Chicago to win but they have to win by 9 points. Same with washington?
September 18th, 2008 at 10:40 am
teasers are lame.
Vegaswatch sent me this last year and I’ve done well since following its logic.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:40 am
@Rothlishotdog- I get it
September 18th, 2008 at 10:41 am
You got it – but if they won by 9 exactly you’d tie (“push”) and hence lose.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:42 am
You didn’t answer my question. And I know you know what I’m talking about, because I Pulled A Groin called you out on it, too. When you called me a racist. How is that not over the top, and how does that even begin to be funny? How is that “fun”? I’m just trying to get some consistency out of you. If both are over the line, then fine. If neither are, then fine, too. Just let me know the rules, I’ll be happy to play by them.
And honestly, if you really were that offended, I am genuinely sorry. I’m not too stubborn to apologize.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:43 am
I am now a gamblin man. I need to find a bookie in Tampa.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:44 am
The King of Personal Attacks is hyper-sensitive? I never would have guessed that.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:46 am
No. The original line is TB +3 / CHI -3. I took six points, and put it on their side, to make it TB +9. If you took the six points and put it on CHI’s side, it would be CHI +3 (-3 + 6 = 3.) So if the Bears win straight up, or if they lose by less than 3, you win.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:47 am
When some says “cause I pulled a groin” called you out on it” the bickering has gotten ridiculous.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:47 am
@TBL – clicked on your Vegaswatch link and got this:
I thought you were married?
September 18th, 2008 at 10:48 am
@Tampa – find me one in JAX while you’re at it. I’d love to sling a few dollars but don’t know any way to do it online.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:49 am
http://www.sportsbook.com, although I would recommend shopping around to find a site that you think has the best lines….just not at work.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:49 am
Google “World Sports Exchange.” They take credit card. You’ll be up and running in five minutes.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:50 am
You didnt fucking say that. Now Im confused.So what does +3/-3 Mean?
September 18th, 2008 at 10:51 am
Google “World Sports Exchange.€ They take credit card. You’ll be up and running in five minutes.
Is this shit leagal?
September 18th, 2008 at 10:52 am
Tampa – It has wiggle room on legality
September 18th, 2008 at 10:52 am
Betus.com is what I use. Happy with it, except it’ll cost you $50 to get any type of payout. Thats there charge to send you a check or deposit anything in an account for your winnings.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:52 am
you’re looking for a bookie in Tampa and worried about whether it’s legal online?
September 18th, 2008 at 10:54 am
mike does wsex take new accounts anymore? i had one with them back in the day but dont have access to the email address i used for it anymore.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:54 am
thanks for the online direction, fellas. I will be up and running and losing mad cash soon!
September 18th, 2008 at 10:54 am
you’re looking for a bookie in Tampa and worried about whether it’s legal online?
Its not documented online.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:54 am
Haha.
The line is TB +3, or, in other words, CHI -3. The Bears are favorite by three points.
A teaser lets you take six points and put it on either side of the line. (You do this for two games, minimum.)
If you put the six points on TB’s side, you are taking them, and getting nine points. The original three plus the six from the teaser.
If you put the six points on CHI’s side, you are taking them, and getting three points. The original -3, plus the six from the teaser. (-3 + 6 = 3)
September 18th, 2008 at 10:54 am
It’ll make college basketball INFURIATING
September 18th, 2008 at 10:55 am
sorry fellas
September 18th, 2008 at 10:55 am
lol
it’s a gambling message board.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:56 am
Basically whatever the line for MU is, just take it. Buffalo at home? Wish I could look it up at work.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:56 am
Hmm. Not sure, haven’t tried to open a new one for a few years now.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:57 am
i just know that alot of card companies wont let you use gambling sites now. i know pnc wont. fuckers.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:57 am
The line is TB +3, or, in other words, CHI -3. The Bears are favorite by three points.
Can I just str8 up bet on either chicago or tampa and Chicago eiter has to win str8 up or lose by less than 3. Reverse for TB?
September 18th, 2008 at 10:59 am
You can just bet the line, CHI -3. Bears have to win, and win by 3 (for a push) or more (for a win). If they win by 1, you lose.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:01 am
I don’t know – sure is fun though
September 18th, 2008 at 11:01 am
AH ok I like that better. Im down. My life has just began its downward spiral. sweet.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:03 am
You can just bet the line, CHI -3. Bears have to win, and win by 3 (for a push) or more (for a win). If they win by 1, you lose.</em
Wait! how would it work if I bet TB and line is CHI -3.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:04 am
If you bet on Tampa, then you would be getting three points. They have to either win, or lose by 1 or 2 points. If they lose by three, you push (a tie, basically.) If they lose by 4 or more points, you lose.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:05 am
TB would have to win or lose by no more than 2. If the final is CHI 22 TB 20, you’d still win. If it was CHI 23 TB 20, you’d push.
In all seriousness, can’t they make a law/rule that all spreads require a 0.5 in them? Pushes suck
September 18th, 2008 at 11:07 am
Mike I used to not care for you too much but now you have taught me how to gamble thank you sir you are like a Uncle to me.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:08 am
Ha — no problem, Tampa Bo. Good luck.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:09 am
How long until Tampa gets a nickname like “Frankie Four Fingers”?
September 18th, 2008 at 11:09 am
most places if you push a teaser you lose
September 18th, 2008 at 11:09 am
HawkEye The Over Under is 6 months
September 18th, 2008 at 11:10 am
I’ve got the under.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:11 am
A word of advice, Tampa — start off slow.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:11 am
tampa is already into me for thirty large
September 18th, 2008 at 11:12 am
i was up eightyfive hundred bucks. next thing i know, im blowing a guy for a sandwich
September 18th, 2008 at 11:13 am
Tampa, essentially take the actual score of the game and if you bet Chicago, subtract 3 from their score. If they still won, you won.
Likewise, if you bet TB, add 3, if they still lost, you lost, but if they win now, you win.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:14 am
I almost lost one of my fingers once when I fingered this big bitch in college. I couldnt feel the top of my index for a week. So Miz you may be right.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:16 am
sounds like a perfect story for “There’s Nothing To Click Here” over @ MLJ so write it up and send it in to RexKramerCougarBanger.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:33 am
Dammit, I always am gone when Maggs starts his weekly strikes from TBL.
September 18th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
All the Vikings need now is a quarterback named Ned.