Breaking Up is Hard to Do: Marve and Miami
College Football January 6th. 2009, 6:30pm
All’s quiet on the Miami front. For now.
In your holiday slumber, perhaps you missed the tete-a-tete between the Hurricanes and their young QB, Robert Marve.
Backstory: a highly-touted QB after being tabbed Florida’s Mr. Football in 2007, Marve gave a verbal to Alabama and coach Mike Shula. Then, Shula was bounced. Marve backed out and signed with Miami. Then he redshirted due to injuries suffered in a car accident.
This year, he split time at QB with another youngster, Jacory Harris. Coaches determined Harris was their QB of the future. Then came allegations that Marve’s Stage Father (a former NFL player) contacted schools about a transfer … and next thing you know, Marve’s been released from his scholarship, but under one condition: He can’t transfer to a ton of schools.
That lengthy list was recently reduced, but Miami has prevented Marve from going to Florida, Tennessee, or LSU. After you’ve formed your opinion on the subject … take a gander at these comments. An interesting debate to say the least.
We’ve gone back and forth on this in recent days. Is Marve even that good? He’s definitely not playing at LSU in the next few years, not with the young QBs they have and the star recruit coming in. Florida? Well, now there’s only one guy to beat two years from now when Marve’s eligible. Tennessee? Seems unlikely. But the Hurricanes, at least according to this site, don’t have an SEC opponent on the schedule in the next few years. What’s the big deal if he wants to go to the SEC?
Maybe the argument could be made that if Miami gets to the title game, there’s a good chance it’ll be against an SEC team, since Florida or LSU have played in the last three BCS Championship games, and Marve has complete knowledge of the ‘Canes offensive and defensive strategies. We’d just say let the kid go wherever he wants, in the next few years, it won’t matter.
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January 6th, 2009 at 6:34 PM
how can Miami keep him from going somewhere? What can they do to him if he tried to go to one of the “no-go” schools?
January 6th, 2009 at 6:40 PM
Granted I saw one game of his, but that Shepard guy doesn’t seem like he’s going to be very good.
January 6th, 2009 at 6:43 PM
which game, fetch? the AA game in the last week?
January 6th, 2009 at 6:44 PM
Can’t he go to tOSU? They don’t have a QB…
January 6th, 2009 at 6:49 PM
Yeah TBL. He’s a fine runner, really fast, but he can’t throw. And I’m not trying to take too much out of an all star game, but not being able to throw is a pretty big issue.
January 6th, 2009 at 7:31 PM
look at osu! playing mich st tough in lansing
January 6th, 2009 at 8:09 PM
Florida-Oklahoma, Alabama-Utah, Penn St.-USC, and Texas-tOSU. All good matchups after Jan. 1st. What the fuck is Tulsa-Ball St. doing on my TV? For that matter, what was Conn-Buff doing on anytime after Christmas. I remember a time when being in a Jan. Bowl meant somethig. A undisputed nat’l champ? No, but it meant more than this crap.
January 6th, 2009 at 8:13 PM
UConn is having all sorts of problems with West Virgnia. Man Thabeet looks like he’s regressed over the course of 5 games. He looks terrible out there.
January 6th, 2009 at 8:20 PM
no students at the Breslin Center. Not playing us so tough right now. ESPN loses the feed, great!
January 6th, 2009 at 8:36 PM
If he goes to one of the schools that Miami says he can’t, then he has to pay his own way for the first year. If he goes to any other school he can be on scholarship while sitting out.
January 6th, 2009 at 8:39 PM
RS – watching as well. surprised as how bad Conn looks on offense. they dont have a scoring guard who can really create their own shot. sad.
January 6th, 2009 at 8:43 PM
TBL- The only thing worse than a guard that can’t create his own shot is a guard that can’t create his own shot but thinks he can.
UConn has a bunch of those.
January 6th, 2009 at 8:47 PM
Lol, rs. I remember a LOT of people like that when I used to play b-ball at the park.
January 6th, 2009 at 8:50 PM
TBL
- You read or link this story yet? Wasn’t sure if you had or not, but it’s pretty interesting. And pretty “sound the death knell” for the Old Gray Lady.
January 6th, 2009 at 8:54 PM
what is that garbage by #24? what a terrible drive.
Conn’s best slasher is a guy whose confidence was killed by Joe Alexander last year. Robinson looks lost.
i still believe they’ll turn it around … but their lack of offense is starting to concern me.
January 6th, 2009 at 9:00 PM
TBL, I didn’t know whether you would bring this story back up or not since both sides seem to be content with things for now. You were pretty harsh in calling coach Shannon a jerk earlier this week, you’ll never meet a nicer guy and a class act to boot. In this situation though, Coach Shannon had to put the nice, caring coach hat away and deal with this kid, or should I say deal with his father, like it was a street fight. Here you had a kid who had to redshirt his freshman year because he injured his hand in a car accident while breaking curfew. He couldn’t beat Jacory outright for the starting position this year so coach decided to platoon them until somebody separated themselves. Well, that didn’t go too well because Jacory had to come in several games and basically bail Marve’s butt out of a sling time and time again. All the while Mr. Marve decided that going to class really wasn’t that important. I wonder what he was doing with all that free time, he damn sure wasn’t studying the playbook. I think everybody knows how this story goes from there, QB gets suspended, father is accused of illegally contacting other schools, QB quits and here we are. The long and short of it is the kid may have all the physical ability in the world but until he realizes that he has to be accountable for what he does on and off the football field and find a way to keep his agent…..I mean his dad out of his business it doesn’t matter what school he transfers to, because he will still make the same mistakes. What the U did was harsh, but if the accusations are true they should be lucky with what they got.
January 6th, 2009 at 9:11 PM
Connecticut covers.
I’m on Alabama +15 at Clemson. kinda pissed the game isn’t on TV.
re: Shannon … yeah, i called him a jerk when i saw 27 schools were blocked. then the school lowered that # significantly. hence this post. but if marve stinks so much …. just cut him loose, you know? and frankly, i saw nothing out of him this year that led me to believe he’d be a star. esp not at top schools like lsu or uf.
January 6th, 2009 at 9:21 PM
Rumor has it Rey Manualagua danced with Erin Andrews on the sidelines during the Fiesta Bowl – Youtube video of this was removed. Anyone know if it’s true or not?
January 6th, 2009 at 9:23 PM
Anyone else seen “Let the Right One In”? Man, this movie is fantastic.
January 6th, 2009 at 9:24 PM
The issue isn’t about just playing against these particular teams. It’s about recruiting. SEC schools are the biggest challenger to UM for Florida recruits; UF and LSU especially. The last thing you need is a jilted QB telling possible recruits that Coach Shannon fondles puppies in the locker room. The effects in recruiting is much more powerful than anything Marve could give away in a game plan (which he can’t do, because Miami will have a new offensive coordinator next season.
This is a very common practice; coaches like Pete Carroll and Bobby Bowden have refused to grant transfers to players.
The difference, Marves’ father has made a stink about it.
January 6th, 2009 at 9:28 PM
Who has Bobby Bowden refused to let transfer? I need a name. Also I’m one step from being off the UConn bandwagon. Thabeet can’t pass out of a double team and their slashers were eaten alive by a WVU defense that has no one taller than 6′9. They got lucky that Butler was saddled with all that foul trouble.
I don’t trust Price in a big spot either. If I was a UConn fan I would be very nervous about not getting a top 4 finish and the double bye in this league.
January 6th, 2009 at 9:35 PM
Yeah it happened, I saw it before it was taken down. It’s not really that they danced, so much as she was standing with her back to him while he was walking toward the tunnel, then when he got to her he danced a little until she started to turn around.
January 6th, 2009 at 9:41 PM
There have been a lot of newbies on recently.
January 6th, 2009 at 9:43 PM
How dumb would BC be to fire Jags by the way? The guy has won 20 games in his first two years. Firing him would be Nebraska-esque, Frank-Solich-goes-9-and-3-and-gets-fired-and-is-then-replaced-by-Bill-Callahan dumb.
January 6th, 2009 at 9:44 PM
fetch – that’s a good thing. #’s up
scottie reynolds on fire, but villanova can’t put away seton hall.
January 6th, 2009 at 9:44 PM
Yeah, I think the 27 schools were excessive also and I think even Miami realized that wasn’t a good look for them. In the end he probably will be just another overhyped prep quaterback with an average college career but all in all it didn’t have to end the way it did if his Dad had just been a dad and not a superagent and start trashing the team ala Rosenhaus or Boras.
January 6th, 2009 at 9:45 PM
REMY
here’s the video you asked about
http://thebiglead.com/?p=10487
January 6th, 2009 at 9:48 PM
TBL- I like it, I was just makin an observation. Wonder where they all came from.
January 6th, 2009 at 9:53 PM
What the hell is Villanova doing? I don’t care if they win this game, they are going to be bubblelicious come tourney time. Mark it down. I don’t think they get in. Just a hunch
January 6th, 2009 at 9:57 PM
Kid, just sign the paper & leave. Then, change your first name to “Brett”, and you’re free to go wherever you want, since the contract was signed by “Robert”.
/Lionel Hutz
January 6th, 2009 at 9:58 PM
I don’t know why, but Brock Huard just rubs me the wrong way when he does studio work for ESPN.
January 6th, 2009 at 10:03 PM
Normally, you’d be right. The thing is, BC is in an enviable situation where either coordinator is more than qualified to take over with little or no drop off. The biggest mistake ECU ever made was letting a new AD fire Steve Logan and the defensive coordinator has been at BC for 12 years I think. So basically, the AD knows he’s fine no matter what going into next year and wants to assert his dominance over the program.
Anyways, just watched the 2 new scrubs episodes…the season opener was ok, but the second one was a throwback to season 1…great episode with the right mix of comedy and heart.
January 6th, 2009 at 10:12 PM
This Ball St./Tulsa game is pure comedy. Driving rainstorm, less than 10,000 fans, and nate Davis is fucking up every chance he gets. Not a good week for Whitlock.
January 6th, 2009 at 10:14 PM
Villanova has no clue. Seton Hall is playing 4 on 5 with Garcia hurt and their launching jumpers.
January 6th, 2009 at 10:14 PM
real comedy: The ep of the office right now! top 7 ep of all-time. the final five minutes are HILARIOUS. it’s all great. highly recommend.
celtics lost in OT to the bobcats, LET THE FREE FALL BEGIN!!!!!
January 6th, 2009 at 10:15 PM
*they’re
January 6th, 2009 at 10:22 PM
Just because an assistant has been at a school for a while and is “ready” to be a head coach doesn’t mean he’ll be a good one. This will become painfully clear once Bill Stewart leads WVU right into the cellar.
January 6th, 2009 at 10:31 PM
MS: “What is that?”
DS: “Blood, semen or urine?”
MS: “God I hope it’s urine.”
i know we’ve discussed this before, but those three lines have me laughing my ass off every time
January 6th, 2009 at 10:34 PM
TBL -
Classic. And Urine is the correct answer. Cleanest thing that’ll ever come out of a human body.
Nate “Best Pro Prospect QB” Davis just fumbled again. He got this one back. Flip it to EsPN for 30 seconds. This is college football bowl season!
January 6th, 2009 at 10:37 PM
Who has Bobby Bowden refused to let transfer? I need a name
rs27: How about Brandon Warren? There’s a thing called Google, and if you type in “FSU football transfers, you’ll get a few. Here’s Warren’s…
http://www.fanhouse.com/category/kansas-basketball/2007/04/30/brandon-warrens-transfer-appeal-denied-by-fsu/
Qualifiers before the post:
1. Live in South Florida but didn’t go to “the U”
2. From Buffalo, and remember Eugene Marve when he sucked (er played) for the Bills.
Jacory harris beat the kid out, fair and square. Marve had first dibs on “the keys to the car” (starting), and couldn’t close the deal. Why should Miami let the kid go anywhere he wants?
I think ND did that this year to some transfrs, and USC let Emmanuel Moody go to UF, but might have restricted him from the PAC10. Who knows how often this goes on?
January 6th, 2009 at 10:39 PM
Maybe so, but Steve Logan is a proven commodity as a head coach, so either you go with the guy that’s been around forever or the guy that got Solich’ed at ECU…either way, the program can absorb losing its headcoach alot easier than most other schools of its caliber.
January 6th, 2009 at 10:44 PM
The thing is, BC is in an enviable situation where either coordinator is more than qualified to take over with little or no drop off.
I heard on the radio today that the reason this blew up is the AD hired “Jags” because after the Jim O’Brien mess and lawsuit, “Jags” assured him he wouldn’t leave for any reason, and the AD wanted stability for his coaches, because BC can’t/won’t compete & pay like “big” schools.
Also, “Jags” got the word about the interview, didn’t tell anyone at BC, and went AWOL over the weekend, until the press came to the AD and blindsided him about Jags and the Jets, which the AD knew nothing about, which totally pissed the AD off.
The guy said THAT’S the main reason he wants to can the coach.
January 6th, 2009 at 10:44 PM
Andy Bernard rules.
“Saboteur! I’m going to kill you for real. The game is over.”
January 7th, 2009 at 8:39 AM
well said Chris P
If he goes to one of the schools that Miami says he can’t, then he has to pay his own way for the first year. If he goes to any other school he can be on scholarship while sitting out
exactly
the good posts always come later in the day. damnit
January 7th, 2009 at 8:52 AM
Marve will screw up at the next school he goes to