Klitschko Among Greatest Heavyweight Boxers in the Last 20 Years?
Boxing March 24th. 2009, 1:00pm
A couple of readers who follow boxing noted that despite Vitali Klitschko’s convincing victory last weekend – he’s been the dominant heavyweight since 2003, although he’s just 5-0 since the unfortunate loss to Lennox Lewis – he’s never going to be considered among the greatest heavyweights in the last 20 years, mostly because he hasn’t beaten anyone the general public has heard of.
One of the readers advised us to go back and take a peek at how bad Klitschko busted up Lennox Lewis (the 2nd round is terrific) in 2003 before the fight was called in the 7th when the ring doctor thought Klitschko’s gaping eye wound (as gnarly as it gets) was hazardous to his health. Lewis refused a rematch and instead retired.
Even though he smacked around Lewis pretty good (for a couple rounds), Lennox was on the downside of his career and did get the win. We certainly wouldn’t put Klitschko in the class of Tyson or Holyfield, and depending on what you read, Klitschko either kept dodging the only guy who knocked out Lennox Lewis, or he could never get healthy.
We probably should just ask Max Kellerman for his expert analysis, but here’s our definitely non-expert stab at the best heavyweights in the last 20 years (and spending a morning watching boxes highlights and eating cereal rules):
1. Lewis
2. Holyfield
3. Tyson
4. Bowe
5. Klitschko
6. Ruslan Chagaev
7. John Ruiz
8. Wladimir Klitschko
9. Tommy Morrison (just because)
10. Chris Byrd
55 Responses to “Klitschko Among Greatest Heavyweight Boxers in the Last 20 Years?”
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March 24th, 2009 at 1:04 PM
Put Vitali at number 4 and then go ahead and delete the rest of the list.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:07 PM
It’s not like he’s doing anything these days…
DAGGER!
March 24th, 2009 at 1:08 PM
David Tua wants to know why he’s not on the list.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:09 PM
lennox lewis no. 1?
1. tyson
2. holyfield
3. bowe
4. lewis
5. vitali
March 24th, 2009 at 1:09 PM
Tommy Guns? cmon
March 24th, 2009 at 1:10 PM
I think George Foreman should be on that list even if he was 40+ because I know he would have beaten Ruiz and Tommy Gun in his mid 40’s.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:11 PM
Drederick Tatum (just because)
/TBL
March 24th, 2009 at 1:11 PM
when he fights his brother then i will give him any credit.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:14 PM
Chris Byrd? GTFO.
Even in the last 20 years, Foreman should go ahead of him.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:15 PM
where’s butterbean?
March 24th, 2009 at 1:17 PM
this morrison fight rules
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sit01F0zPc0
March 24th, 2009 at 1:17 PM
lennox lewis no. 1?
1. tyson
2. holyfield
3. bowe
4. lewis
5. vitali
There’s always these Lewis haters out there. Bowe above Lewis? Please. You don’t have to put Lewis #1, but not below Bowe’s fat ass.
And The Warrior was my shit back in the day. Old bitch…
March 24th, 2009 at 1:17 PM
Clubber Lang
March 24th, 2009 at 1:17 PM
frank bruno?
March 24th, 2009 at 1:23 PM
fuck lennox lewis. if he gave half a shit about boxing he’d have been an all-timer. id watch either holyfield/bowe match 1,000 times over before i watched any of lewis’ fights.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:24 PM
this morrison fight rules
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sit01F0zPc0
if you like gay bashing
btw, I have never heard of #6, 7, and 10 in my life
March 24th, 2009 at 1:25 PM
Peter McNeely?
March 24th, 2009 at 1:27 PM
clubber lang was a fierce bitch
spencer – “watching” would easily make Tyson 1st
March 24th, 2009 at 1:27 PM
@spencer – don’t like the technical fights, eh?
March 24th, 2009 at 1:27 PM
You forgot Michael Moorer and George Foreman who were both heavyweights with similar resumes to Tyson over the last 20 years (1989-2009)
March 24th, 2009 at 1:28 PM
Looking at that list, you can see why boxing has fallen so far off the map. Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis and the also-rans. Who cares who’s number four on this list. That list is sad.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:29 PM
Ray Mercer would be the fucking Best Heavyweight today if he was in his prime now as opposed to 15 years ago. Mercer was decent at best.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:29 PM
You forgot Michael Moorer and George Foreman who were both heavyweights with similar resumes to Tyson over the last 20 years (1989-2009)
/joemorris
March 24th, 2009 at 1:31 PM
Klitschko was awesome.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:31 PM
And if Adam Dunn liked baseball, he’d be a Hall of Famer
March 24th, 2009 at 1:32 PM
Heath Herring would wreck shop against all these fools.
/CRM
March 24th, 2009 at 1:32 PM
i have neve heard of ruslan chagaev either but with as mauch ducking that goes on in boxing i’m not surprised.
mma >>>>>>>>> boxing
March 24th, 2009 at 1:34 PM
89-09? then Tyson shouldn’t be on this list. He lost to Buster Douglas in 1990. Does he get to be on this list for beating Bruno and Carl “the truth” Williams in ‘89?
March 24th, 2009 at 1:35 PM
Roy Jones Jr beat Ruiz for the heavyweight title. I am not sure how Ruiz is on the list at all.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:36 PM
MMA is cooler than boxing because they don’t duck punches. [cranks up "Here Comes The Boom"]
/mjejr
March 24th, 2009 at 1:40 PM
MMA is way better than Boxing because they allow the fighters to have rough man sex during MMA matches
/homoerotic sport’d
March 24th, 2009 at 1:40 PM
Tyson is 14-6 since 1989. That hardly makes you one of the top heavyweights in the last 20 years.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:41 PM
i love watching a elite boxer fight someone who probably isnt even qualified to fight in a toughman contest instead of a fighter who will make the fight interesting.
/clown
March 24th, 2009 at 1:42 PM
Klitschko should be in front of Tyson. Tyson would struggle with Klitschko’s size and length.
Heavy weights are far too big now days. They should be considered super heavyweights. Guys like Tyson or even Ali give up over 30 pounds to Klitschko.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:44 PM
ok nick, let’s hear it … and as somebody hopefully reminded you, Tyson got knocked out in 1990 and was never quite the same
March 24th, 2009 at 1:47 PM
MMA is greater then heavyweight boxing but I will take a lightweight to up to middleweight fight any day of the week. When it is a good fight these guys will beat the hell of each other, get knocked down and then get back up and fight, it doesn’t stop after one good punch or an armbar.
Don’t get me wrong I like MMA but all the grappling and chokes and arm bars etc, can ruin a good fight. Personally I think they should go to shorter rounds and more of them because the guys are usually spent towards the end of those rounds and not doing much damage.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:48 PM
yup i cant think of anything more homoerotic than a nice triangle choke or a oma plata.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:50 PM
so you’re saying you like boxing then right? because if you took out all the stuff you just mentioned it be boxing.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:54 PM
Let’s just go old school bare-knuckle style. No ground fighting, just stand-up face smashing to the death. Problem solved.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:55 PM
it’s not that, it’s just i really don’t like lewis. he was SO talented, but his head wasn’t in it. he could’ve been an all-time great and been the bridge to a new generation of boxers, but instead, he thought he was too cool for boxing and it just fell apart.
don’t get me wrong, lewis was great, GREAT. he just didn’t do it for me like the real deal or bowe when bowe was bowe.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:56 PM
This list is bad.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:59 PM
@spencer – I mean, the man did come out to Bob Marely. I doubt he really cared about much at all.
March 24th, 2009 at 2:02 PM
he cares about chess.
March 24th, 2009 at 2:04 PM
*Marley
March 24th, 2009 at 2:11 PM
Lewis is number one for the last twenty years and it’s not even close. I would put Holyfield at number two as well, but it’s a shame that Riddick Bowe couldn’t stay motivated because he could have been number two on this list if he stayed in the same shape he was in for the first Holyfield fight. He never fought Lewis as a pro, but lost to him at the 88 Olympics.
Lewis didn’t lose to anyone on this list and he beat four of them, with three stoppages. A couple other very solid wins for Lewis include Ray Mercer (controversial decision), and a blowout of Razor Ruddock (Tyson’s best post-Douglas win) and a virtual shutout of the over-hyped David Tua.
Vitali has only lost to Lewis and Chris Byrd (he quit in that fight due to a separated shoulder), but it is true he has ZERO big wins. His fame comes from giving Lewis a tough fight and getting stopped with that vicious cut.
Chagaev doesn’t deserve to sniff this list, and Wladimir is being underrated here. Yes, he lost to no-namers like Ross Purity, Corrie Sanders and Lamon Brewster, but he hasn’t lost since 2004 and is 10-0 with 8 KOs since then, against the best the division has to offer…other than his brother of course.
Ruiz deserves a spot at 10 just because the guy was so hard to get rid off (and he is actually somehow in line for another mandatory challenge for the WBA belt, currently belonging to Chagaev, who will fight the giant Nicolay Valuev soon to clear up the WBA title mess).
March 24th, 2009 at 2:13 PM
Romans1 Pumps out a lot of shit.
March 24th, 2009 at 2:18 PM
Romans1 Pumps out a lot of shit.
tl;dr
/for maggs…RIP
March 24th, 2009 at 2:22 PM
now Romans 1 is a boxing fan, clearly.
March 24th, 2009 at 2:25 PM
and a fast typer.
March 24th, 2009 at 2:28 PM
agreed.
romans 1 > spencer096
March 24th, 2009 at 2:35 PM
point taken, I guess my point is I hate when I guy gets pounded on, then catches the guy in a mistake and the match is over. I wouldn’t mind the ground work if they broke them up more often, fights that spend over 3 minutes a round on the ground are just as bad as a heavyweight fight.
March 24th, 2009 at 2:40 PM
that is true. but if they are constantly moving in and out submission attempts for 3 minutes its pretty ecxiting
March 24th, 2009 at 2:50 PM
Yeah, I am so happy there is a guy that cares very deeply for boxing on here. Because I have NO ONE in my life that cares for it even in the slightest. Let me also add that he did the one thing that I think means more to me for a boxer than anything else, personally. Right after he lost the belt to Rahman, he got it right back, and knocked him out faster than he got knocked out. And some people are mentioning he doesn’t care!!! Again. he lost the belt and then and right back and knocked out the guy who took them, and that was probably the way he should have went out. Also, a 19-2-1 record as a champ is pretty fucking good.
March 24th, 2009 at 3:29 PM
@Jersey
Agreed, and that 1 “draw” was a travesty…the first Holyfield fight. Lewis beat the two guys he lost to (McCall, Rahman) in dominating fashion in the rematches.
March 25th, 2009 at 1:57 AM
The mob and then Don King and Bob Arum (with still mobsters in darked shadows) et al screwed up the sport for good back with the Liston/Ali fights in the 1960s well after the mob’s noted historic corruption all century…great list for the last 20 years TBL …agree with the Clown for Vitali K at 4 but would put Bowe at 5 and just stop there.