Eleven Things We Think We Thought Sunday Night While Pondering NFL Happenings
NFL November 17th. 2008, 8:45am
1. Titans vs. Giants: Are there two plodding inexorably toward a Super Bowl matchup? They are clearly the two best teams in football. We’d defend the Giants thusly – stack the line against the terrifying Earth, Wind and Fire trio (props to Brandon Jacobs for that one), and hope Eli makes mistakes. Ditto for the Titans, although the reinvetion of Kerry Collins continues to befuddle bloggers, analysts and, we’re fairly certain, anyone who watches football.
2. Detroit: So who do the Lions beat at home, Tampa Bay, Minnesota or New Orleans? Come on, you know they’re not going undefeated. winless.
3. Our 2009 Surprise May Not Need a QB: It is certainly too small a sample size, but Tyler Thigpen of the Chiefs has now performed exceptionally (8 TDs, one int) in consecutive games against the Jets, Bucs, Chargers and Saints (four playoff teams?) and perhaps the Chiefs can spend next year’s high draft pick on a pass-rush artist instead of a QB, because they have a league-low six sacks. Or a run stopper to play alongside Glenn Dorsey – they also have the league’s worst rush defense. Are you think Orakpo from Texas or Hardy from Ole Miss?
4. Why? Do West Coast teams always seem to lose when they travel East? They’re something like 0-13 this season.
5. Why? Does NBC’s Andrea Kramer always seem to ask the most painfully-obvious questions before and after games? Pam Oliver, she’s not. When Kramer asked Tony Romo what the “importance” was for the Cowboys-Redskins game, he should have laughed and said, “come on, Andrea, do you even need to ask?”
6. QBs Under Scrutiny. Slightly deceiving, since we’re not saying they’re jobs are in jeopardy, but without question, scrutiny will be heaped on the following signal callers this week: Phil Rivers of San Diego, Donovan McNabb of Philly, and Jake Delhomme of Carolina. Rivers has thrown six picks in the last four games (two losses), meaning the Chargers have to beat Indy next week. McNabb threw three picks and fumbled in Cincy, and the Eagles could only muster a tie because the offense was so dreadful. Delhomme figures to go under the microscope because since carving up the Cardinals, he’s had two dreadful games in victories over the Raiders and Lions, and somebody’s certain to say he’s the difference between 8-2 Carolina challenging the Giants for the NFC crown and being upset in the first round. Add Trent Edwards to the list if the Bills lose tonight
7. The Worst. Not under scrutiny because he’s not any good: Sage Rosenfels. If Sage is the quarterback, it is the fourth quarter, and the Colts are the opponent, chalk it up as a loss.
8. Just Wince, Baby: It has been 13 quarters since Oakland has scored an offensive touchdown. Notable occurences since JaMarcus Russell found Justin Griffin for a score back in October: Greg Oden’s first NBA points, a black President-elect and the Phillies won the World Series. (Hat tip: Dan Patrick.)
9. Denver. So Jay Cutler orchestrates late drives to beat Cleveland and Atlanta on the road, and we’re sure everyone’s going to be on his stick again. If they can win at the Jets, Carolina or Chargers, we’ll consider believing; win two of those and we’ll actually believe.
10. Special. Minnesota’s fourth quarter in Tampa: fumbled kickoff, 4-and-out, fumble. To recap: Zero first downs, two fumbles, loss.
11. Playoffs: We got New York, Washington, Dallas, Minnesota, Carolina and Arizona in the NFC. Tampa lost head-to-head with Dallas, or it could have snuck in. In the AFC: New York, Miami, Pittsburgh, Tennessee, Denver, San Diego. Weird. We feel less confident about the AFC – New England’s schedule isn’t difficult, and Indy probably should be in there. Tough to eliminate Baltimore yet. Compounding matters, we’re just putting the Jets in there because we like them. Heart over head is always a bad move.
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November 17th, 2008 at 8:47 AM
Good call.
November 17th, 2008 at 8:48 AM
Come on, you know they’re not going undefeated.
We knew that after week 1
November 17th, 2008 at 8:50 AM
For the love of God, let your blind love of the Chargers die. They’re 4-6. The Colts are 6-4 and have yet to play the Bengals, the Lions or the Browns. Both the Broncos and Chargers are not beating them out for a playoff spot. Indy plays at San Diego this week, so I guess we’ll see on the field.
November 17th, 2008 at 8:55 AM
this is the best prediction of the year. you have big balls.
November 17th, 2008 at 8:57 AM
-1
No mention of the Bengals heroic tie versus the Iggles, against all odds?
November 17th, 2008 at 8:58 AM
I have to agree with bsanders, only one team from the AFC West is getting in, make the choice, Denver or San Diego, not both
November 17th, 2008 at 9:02 AM
2. Detroit: So who do the Lions beat at home, Tampa Bay, Minnesota or New Orleans? Come on, you know they’re not going undefeated.
They will beat Minnesota.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:03 AM
You mean to tell me a football game can end in a tie?
November 17th, 2008 at 9:05 AM
Greg Oden’s first NBA points
Hype Machine makes it into the NFL recap
November 17th, 2008 at 9:05 AM
@Mike: Depends on who you ask.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:06 AM
it’ll die with a loss this week.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:06 AM
Can someone tell my why I was watching some ugly broad from the Today show and hearing some Bruce Springstein song last night during halftime when I should have been viewing highlights. Fuck NBC.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:07 AM
Irish – come back for Ballin. Major love for Oden.
I’ll save the Dwight comments for that post, too.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:07 AM
if SD beats Indy this weekend, it is just one game back. If they tie, SD goes to the playoffs.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:09 AM
I’m going to pull a Peter Vecesy: What if Bill Cower took over the Raiders? That would bring some credibility to the franchise right? I mean, Al has to know that he is the reason the team is so screwed up right now. What if he stepped out of the way and let someone else take charge, and just signed the checks?
Or sold the team to Mark Cuban. That would make me happy too.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:11 AM
TBL…d00d…get an editor.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:11 AM
Because most of the West Coast teams suck this year? Seriously, that’s your answer.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:12 AM
OK…one reporter is lying on a quote by Giants C Shaun O’Hara.
Newsday’s Bob Glauber:
“To be honest, our game plan was to throw the ball,” center Shaun O’Hara confided afterward. “We came in talking about making big plays in the passing game. Obviously, the game went a little differently.”
Peter King in MMQB:
“To be honest with you,” center Shaun O’Hara said after the game, “our game plan was to run the ball.”
My guess is King, based on Glauber’s quote. Unless O’Hara told two reportes two different things…
November 17th, 2008 at 9:13 AM
standalone post later.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:13 AM
Not going to happen – Bill talked a few of his assistants out of interviewing for the Raiders job opening(s) because he knew how much of a shitshow Davis was/is
November 17th, 2008 at 9:15 AM
Is McNabb is an idiot for not knowing that there are ties in the NFL? I think so.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:15 AM
True. But Indy would still be 6-5 with the Browns, the Bengals, the Lions, the Jags, and the Titans on the schedule. They could easily go 4-1 with that schedule. Then again, I think they’ll beat the Chargers so it won’t matter.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:16 AM
Cowher to the Lions. Lately I have been thinking about if the Lions got rid of Millen last year and got Parcells.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:16 AM
No way the Chargers make the playoffs
November 17th, 2008 at 9:19 AM
My favorite part of the Mcnabb quote was him worrying about playoff games and Superbowls ending in ties. There are no words..
November 17th, 2008 at 9:20 AM
If Cowher goes anywhere – it will be Cleveland.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:20 AM
right division wrong team. hes taking over the chargers when norv gets fired.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:21 AM
Yeah, I know. It was just a small glimmer of made up hope. This is what its like to be a Raiders fan right now.
Who did Cower talk out of it? I don’t remember Ken Whisenhunt or Russ Grim being targeted for the job, but maybe they just turned Al down flat out. I can’t even imagine who they will bring in next year, even if Jim Fassel writes Al love letters.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:21 AM
baltimore and atlanta are frauds.
especially baltimore. and atlanta.
frauds.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:21 AM
I still don’t understand how the Chargers are going to get in with a losing record.
You should probably just ignore the Chargers, TBL. Norv still coaches them. They aren’t going anywhere.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:23 AM
I just threw up a little in my mouth. If my team didn’t suck enough, this would ensure they sucked for a while longer. I honestly fear this result.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:23 AM
I think I really should avoid the site all day today.
Just when you thought the Eagles couldn’t possibly find a way to devastate their fans in any new ways…
November 17th, 2008 at 9:24 AM
Raiders attempted to interview Whis – but he turned them down flat.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:27 AM
The Steelers have now been involved in the 3 lowest scoring games in the NFL this year. (SD, Philly, CLE)
/Take the under
November 17th, 2008 at 9:27 AM
The Raiders must be like that financial firm in the movie with Vin Diesel. Just a place only scumbags/hustlers/hacks would want to work for.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:27 AM
Thats also they answer to, “why do all the teams in the AFC east have winning records, even though they suck?”
November 17th, 2008 at 9:27 AM
good point, its quite possible the raiders are just an elaborate pyramid scheme
November 17th, 2008 at 9:28 AM
In the AFC.. Indy gets one wild card, NE wins the division, and the other wild card will come down to Jets-Dolphins the last week of the year. Bank it!
November 17th, 2008 at 9:28 AM
this has been bookmarked.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:28 AM
I do kind of remember that now. There was still talk in Raiders circles that they would go after Grim but he went to AZ with Whis. Good decision by both. And good mentoring by Cower to talk them out of it (I’m sure this wasn’t a long talk).
Roeth, do you think the Steelers would be any better had Whis took over instead of Tomlin?
November 17th, 2008 at 9:29 AM
baltimore and atlanta are frauds.
especially baltimore. and atlanta.
frauds.
Baltimore is not a fraud. Giants just beat their ass.
Atlanta sucks Matty Ice is a cock.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:29 AM
McNabb is a major dumbass. Maybe TO should have called his IQ into question.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:29 AM
why?
November 17th, 2008 at 9:30 AM
Boiler Room. Solid movie.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:31 AM
Oh my god McNabb is a dumb ass! I think you guys are taking this overboard. Hes a football player not a politician. Get off his ass.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:31 AM
TBL loves the Jets…but he enjoys spooning with the Cowboys and frequent makeout sessions with the Chargers.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:31 AM
I’ll trade JaMarcus Russel for Matt Ryan straight up.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:32 AM
Thank you Rocketsfan.
/
Renting on Netflix
November 17th, 2008 at 9:33 AM
Baltimore is a fraud because they have 1 win over a team with a winning record, Miami. Now they schedule gets tough (hello NFC east) and they are about to fall apart.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:33 AM
Yes and no. I think the change in leadership from the Cowher era has “rejuvenated” the team some. But, despite how good our O was last year, I think we’d be more consistent on offense with Whis running the show. Our offense this year, save for the first game against Houston, has been debacled.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:33 AM
He is a dumb ass because he is a black QB.
/Rush Limbaugh’d
November 17th, 2008 at 9:34 AM
unless tomlin is responsible for the offensive line sucking, i dont think theyd be much different. as long as dicky b is still there.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:35 AM
I’ll trade JaMarcus Russel for Matt Ryan straight up.
No way I said hes a cock not a good QB.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:36 AM
McNabb also thinks Africa is a country rather than a continent.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:37 AM
as much as brady quinn gets made fun of for draft day dont you think he is so happy it worked out the way it did? solid pick by the raiders though, black jared lorenzen cant go wrong there.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:37 AM
Tampa you are right that it is not that big of a deal BUT, I’ve been watching football for as long as I can remember and I distinctly remember knowing you can tie if no one scores in OT when I was 7. Maybe he would have known better had he been more concerned about driving the eagles down to field to tie the Pats in the SB instead of vomiting.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:37 AM
@TB: It helps to know the rules of the game you’re playing. I didn’t see the game, but what if there were 30 seconds left and instead of hurrying to get down the field to score, he just mosied up to the line and the clock ran out?
November 17th, 2008 at 9:38 AM
I obviously don’t follow Pittsburgh as close as you do, but I would chalk that up to 2 things: the O-line sucking and Parker being hurt. Holmes sucking as well hasn’t helped, but the WR core is solid enough that it hasn’t mattered.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:39 AM
To be fair, he would’ve done that either way…
November 17th, 2008 at 9:40 AM
baltimore is a fraud because i hate them and they stole my goddamned fucking team.
they’re ok, i was just kidding about them being frauds. tho i think flacco is fucking awful.
atlanta is a for-real fraud (oxymoron). they’ve beaten shitty teams and are about as much a house of cards as it gets.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:40 AM
November 17th, 2008 at 9:40 AM
the entire nfc south is a fraud
November 17th, 2008 at 9:42 AM
I don’t think Russell is nearly as bad as his situation as made him out to be. I’d like to see him get some seasoning behind a decent o-line (this team can not pass block and run block is mediocre at best) and if he had someone to throw to (can anyone name their 4 WRs who suited up yesterday). Also the run game as been an absolute joke this year too. Fargas has not played well at all, McFadden hasn’t played much at all, and Michael Bush, for whatever reason, is left on the bench. Bush is probablly the best RB on the team.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:44 AM
oh no doubt, but we wont ever know
November 17th, 2008 at 9:44 AM
raiders could’ve taken joe thomas…
but thanks for letting him drop.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:45 AM
I didn’t see the game, but what if there were 30 seconds left and instead of hurrying to get down the field to score, he just mosied up to the line and the clock ran out?
Get the fuck outta here with that what if bullshit.
black jared lorenzen cant go wrong there.
Wow. This is a perfect description. Never thought of him like that.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:49 AM
They tried that “sure fire top O-lineman” thing once. His name is Robert Gallery.
/this franchise just blows.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:54 AM
yea…sad. that’s why they should’ve hired a better scouting dept. gallery had awful shuttle times and short arms…both of which spells doom for an NFL LT. thomas was off the charts in both.
i think gallery is an effective LG tho, his lack of lateral movement is negated and he doesn’t have to fan out with his arms at all…and considering his contract is right about market value for today’s G’s, he’s a fine piece to have.
November 17th, 2008 at 10:05 AM
Is it wrong that I really hope the Lions stay winless until they beat the Vikings, just so its potentially the final nail in the coffin for Brad Childress?
November 17th, 2008 at 10:10 AM
The fact that the Titans and Vandy have combined for 16 wins in mid November is almost too much for me to handle.
November 17th, 2008 at 10:19 AM
The Broncos, at worst, go 3-3 in their last six (OAK – W, @NYJ – L, KC – W, @CAR – L, BUF – W, @ SD – L), making them 9-7. I would probably also give them one of the Jets/Panthers/Chargers games, making them 10-6. The Chargers would have to go 6-0 to get to 10-6.
AFC Playoffs – Tennessee (1), Steelers (2), Jets (3), Broncos (4), Patriots (5), and Colts (6)
November 17th, 2008 at 11:31 AM
I have no problem with TBL thinking San Diego can win the AFC West, but it would be almost a miracle for Denver and San Diego to be in the playoffs.
November 17th, 2008 at 12:16 PM
Sigh. I’m not going to repeat my rant from last night about the NFC East. Please, for the love of God, I hope three NFC East teams don’t make it in. It’ll be six more weeks of NBC flexing to get NFC East division games and national 4:15 broadcast of “Insert NFC East Team here” vs. “Some Crappy other Team” actually interesting games.
ARGH.
November 17th, 2008 at 12:16 PM
Sigh. I’m not going to repeat my rant from last night about the NFC East. Please, for the love of God, I hope three NFC East teams don’t make it in. It’ll be six more weeks of NBC flexing to get NFC East division games and national 4:15 broadcast of “Insert NFC East Team here” vs. “Some Crappy other Team” instead of actually interesting games.
ARGH.