Regarding Tyler Hansbrough’s Legacy
College Basketball April 7th. 2009, 9:45am
Take a deep breath, summon all your hatred for Tyler Hansbrough and place it to the side. Cover it up with a napkin or blanket. Done? Now, ponder just a handful of his accomplishments:
* 4 time All-American, 2nd team in 2006, 1st team in 2007-2009
* Only player in ACC history to be All-ACC 1st team four times
* Made more FTs than anyone in college basketball history (953)
* ACC career points leader (2,789)
* NCAA Tournament progression: 2nd round, Elite 8, Final Four, title.
Ready to compare Hansbrough to Duke’s Christian Laettner for the honor of best college basketball career in the last 20 years?
Laettner: He was an All-American only twice (2nd team as a junior). His strength: a 21-2 NCAA tournament record with four trips to the Final Four and two titles. As a freshman, he lost to Seton Hall in the Final Four (scored 13 points; Danny Ferry led Duke with 34) and as a sophomore the Blue Devils were famously routed in Denver in the title game by UNLV (Laettner scored 15 points). [Edit: It's been noted Laettner is the leading scorer in NCAA tournament history.]
Too bad Laettner never did for Angola, New York what Hansbrough did for Pop Bluff, Missouri! (Odd fact: Julie McCullough – Mike Seaver’s girlfriend on Growing Pains; Playmate – is also from Pop Bluff.)
The reasons for loving to hate Laettner are many – he played for Duke, he rocked a haircut straight out of 90210, the “stomp;” can you imagine if Laettner had a cell phone back in his prime? – but the slowly mounting ire toward Hansbrough – mostly for being a dominant college player – reached a crescendo during UNC’s regional final win over Louisville in the 2008 tournament (wish the video still existed). Hansbrough was excellent, but Jay Bilas and Dick Enberg professed their love for him over and over and over and at that point, UNC’s best player seemed to drift from “man, that guy’s a really good player” to “man, I’m sick of that guy.”
When the national media fawns – especially over a kid who has seemingly been in school forever; he has one more year, right? – the fans tend to turn away in disgust. (See Jeter, Derek.)
We previously thought that Laettner’s career easily trumped Hansbrough’s … but now that Tyler’s got a title, and his individual accomplishments far exceed Laettner’s, we’d rule it a toss-up.
Hansbrough adds final entry to his college resume — ‘national champ’ (SI)
North Carolina star Tyler Hansbrough stayed in college for this moment (Star Ledger)
Hansbrough completes remarkable career in style (Fox Sports)
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April 7th, 2009 at 9:48 AM
Thats a great picture.
April 7th, 2009 at 9:52 AM
Does not want.
April 7th, 2009 at 9:53 AM
Could Hansbrough make the Olympic team? No.
Gotta go with Laettner.
April 7th, 2009 at 9:56 AM
BUT HE’LL SUCK IN THE NBA!!!
/haters
April 7th, 2009 at 9:58 AM
Laenttner WASN’T even suppose to make that team (SHAQ was !!!)
CL was A Complete FRAUD anyway, I FUCKING HATE DUKE (Life-Long NC Fan)
April 7th, 2009 at 10:02 AM
Laenttner WASN’T even suppose to make that team (SHAQ was !!!)
That’s actually right, if my booze addled brain is correct. No college player would have made that team if it wasn’t for some stupid exemption that a college player had to be on the team.
/fuzzy memory.
//a little help?
///link?
April 7th, 2009 at 10:03 AM
Hansborough has what I like to call the Mark Teixeira syndrome. The inability to keep one’s mouth closed.
April 7th, 2009 at 10:07 AM
I found myself rooting against him less this year than in past years. Not really sure why… I guess I accepted the fact that he’s going to get the majority of calls, make ugly baskets, look extremely unathletic and finish with the best numbers of any player the game that night.
The ACC career pts leader is just staggering.
April 7th, 2009 at 10:08 AM
In the end, don’t you judge/care about titles? He could be #1 in every single category, but if his team won 10 games a year, would he still be considered a success? Hansbrough had a great college career. Not the best ever, not the best in the past 10-20 years. I’d go with Laettner.
April 7th, 2009 at 10:09 AM
@cracker
THAT’S from ALL the Great-AZZ Tyler has been getting along with the Thousands of Titties he has had in His Mouth during HIS Stellar College Career (On and Off the court!!!)
April 7th, 2009 at 10:11 AM
Someone’s going as Hansbrough’s penis for Halloween…
April 7th, 2009 at 10:15 AM
THAT’S from ALL the Great-AZZ Tyler has been getting along with the Thousands of Titties he has had in His Mouth during HIS Stellar College Career (On and Off the court!!!)
translation?
April 7th, 2009 at 10:17 AM
2 titles > 1 title
Laettner > Hansbrough
/still hate Duke
April 7th, 2009 at 10:17 AM
Hansbroughs career was remarkable. Media aside. Numbers do not make themselves up. Points leader? That is a huge achievement alone in what I consider to be the best basketball conference year in and year out. Solid top 3 in any given year anyway.
April 7th, 2009 at 10:18 AM
@KC…yes, he only made it b/c of the exemption you mentioned.
As for CL vs. TH…close, but 2 titles trumps 1 title.
April 7th, 2009 at 10:19 AM
Love the enthusiasm. You’ve got my vote.
April 7th, 2009 at 10:20 AM
Take Grant Hill’s (No Fan of His at all) first TWO years at Duke away and you have yet another Overrated Duke teams… THEY have MANY to choose from
April 7th, 2009 at 10:22 AM
Yes he is points leader. Where is he on the minutes played list (or how about pace factor for his team)?
He is great but Laettners percentages and versatility were just much better.
Hansbrough was not even the best player on his team this year.
April 7th, 2009 at 10:23 AM
Hansbrough’s stats are impressive, but the college basketball talent pool is much more diluted today than it was when Laettner played. Also, Laettner was clutch in big games. The UK highlight (and everything else about that game) is played ad nauseam, but his buzzer-beater against UConn in the Elite 8 in 1990 was huge, too. Hansbrough has carried UNC to critical wins, but I don’t think of him as a uniquely clutch player. And in his senior year, he wasn’t even the best player on his team.
Laettner was a tremendous ass, but his college career was epic. Hansbrough’s was merely outstanding.
April 7th, 2009 at 10:26 AM
Last I checked pace, or tempo of a game didn’t distract from points scored. You still have to put the ball in the cylinder.
April 7th, 2009 at 10:27 AM
Unless he has a decent NBA career, which most people think he won’t, nobody is going to remember who this guy is in 15 years because no one is going to remember this year’s tournament.
People remember and still talk about Laettner because he was involved in some of the most memorable moments in college basketball history:
-Led a Duke team that beat the “unstoppable” 1991 UNLV Running Rebs in the Final Four.
-Hit the buzzer beater against Kentucky in the 1992 Elite 8.
-Beat Webber and the Fab 5 in the 1992 championship game.
April 7th, 2009 at 10:29 AM
Those 1990 and 1991 UNLV teams were probably the best starting 5 that I have seen in my years of watching college basketball. They were unbelievable.
April 7th, 2009 at 10:30 AM
do you maintain this argument across sports? like dilfer > marino?
April 7th, 2009 at 10:31 AM
I like WRITING in capital LETTERS sometimes. But not ALL the time.
/CHItownsFINEST
April 7th, 2009 at 10:32 AM
how can you not include the stomp?
April 7th, 2009 at 10:33 AM
Ask any ex-Phoenix Sun that question.
April 7th, 2009 at 10:35 AM
and again, re: Hansbrough-Laettner, the nba stats are not at play here. strictly college accomplishments
April 7th, 2009 at 10:36 AM
around here we call it cocksucking syndrome.
April 7th, 2009 at 10:37 AM
@Chelsea… No FUCKING Doubt-About IT !!!
And after UNLV handed DUKE their Asses-in-their-FACE, that following year the refs took that UNDEFEATED UNLV team championship away from them… Greg Anthony stayed in foul trouble and on the bench the VAST-Majority of that game (I’m still PISSED about how they did Jerry T’s Boyz…)
April 7th, 2009 at 10:40 AM
I think this is the key. Had Hansborough been on that Duke team (UNC fans just puked in their mouths), he would have been backing up Laettner.
April 7th, 2009 at 10:40 AM
So JJ redick was where on your list since he had this acc points title?
April 7th, 2009 at 10:42 AM
yeah remember that one time when jj won a title?…no? yeah neither do i.
April 7th, 2009 at 10:43 AM
JJ redick
/never heard of him
April 7th, 2009 at 10:44 AM
talent pool is a good argument:
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/viewrank.asp
the other top 10 from hansbrough’s class: 0 college, 2 years at duke, the next 5 players didn’t play ANY college, julian wright played 2 years at kansas, and hendrix was a good but not great player at alabama.
April 7th, 2009 at 10:46 AM
bad link tbl…it says the ranking is no longer in the sytem.
April 7th, 2009 at 10:50 AM
Hansbrough was 4-0 at Duke.
Laettner didnt do shit on the 92 Olympic team except sit on the bench. Should have been Shaq or Alonzo Mourning.
April 7th, 2009 at 10:50 AM
1991 NCAA All-Americans:
1st Team:
Kenny ANderson
Jimmy Jackson
LJ
Shaq
Billy Owens
Laettner was 2nd team.
1992:
Jackson
Miner
Shaq
Laettner
Mourning
I don’t think Hansborough is making either of those teams.
April 7th, 2009 at 10:54 AM
do you maintain this argument across sports? like dilfer > marino?
No one would ever argue that Dilfer is better than Marino. The titles arguement is more of a clarification/refinement point.
April 7th, 2009 at 11:04 AM
Hate Duke but I’d take Laettner every day of the week over Hansbrough.
April 7th, 2009 at 11:07 AM
Didnt know Miner was that good in college.
April 7th, 2009 at 11:10 AM
Weird ncaa tournament game:
Laettner and Duke took down G’Town with Zo and Mutombo. rather easily, too
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?replayId=1360
April 7th, 2009 at 11:14 AM
can you really say that? can you pick any player out from any year and say, ‘NOPE, NO WAY X is making that 1991 team.’
i will buy the diluted talent pool argument, definitely. a lot of prep stars in 2005 went right to the nba. a lot of other ones didn’t stick around that long.
April 7th, 2009 at 11:16 AM
….so do you think that Hansbrough is getting playing time on the Dream Team>???? Please tell me you are joking…hell, do you think that Hansbrough (if on this last Olympic “Redeem Team”)would have been able to sniff playing time this past summer?!?!?!?!….get real…stupid point to make…
April 7th, 2009 at 11:17 AM
I’d just like to congratulate Muppet Baby Beaker for his national championship.
April 7th, 2009 at 11:18 AM
Hansbrough was an excellent college player who had circumstances line up for him to be able to do historic things. He joined a team that was gutted from the previous year which gave him huge opportunties right away. He stayed four years in an era where that gave him a relatively unique talent/experience profile. He played for a national power which allowed for great team success as well.
Laettner didn’t have those first two advantages so its not real shocking his counting stats don’t quite measure up.
April 7th, 2009 at 11:19 AM
Hansbrough was playing with at least 3 other 5 star recruits this year. The talent that he got to play with was unreal.
The success of Leon Powe in the NBA makes me think Hansbrough can be a rotation guy on a championship team.
April 7th, 2009 at 11:21 AM
This argument has already been made, but…
I got to go with Laettner. Not only did he win two titles, his stats came during an era when there were no one-and-done players (or straight to college).
Tyler’s great, but if players like Oden, Rose and Beasley played at least two to three years, you could cut Hansbrough’s All-American honors in half.
It’s the same argument I used for Redick. He was a great college player, but he only won all the awards because all the truly great players were playing in the NBA before they were twenty.
April 7th, 2009 at 11:30 AM
I never said Hansbrough was going to be on the Dream Team, Im saying Laettner should NOT have been. Agreeing with an earlier post about Shaq being on the team instead of Laettner. Try reading next time you try to make a dumbass response.
April 7th, 2009 at 11:30 AM
Ed Davis says he’s coming back.
April 7th, 2009 at 11:35 AM
Of course I messed up the link.
April 7th, 2009 at 11:42 AM
UNC gets Lawson and Ellington to stay 3 years, now they get Davis back?
OSU loses Oden,Conley,etc after 1 year and then Mullens? What the fuck.
April 7th, 2009 at 11:58 AM
I can’t wait until approximately December 2009 to remind TBL of both Hansbrough and Terrell Pryor as his most two highly overrated players for anything but the college level and Big 10 respectively. These are our only major points of contention too. And I say this after not disputing his polite request not to post direct links to hot steamy XXX free constantly updating porn here too.
Class act but wrong on these two points, and it appears that at least most other fans above agree with the opposite position than TBL’s at least on Hansbrough.
April 7th, 2009 at 1:47 PM
Leon Powe’s reach is almost 7 ft. While Hansbrough looks like T-Rex on the court with his arms.
I dislike the media’s love for Hansbrough. If he were black he would not be receiving the same type of treatment. In terms of talent he is arguably the fourth or fifth best player on this years team.
April 7th, 2009 at 2:44 PM
Grant Hill was the best player on both Duke championship teams.
April 8th, 2009 at 6:36 AM
Umm Laettner didn’t make it either the US was FORCED to have 1 college player on that team, you really think they wanted him over the 100’s other players in the nba 1000 times better than that fraud.
April 8th, 2009 at 6:41 AM
i really wish i was here when this was wrote.
you all keep mentioning titles, but you are the same people who say Bron is better than Kobe.. Who has more titles there? why doesnt the same thing apply when talkin about that? Make up your minds.