Tim Brando of CBS: “Flawed BCS System”
College Football, Media Gossip/Musings October 13th. 2008, 12:00pm
Unofficially, Tim Brando of CBS cast the first stone against the crummy and convoluted BCS system that everyone despises greatly. At some point during Georgia-Tennessee, CBS cut to the studio and Brando showed a highlight or two of the Texas victory over Oklahoma. Though we don’t have the exact wording, Brando talked about the inevitable logjam of teams in the mix for the title game and called the morass a “flawed BCS system,” which made us chuckle.
Texas and Alabama are universally considered No. 1 and No. 2, though not necessarily in that order. But the Longhorns have four ranked opponents remaining on the schedule, and maybe the league title game; Alabama has two ranked opponents left and perhaps the SEC title game.
Which is why, right now, the team with the inside track to the title game is USC, which has quietly crept to No. 4 because, ostensibly, they have the best players. Since losing at Oregon State, the Trojans have dismantled two average Pac-10 teams, and the combined record of their remaining opponents is 19-23. Only one of their four remaining road opponents has a winning record.
We mock the Big 10 plenty, and with good reason (weak athletes, Michigan, Rich Rodriguez, Ohio State, etc) – but for the remainder of this season, we’re shifting all those jokes to the Pac 10, which is downright abysmal right now. All that talk earlier this season about USC maybe going unbeaten and not playing for the national title? The opposite will be true – the Trojans will play for the title despite being in the worst major conference in the country.
Today, we’d guess that opponent might be Penn State, which appears to have enough offense to beat Ohio State in a few weeks in Columbus, and doesn’t have to play a league title game. But don’t hold us to that – if you ask us next Monday, we might say BYU. We’d calmly write that a playoff is absolutely necessary, but calm, rational, and BCS are not allowed to reside in the same sentence.
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October 13th, 2008 at 12:02 PM
all you cocksuckers are going to be begging for notre dame to beat usc in a few weeks
October 13th, 2008 at 12:04 PM
USC, which has quietly crept to No. 4 because, ostensibly, they have the best players.
Are the BCS rankings run by Rivals.com now?
October 13th, 2008 at 12:05 PM
I have no problem with Penn State and USC in the Rose Bowl. Keep them away from the title game.
October 13th, 2008 at 12:06 PM
If last season is any indication, the BCS Championship will be between a 2 loss OU team and a 2 loss Florida team. Who knows what will happen in the next 6 weeks.
That said, what a great 8-team playoff it would be this year. I think the NCAA would still roll in money with a playoff system.
October 13th, 2008 at 12:06 PM
So no one liner on Romo being Hurt? CRM was all over this.
October 13th, 2008 at 12:07 PM
National Title game will feature USC v Ohio State. Really, that is what it is going to take to get rid of this BCS crap.
October 13th, 2008 at 12:07 PM
Penn State will not lose again, that includes the title game.
Didn’t you know august, that game in January is meaningless, the real winner is determined by the draft in April.
October 13th, 2008 at 12:07 PM
Toledo would have a shot, but they don’t have any quality wins.
October 13th, 2008 at 12:08 PM
Please ignore “again”. They will not lose, at all.
October 13th, 2008 at 12:09 PM
USC will lose again.
October 13th, 2008 at 12:10 PM
Damn right I’ll pray for Notre Dame to beat USC. And if the BCS Title Game features USC and Ohio State, I think we should storm the Bastille that is the NCAA HQ to tar and feather the top brass.
October 13th, 2008 at 12:11 PM
USC will lose again.
This is true. I see Florida/Penn State
October 13th, 2008 at 12:12 PM
Coop can you really be that confident that Penn State will roll to a national title?
October 13th, 2008 at 12:13 PM
I don’t know if it’s worse than the Big East or the ACC. There should only be one automatic bid between the 3 of them.
October 13th, 2008 at 12:13 PM
this won’t happen. why? watch the MSU/OSU game this weekend.
October 13th, 2008 at 12:14 PM
I suppose USC could lose at home to Cal or at Stanford, but I just can’t see it happening.
October 13th, 2008 at 12:14 PM
I like that confidence coop
October 13th, 2008 at 12:14 PM
Pac-10 is absolute garbage, especially WSU and UW. Every major sports team in the State of Washington is horrible, I would like someone to show me a region who’s sports are in worse shape, from the Sonics moving to OKC, the Mariners being the 1st team w/ $100 million dollar payroll to lose 100 games, and the Seahawks being a bottom of the barrel NFL team its just been a tough year.
At least the Storm made the playoffs…
October 13th, 2008 at 12:14 PM
If PSU does win the NT (gasp!), will Joe Pa retire have just had his best season in 15 years?
October 13th, 2008 at 12:14 PM
*having
October 13th, 2008 at 12:16 PM
I thought he’s been dead for the last 12 months? They’re Weekend at Bernie’ing him this entire season.
Or is that Duckworth?
October 13th, 2008 at 12:16 PM
Fuck me sideways Hits just keep on coming for the Cowboys
October 13th, 2008 at 12:19 PM
There is no way a one-loss Big Ten team is making the BCS Title game. Even over a 2-loss SEC or Big 12 team.
October 13th, 2008 at 12:19 PM
Note:Romo’s broken Pinkie is the new Kevin Duckworth is dead.
October 13th, 2008 at 12:20 PM
@Tampa: Come on, man. That stuff is supposed to happen organically.
BTW, did you hear about Romo’s finger?
October 13th, 2008 at 12:21 PM
OSU > PSU
you’ll see.
October 13th, 2008 at 12:22 PM
PSU always blows a road game during one loss years (see Michigan a few years ago), I’d guess it will be in Columbus
October 13th, 2008 at 12:22 PM
Gonna be Texas vs Florida for all the marbles.
October 13th, 2008 at 12:23 PM
JoePa wins the title and he is absolutely gone. Even with any big BCS bowl win, I think he retires. If he comes back it’s only because next year will be his 60th season at Penn St.
October 13th, 2008 at 12:25 PM
I don’t think Texas gets through Missouri, Oklahoma St, and @ Texas Tech unscathed. They do get a tie-breaker over Oklahoma, but that means a rematch with Missouri. We could actually see Oklahoma coming out of the Big 12 with one loss after not winning their conference championship.
October 13th, 2008 at 12:26 PM
Clemson just fired Bowden. And to think that Arkansas tried to hire that suck.
October 13th, 2008 at 12:27 PM
I just looked at the rankings for the first time today and Im thinking Oklahoma state should be ranked higher than USC Today.
Sorry nick thought a quick memo would get people up to speed.
October 13th, 2008 at 12:27 PM
Right now it’s setting up to be a disaster for the system – like we’re talking Chris Todd levels of disaster. But I bet something retarded happens and Florida ends up playing USC in the title game so all the President’s can go – “See it works!”
October 13th, 2008 at 12:27 PM
Funny how people are back on the Florida bandwagon. Though if they beat Georgia, it’s pretty easy until the SEC Championship. A Florida-Alabama game would be fantastic.
October 13th, 2008 at 12:28 PM
Ark. Wow thats crazy… Terry is available
October 13th, 2008 at 12:28 PM
TOMMY BOWDEN BROKE ROMO’S PINKY!
October 13th, 2008 at 12:29 PM
Seems like it would be a pretty good job. Any high-profile coaches (or up-and-comers) being mentioned as possibilities?
October 13th, 2008 at 12:31 PM
TOMMY BOWDEN BROKE ROMO’S PINKY!
was this before or after he killed Kevin Duckworth
October 13th, 2008 at 12:31 PM
ritty. That was the sorriest excuse for an offense that I have ever seen in my life. People around me at the game were leaving before Auburn even went down because they knew they weren’t going to score.
October 13th, 2008 at 12:32 PM
Breaking News from TBL
October 13th, 2008 at 12:39 PM
Lane Kiffin. Book it.
October 13th, 2008 at 12:39 PM
“Flawed system” yawn.
Remember, every week is an elimination tournament!
Unless other teams lose and you keep beating creampuffs and make people think that your loss was so early in the season that it doesn’t matter.
October 13th, 2008 at 12:41 PM
Stop blaming OSU for last year, how about you guys blame USC and West Virginia? You know, the teams that controlled their own destiny and LOST..
October 13th, 2008 at 12:41 PM
I disagree with anyone looking at the polls right now. the voters have made it clear that the final rankings won’t just be “well number one lost so we must move up everyone else”
If that was the case michigan would have played for the title two years ago. If it comes down to a one loss USC team who’s only loss was to Oregon state or a one loss Georgia or Alabama team who’s one loss could be against a top 10 team they’ll put them in ahead of USC.
The last poll is the only one that matters.
October 13th, 2008 at 12:43 PM
That’s a good call. But I could see him taking Willingham’s spot in Washington to stay on the West Coast.
October 13th, 2008 at 12:45 PM
It’s not who you can lose to, it’s who you can beat.
October 13th, 2008 at 12:48 PM
cursed…you realize that would require objectivity and awareness right? something rarely found in college football discussions.
October 13th, 2008 at 12:50 PM
Well a one lose Georgia team would have beaten LSU, Florida and the SEC championship game opponent. Alabama would have beaten Georgia, maybe LSU and an SEC title game opponent.
USC’s only name win would be against Ohio state with Boeckman playing. I think it’s pretty obvious who’s resume is better.
October 13th, 2008 at 12:51 PM
@NSR: I could also see him taking the Tennessee job when fat Phil gets fired. Also heard a rumor about Kiffin going to Syracuse. I like Kiffin a lot and will root for him wherever he goes.
October 13th, 2008 at 12:52 PM
True RS27, but let’s hold the phone and wait to see how good LSU is, their only win is over now unranked Auburn. Florida is looking kinda/sorta legit, although that defense is very average.
I do think USC’s defense is one of the best in the country, and they have the skill guys to beat the crap out of anyone.
October 13th, 2008 at 12:55 PM
Not sure how Florida’s defense is merely average–especially their run defense which held Heisman sleeper Scott to 35 yards on 12 rushes.
October 13th, 2008 at 12:56 PM
What will be fun to watch is if Texas loses to Missouri next week. You can’t have OU ahead of a one-loss Texas so what do you do? You are going to have to drop OU (even if they win) or you only drop Texas 3 spots. How Texas is #1 is beyond me but they are and should they lose to Mizzou I cannot wait to see what the pollsters do.
October 13th, 2008 at 12:58 PM
People shouldn’t blame OSU…they should mock OSU.
October 13th, 2008 at 12:59 PM
you guys really think an osu/usc title game would kill the system? if anything it would make it stronger. if you think that the ncaa is going to change their ways when they can continue to get the biggest, richest, and most popular programs in their showcase game you are fucking retarded
October 13th, 2008 at 1:00 PM
True Mole, not to mention the Big 10 and the Pac 10 are two of the biggest obstacles in preventing a playoff.
October 13th, 2008 at 1:00 PM
BYU vs. Oklahoma St. would be much worse for the BCS than USC-OSU.
October 13th, 2008 at 1:02 PM
bingo
the ncaa has zero interest in the best game or the best teams playing, they want the best revenue stream. and making it so that big conference teams can back in to the title game allows for that. they will not change it
October 13th, 2008 at 1:02 PM
Jimmy can do it.
October 13th, 2008 at 1:03 PM
Anytime Ohio comes out ahead you know the system is flawed.
October 13th, 2008 at 1:03 PM
Hey Gods, their are about 118 teams that would love to be OSU. Should teams like Tennesee and Auburn really be mocking us? Or should we be mocking them?
October 13th, 2008 at 1:05 PM
OSU fans are easily ticked off. Look, you guys have shit the bed in 3 consecutive marquee games. I know that will make you guys pissed but at least you should be able to take a joke.
October 13th, 2008 at 1:09 PM
Tommy Bowden Firing link
October 13th, 2008 at 1:09 PM
I get my humor lessons from TBL.
October 13th, 2008 at 1:15 PM
brando is a hypocrite. he’s been screaming for a playoff (who hasn’t?) and short of that college football should go back to the dark ages where there could be four or five undefeated teams after the bowl games are over.
brando, like any reasonable college football fan, brando knows there won’t be a playoff system of any sort for the next 15 years or until jim delany dies.
college presidents don’t want a playoff. to expect them to agree to a playoff is like expecting obama to be in favor of a flat tax proposal or pat buchanan to be in favor of abortion. it just isn’t happening.
so brando wants to go back to the dark ages which is preposterous. i became a fan of college football when the powers that be decided to at least settle on a championship-type game.
going back to the old system where there could be multiple undefeated teams is little more than mental masterbation. what’s the point?
is the bcs flawed? of course it is. but it’s worlds better than the old system.
do i want to see ohio state in the championship game? no. but what are the buckeyes supposed to do, tank games? please.
October 13th, 2008 at 1:17 PM
cursed- yeah, I still think no one is getting out of the SEC with only one loss, just throwing that out there that just because USC is 4 doesn’t mean they just need 2 teams in front of them to lose. Lots of room for people to move up. Florida jumped 8 spots this week.
October 13th, 2008 at 1:20 PM
I went to lunch, but Diesel, yes, I am very confident, Clark is a great QB who doesn’t get all the Big 12 QB pub because PSU actually runs the ball and don’t throw 50 times a game.
I agree with several people who said a 1 loss B10 team has no chance, absolutely correct. However if PSU wins out, no way a one loss USC/FLA/Whoever is going to jump them.
October 13th, 2008 at 1:21 PM
I agree with this statement. Alabama is very good on each line but they are bound to run into a team (maybe LSU) that will stuff the run and not commit insane penalties like UGA did. I thought UGA had a shot at 11 wins going into the year but with both OT’s out for the year and thier stud DT gone for the year they simply don’t have the lines to get through Vandy, @LSU and FLA the next three weeks. Florida looked great on Sat but they have looked average a lot more than excellent thus far. I would not be surprised to see Florida win the SEC with 2 losses though.
October 13th, 2008 at 1:26 PM
However it is because there aren’t any great teams, not because the SEC is great. There are many bad teams in that conference right now, and the rest are good, not great.
October 13th, 2008 at 1:39 PM
yes, we get easily ticked off for a variety of reasons:
1. other teams choked…yet, it’s just OSU’s fault
2. what other team PLAYED well enough to vault over OSU? none, because if they PLAYED well enough, they would’ve actually, you know, WON.
3. there are better targets…such as Oklahoma who hasn’t won a big game in years other than beating mack brown. such as the pac-10 who is a much worse conference than the big 10.
4. if there was a modicrum of originality in the insults, we’d most likely find it funny…too bad there isn’t
OSU isn’t in the picture…they’re not going to be this year…move on and stop talking about them unless it relates to their play on the field.
October 13th, 2008 at 1:41 PM
Aub, UT, MSU and ARK are very bad…but who else? Kentucky is pretty solid as is South Carolina and Ole Miss. Florida, UGA and Bama have the potential to be great if they can get consistent. The Big 12, for example, has Texas, OU, Missouri, OK St. and Texas Tech as their top dogs. Who here actually believes TT is a top 10 team? Who hear actually believes Ok St. will finish with less than 3 losses? The Big 12 is also home to some very bad teams. Kansas State, TAMU, Baylor, Iowa State and Nebraska are all bad…some really bad. Kansas is good but not great and Colorado is living off beating a bad WVU team on a last second FG at home. I still think, top-to-bottom, the SEC is a better conference. The Big 12 has all of the flash but very little (if any) defense.
October 13th, 2008 at 1:44 PM
OSU’s play on the field reminds me of poo. PSU will put that poo in a bag, light it on fire, and stomp on it. Sadly the smell of this poo could haunt us at the end of the season when morons claim a 1 loss team from another conference is better, mainly because of the stench of OSU. Thanks for that.
October 13th, 2008 at 1:45 PM
I totally agree with all of the above. Stoops must have something shady on the mainstream media because he seems to get off of what has been a number of big game chokes/ass kickings. As for Mack Brown…I think he is the most overrated coach in football. When you look at what he has won at Texas for as long as he has been there it makes you wonder if he is underachieving. Winning 10 games a year at Texas is actually pretty easy. Take away Vince Young and Mack may not even be the coach of Texas right now. And yes, the Pac 10 is a joke.
October 13th, 2008 at 1:45 PM
South Carolina and Ole Miss look very ordinary to me. There’s zero potential to be “great” from those teams. They are no better than Michigan State, Minnesota or Northwestern this year.
October 13th, 2008 at 1:51 PM
cursed: you don’t think UGA, Florida or Bama could be great by the end of the year? Why? Also, if you think Minnesota or Northwestern could hang with Ole Miss or score on South Carolina you are nuts. Michigan State yes, they are the 4th best (or 3rd best) team in the big 10. I would hope they could beat the 6th or 7th team in the SEC.
October 13th, 2008 at 1:51 PM
Zac Robinson > Daryll Clark…..
Clark is the guy who got knocked silly against Michigan a couple years ago right? Dude had the biggest eyes I have ever seen after that hit. Even funnier cuz he was the 2nd QB that Penn St. lost that game.
October 13th, 2008 at 1:53 PM
two thoughts…
a. that was one of the funniest things i’ve ever read and it made total sense…kudos.
b. stench? chances are good, PSU is OSU’s only loss for the rest of the season. beating a 10-2 team on the road is a BAD thing? plus, PSU is losing anyways, so why even think about it?
October 13th, 2008 at 1:55 PM
believe it or not…minnesota isn’t too bad. a lot better than people give them credit for.
October 13th, 2008 at 1:57 PM
That was Micheal Robinson, now a fullback in the NFL, but they are both black, sooo, um yeah.
October 13th, 2008 at 1:59 PM
You do realize its shit like this that makes everyone hate the SEC. South Carolina is terrible. Ole Miss is terrible. Statements like that are ridiculous and are disproven every single year but stupid people continue to say it.
October 13th, 2008 at 2:02 PM
I must have misread, I do think Florida or UGA have the potential to be great..yes. But Ole Miss and South Carolina… not very good at all. Your conference is nowhere near as good as it was top to bottom last season.
October 13th, 2008 at 2:05 PM
yup.
this would be news to fred akers, david mcwilliams and john mackovic.
October 13th, 2008 at 2:06 PM
i think it was clark. morelli got hurt and wasn’t clark his backup two years ago? i do know psu was down to the no. 3 quarterback at the end of the game.
right now clark is making robinson look bad.
October 13th, 2008 at 2:07 PM
Their offense is terrible…their defense is damn good. Don’t confuse one for the other. They have a top 10 defense in terms of talent. They, much like Auburn and Tennessee, simply have an embarrassing offense.
October 13th, 2008 at 2:08 PM
it was clark. all three qb’s played that game
October 13th, 2008 at 2:10 PM
So because Brown follows average coaches that makes him great? If Carroll, Tressel, Meyer or Stoops had the head job at Texas do you think they would have one title game and one Big 12 title win?
October 13th, 2008 at 2:10 PM
Robinson had already graduated….this was the year after Penn St’s 1 good year in 15. Clark was the guy who got knocked out after that dumb italian QB got knocked out. I know all black people look alike to us whites, but im pretty sure it was Clark.
I think he came in right after this http://info.detnews.com/pix/sports/2006/um/UMvPSU_1014/UMvPSU12.jpg
October 13th, 2008 at 2:13 PM
jimmy…so beating OSU is a bad thing to have on a resume? wow…color yourself retarded…seriously, maybe PSU should’ve scheduled a halfway decent OOC game or given some of their recruits to other big 10 schools so they’d have a better in conference slate to hang their hat on.
jesus fucking christ…is there ANYTHING not OSU’s fault?
October 13th, 2008 at 2:19 PM
jesus christ spencer are you that thin-skinned? i was sticking up for ohio state. damn man, do you try to interpret everything as being anti-osu???
i swear you read an obama/mccain poll and somehow try to figure out how the numbers reflect how both candidates hate osu.
chill dude. chill!
and if by chance i did hate osu (i don’t) exactly how are my posts going to make the buckeyes play any better/worse?
re-LAX man.
October 13th, 2008 at 2:23 PM
1) i didn’t say brown was great. he’s now as bad as stoops as a big-game coach.
2) i believe texans have a long memory. compared to his three predacessors, brown is damned near bear bryant in longhorns’ eyes.
October 13th, 2008 at 2:24 PM
Who’s talking shit about Lebron and the Cavs???
October 13th, 2008 at 2:25 PM
50/50 spurrier quits after this season.
October 13th, 2008 at 2:26 PM
jimmy…sorry man, i misinterpreted your statement.
and mccain hates OSU…which is why im voting for obama.
/not true
October 13th, 2008 at 2:27 PM
that’s because he doesn’t play in big games (without VY).
October 13th, 2008 at 2:29 PM
I could see both Fulmer and Spurrier gone by the end of the year. Spurrier has half-assed his way through the last few years and probably realizes that he will never win big at SC…too much competition for someone who hates recruiting.
October 13th, 2008 at 2:29 PM
gods, what is with your fasination with South Carolina and Ole Miss? I know I may be an Arkansas homer, but those two teams are no better or worse that Arkansas is. We play Ole Miss at home in 2 weeks and at South Carolina in 4 weeks. Arkansas will win one, possibly both of those games. What exactly have those teams done to impress you? Ok, Ole Miss beat Florida when Florida played about as shity as they possibly could play. They have also beat Samford and Memphis, that is quite the resume.
October 13th, 2008 at 2:29 PM
cool. i know that’s the second time you blasted me for being a buckeye hater… and i’m not, not at all.
i too get tired of the whining about ohio state. it’s like people expect the buckeyes to tank games so they won’t make the bcs title game. how about other teams winning an extra game or two? it’s not osu’s fault 80 percent of the big ten blows. it’s not osu’s fault jim delany is stubborn.
October 13th, 2008 at 2:32 PM
Bingo. Texas may be the best job in the country when you think about it and Brown has 1…ONE!!…conference title. Ridiculous.
October 13th, 2008 at 2:34 PM
jimmy…amen brother. i’ll try not to flip shit again…at least towards you.
gods…i never understood how someone who has the pick of the litter IN TEXAS could have such an awful resume. but as long as he keeps shaking booster hands and kissing booster babies and lining pockets, he’ll be safe.
October 13th, 2008 at 2:35 PM
Arkansas is the worst team in the SEC dude. I know Petrino will eventually put them on the map (unless he bolts) but right now they are bad. They just beat a reeling Auburn team that may enventually take ARK’s place at the bottom of the SEC. Ole Miss has a chance to get much better by the end of the year and South Carolina has a sick defense. I am not fans of either team (I hate SC) but they have some talent…it is just all on one side of the ball. As for Ole Miss, Sneed is going to be a badass and Hardy and Powell make for a nasty combo on the line. They are young at crucial spots and still learning how Nutt wants them to play.
October 13th, 2008 at 2:40 PM
October 13th, 2008 at 2:42 PM
I agree that Arkansas isn’t good, but Auburn is awful, like you said. I just think that if you are going to give Ole miss a pass at being young then you have to do the same for Arkansas. The team that I saw against Auburn last Saturday was 100 times better than anything I have seen this year and I’ve watched or been at every game. Not too mention they have started 16 true freshman so far this year. I’m not that sold on S. Carolina yet, I think their D is pretty good, but they haven’t played anyone with all that great of an Offense, and they have a history of choking in the 2nd half of the year.
October 13th, 2008 at 2:42 PM
until he bolts would have been a better word choice.
October 13th, 2008 at 2:43 PM
cursed – You will change your mind after South Carolina beats LSU this Saturday
October 13th, 2008 at 2:45 PM
Keep the Texas hate coming, Gods. It seems to work well for the Longhorns.
October 13th, 2008 at 2:52 PM
now there’s a man with a plan
October 13th, 2008 at 2:54 PM
I don’t hate and am not hating on Texas. I am simply pointing out that Brown has one big 12 title in his 8+ years at Texas. That is the definition of underachieving.
October 13th, 2008 at 3:01 PM
i hate texas and i’ll keep the hate going for everyone.
let me amend that…i hate mack brown, the unversity and football team are fine. but that smarmy mack brown…he’s got another thing comin.
October 13th, 2008 at 3:10 PM
/said through clenched teeth while shaking a fist
October 13th, 2008 at 3:57 PM
Because Jim Tressell isn’t smarmy? Pot meet kettle……