The Roundup: Belichick Might Be Getting Married; Is Mike Brown on the Outs in Cleveland?
Baseball, Media Gossip/Musings, NBA, NFL, Olympics, Soccer, Video, WWE June 11th. 2009, 8:00am
Petra Necomva survived the tsunami and she has a dazzling smile … Phil Spector’s mugshot, minus the wig … LeBron doesn’t carry singles … put us in the ‘fad’ column for this one …supposedly, here’s David Carradine, naked and dead … the QB from Varsity Blues (aka Dawson Leery) splits from his wife … when the recession hits, reach for the cheap booze … well, this certainly will lead to some speculation … locking a puppy in the bathroom with no food? … the search for the mattress with a million bucks …
Is Bill Belichick getting married? (Boston Herald)
This seems preposterous: The NBA’s coach of the year, Cleveland’s Mike Brown, may be on the outs in Cleveland. (Pro Basketball News)
Seahawks punter Jon Ryan has a sense of humor – a bird pooped on him, and he put the photo on his facebook page. (Stock Lemon)
San Francisco 49ers president talks to a blogger. (Niners Nation)
Drew Carey is an MLS dreamer. (Seattle Times)
The mother of all ESPN screen grabs: “What is crystal meth?” (CSTB)
This isn’t a site where you’d expect to see a story about the Yankees Stadium home run issue. (Weather)
If Vince Young had a facebook page. (Music City Miracles)
This kid’s good at the shot put … Olympic good? (Star-Ledger)
Scheyer face, Manning face, and now, Jeter face. (Red Sox Monster)
A girl that was once linked to David Wright is a huge hit in Seattle, according to a reader. (Vimeo1, Vimeo2)
Billy Jack Hayes, anyone? Cool blog name. (Camel Clutch Blog)
The 11-year-old Little Leaguer who was hit by a stray bullet was released from the hospital. (NYDN)
The last two are for the political crowd:
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June 11th, 2009 at 8:22 AM
Yep, that sounds about right… We all were throwing jokes around about how Mike Brown won the coach of the year because of LeBron… But just because they were jokes doesn’t mean they were wrong.
June 11th, 2009 at 8:25 AM
This seems preposterous
You didn’t watch the Beastern Conference Finals
June 11th, 2009 at 8:25 AM
My favorite face is the “18 and doh!” face.
June 11th, 2009 at 8:31 AM
Vince Young Facebook spoof was pretty damn funny
June 11th, 2009 at 8:36 AM
I was a Dave guy for the longest time. But he just hasn’t been funny for a long time.
June 11th, 2009 at 8:38 AM
You didn’t watch the Beastern Conference Finals
Mike Brown proved to be a terrible coach in the ECF. If you want to blame it on personnel, then you have to fire Danny Ferry too. But they need a coach to get them over the hump, somebody who will actually coach Lebron in games.
June 11th, 2009 at 8:39 AM
my mom is convinced that Letterman’s gay…despite the wife and kid.
/she may or may not be crazy…my wife leans towards the “may be crazy” side, though.
June 11th, 2009 at 8:40 AM
I am a Letterman fan, but his explanation is lame and the joke was very much over the line. You do not joke about a 14 year old girl being screwed during the 7th inning stretch or any time. He can say it was aimed at the older daughter, but she isn’t the one that was there. The 14 year old was there, the 18 year old was not, so any jokes about her daughter having sex while in NY are aimed at the young girl.
Gov Palin is an idiot and I would never in a million years support her for anything, but I have teenage girls and would be irate if I were in her place.
June 11th, 2009 at 8:41 AM
on the alcohol story –
its my little dream to run a craft brew/cigar store. in this economy its looking less feasible and now Senators looking for ways to fund Obamacare are dropping the hammer with more taxes on beer.
June 11th, 2009 at 8:44 AM
miz – maybe your Mom saw this video. Classic. Make her watch it if she has not seen it.
June 11th, 2009 at 8:44 AM
On Letterman – he was the shit when I was a kid. As of now, he’s just running out the clock on his contract, i think.
That said, joking about Sarah Palin is really easy. Low hanging fruit. Palin is a laughingstock among the majority of Americans, and jokes about her pregnant daughter or daughter getting pregnant have been totally OK for months. They’re cheap, in poor taste, and lazy. I think the spin (that it’s about teenage rape) is all Palin’s though.
June 11th, 2009 at 8:44 AM
tax link
June 11th, 2009 at 8:45 AM
wow html up my ass
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/news/kasperontap/2009/06/from_the_beer_blogs_taxes.html
June 11th, 2009 at 8:47 AM
Mike Brown is not a good coach, undeniable. However the problem with firing a guy, who’s better AND currently available? That article lists Riley, Coach K, and Phil, aint none of them coming to the mistake by the lake.
June 11th, 2009 at 8:48 AM
I don’t see Social Networks ever leaving the zeitgeist. People may use them less and less as they grow old, but I don’t think I could actually live with out facebook, Because of facebook, when I put my cellphone through the washer before a vacation it gave me the ability to notify my parents, and one of my friends who had an old phone I could borrow. If I didn’t have facebook no one would have known and I would have been royally fucked.
June 11th, 2009 at 8:51 AM
After talking to James in pregame media availability, there were a couple dollar bills on the floor in front of his locker.
“Whose money is this?” James asked. “I don’t carry ones.”
How did i miss this Lebron link? im surprised this didnt get its own post. Was he playing craps before games?
June 11th, 2009 at 8:52 AM
heard this morning that the waxman energy bill (rise in gas, utilities and everything dealing with energy) is the highest tax increase in WORLD history.
kick us while we are down…..
June 11th, 2009 at 8:53 AM
How can you not carry ones? Doesn’t he ever go buy his electrolyte fueled drink of choice?
June 11th, 2009 at 8:56 AM
That’s what minions are for.
June 11th, 2009 at 8:56 AM
my electric company is asking the psc for an 18% rate hike. im watching ed begley for conservation advice.
June 11th, 2009 at 8:57 AM
She’s holding a hat.
June 11th, 2009 at 8:57 AM
LeBron had Godfather Stern apologize on his behalf for missing his media appearance – the same commish that suspended His Airness for a year and a half. You think Icon is gonna listen to any coach?
June 11th, 2009 at 9:00 AM
Only 1, but that guy isn’t leaving Durham for Cleveland.
June 11th, 2009 at 9:01 AM
he should coach the cavs himself.
June 11th, 2009 at 9:03 AM
You’d figure that a network with that much access to the Favre family would know what meth is.
June 11th, 2009 at 9:06 AM
That A-Rod/Bateman spoof is spot on.
There is an idea of an A-Rod. But there is no real A-Rod.
June 11th, 2009 at 9:07 AM
EA Sports will announce later today that Dwight Howard will be on the cover of its new NBA Live game
June 11th, 2009 at 9:11 AM
He is playing in the world series of dice this year…has a tough 1st round matchup against ashy larry
June 11th, 2009 at 9:12 AM
is there some reason LSU’s 1958 DL was called the chinese bandits and dressed like this?
yes, yes there is.
June 11th, 2009 at 9:13 AM
I am so sick of this over-hyped never accomplished nothing self centered self promoting egomaniac it makes me sick. Is there anything he wont endorse? They should call him Superprincess.
/welcome to haterville Dwight, population now 2-3 (depending on who you ask)
June 11th, 2009 at 9:16 AM
Really? Who hates Dwight Howard? I find him unhateable.
June 11th, 2009 at 9:16 AM
My bet is that DHo, cyber version, will have more post moves than DHo, reality version.
June 11th, 2009 at 9:16 AM
You think Icon is gonna listen to any coach?
he should coach the cavs himself.
Because he’s there, I don’t think they need to hire a master motivator, or a Zen master type.
They need an X’s and O’s guy, but the key to the deal, is that they need somebody Lebron will listen to. I don’t know if that guy’s out there, but he might be for 12 million per.
June 11th, 2009 at 9:19 AM
he’s a beast and damn fucking good, but im not his biggest fan.
June 11th, 2009 at 9:19 AM
It was an era when people loved “Amos & Andy” too. Not excusing it–just sayin’.
By the way, the coach who came up with this idea was from Ohio.
June 11th, 2009 at 9:19 AM
Stop hating on Lebron. Oh, did you mean somebody else?
June 11th, 2009 at 9:20 AM
That was sarcasm because much of the LeBron hate (especially during Handshakegate) was this underlying jealousy that he did too many commercials and was too hyped/endorsed/paid. F them, get paid Dwight.
June 11th, 2009 at 9:20 AM
If the Magic win this thing, he will become more overexposed than Will Ferrell
June 11th, 2009 at 9:21 AM
Rumor has it that the Cavs are looking at bringing in Whoopi Goldberg as coach to reprise here role as Eddie.
June 11th, 2009 at 9:21 AM
no wonder i found it gut-busting hilarious.
ohio and louisiana…combined, we’re still not as bad as florida.
June 11th, 2009 at 9:22 AM
So he will be on Man vs. Wild?
June 11th, 2009 at 9:24 AM
Bear Grylls is a pussy.
June 11th, 2009 at 9:27 AM
Never mind that Land of the Lost is sputtering to bomb status, and never mind that that idiot hasn’t actually had a big hit since Anchorman, he’s got 7 movies in development (at imdb). 7. Including a plan to take a huge shit on Sherlock Holmes.
That guy needs to stop making movies for a while.
June 11th, 2009 at 9:28 AM
Spencer, the bizarre thing is that they still use it. When the defense forces the other team to punt or stop them on downs, the band plays the “Chinese Bandits” theme (supposed Asian-sounding music), and the fans start bowing.
It’s as racist as Chief Wahoo, but don’t tell them that.
June 11th, 2009 at 9:32 AM
Chief Wahoo is not racist because I root for that team.
June 11th, 2009 at 9:32 AM
Since he was Conan’s last and first guest, I thought I’d bring up that I saw a Conan promo. He has Norm MacDonald tonight and Kevin Nealon tomorrow night.
I guess he’ll still have Saturday Night Live people on his show every night, even though he’s not hosting Late Night in New York anymore.
/I like it, mostly
June 11th, 2009 at 9:33 AM
so Ronaldo is sold for 131 mil and will earn 362K per week … what the fuck.
June 11th, 2009 at 9:35 AM
hell yea.
college football season needs to get it’s ass here already.
June 11th, 2009 at 9:36 AM
Letterman has been virtually unwatchable for most of the last 10 years. He’s now third in the demo behind Tonight Show (Leno’s ratings), and Nightline. When you’re so hip you’re losing to a 25 year old newsmagazine at 11:30 at night, just walk away
June 11th, 2009 at 9:36 AM
Norm and Nealon were 2 of the funniest guests he had on his old show. He knows that. They arent the biggest names but they are by far the best interviews. The two best to ever do Weekend Update.
June 11th, 2009 at 9:38 AM
People may use them less and less as they grow old, but I don’t think I could actually live with out facebook
sponge: We survived for 2007 years w/out it, we’d find a way-lol
June 11th, 2009 at 9:40 AM
Yeah “The Tonight Show” brand had nothing to do with Leno beating Letterman in ratings. There was a reason Letterman made almost double what Leno did.
June 11th, 2009 at 9:42 AM
Let’s give Colin Quinn some credit.
/NickP
June 11th, 2009 at 9:42 AM
funny how the Cavs fans/haters say “post moves” all the time now. I guess most of them are still bitter because the overrated Cavs were exposed as frauds. yeah Dwight is still raw on the offensive end. Once he gets a go to move, it is fucking ovah for the rest of the league. 27 teams out of 30 do not have a center/big man that can guard him
June 11th, 2009 at 9:45 AM
duder: Didn’t know that “Nightline brand” was so strong either.
The reason he got paid double Leno was LEVERAGE. Once NBC signed Leno, ABC, CBS and Fox all wanted Letterman. With Leno, NBC was going to have to pay Conan $40 million if he didn’t get the Tonight show gig, but they also wanted Leno, so they’re paying HIM a fortune to stay and be on at 10 every night
June 11th, 2009 at 9:45 AM
The only guy who can guard him is Gortat.
June 11th, 2009 at 9:46 AM
Dennis Miller was a poser who changed his politics according to public opinion, but he’s #1 or #2 in my book (with Norm and his OJ/Hasselhoff/Madonna jokes.
June 11th, 2009 at 9:49 AM
didn’t see this one coming
June 11th, 2009 at 9:49 AM
1. Norm
2. Chase/Curtin
3. Nealon
4. Miller
…
5000. Seth Meyers
June 11th, 2009 at 9:54 AM
5001: Colin Quinn
Can someone explain to me how Colin Quinn ever got paid for being funny? I’ve never seen a worse “comedian”…he had the timing of a 3 year old.
June 11th, 2009 at 9:55 AM
Jay, you ignorant slut!
/don’t forget about Jane Curtain
June 11th, 2009 at 9:56 AM
Don’t want to give any credit to your boys for playing the best ball of the season for 6 games? You’d rather call the Cavs overrated? You can’t have it both ways, especially since 3 of the 6 games went down to the last possession. Whatever makes you happy…
Besides, I was just guessing on actual DHo’s post moves, since I’ve never seen the Magic play basketball.
June 11th, 2009 at 9:58 AM
Good list there… Is Tina Fey ahead of Miller? If not, she’s a close #5…
June 11th, 2009 at 9:59 AM
Don’t want to give any credit to your boys for playing the best ball of the season for 6 games
Im surprised you didnt read all my comments during Ballin this year. I thought you read all my comments. I said numerous times this year that the Magic would have no problem taking care of the Cavs. Spencer even yelled at me for being so arrogant
June 11th, 2009 at 10:00 AM
Petra Necomva
Top 5 quality right there.
On the SNL Weekend Update, I’d go Chase/Curtin #1, but that’s splitting hairs. BTW, Jimmy Fallon isn’t on the list.
On and pre-emptive soccer post: $131 million?!!! Are you freaking kidding me??!!!!
June 11th, 2009 at 10:02 AM
Good thing that the Magic played their best ball then (remember, that’s another guess since no one that isn’t a Magic fan has ever seen them play)… It took Orlando’s best shot to beat the Cavs and they did so. If that makes Cleveland frauds in your mind, then so be it… Whatever. Your logic is befuddling sometimes.
June 11th, 2009 at 10:03 AM
Your logic is befuddling sometimes
so is yours. We are stuck disagreeing. Maybe if you never made that comment about that 15 year old girl on here we would be cool
June 11th, 2009 at 10:04 AM
BTW, Jimmy Fallon isn’t on the list.
8,786,921: Jimmy Fallon
@BFFredo: There, I put him where he belongs
June 11th, 2009 at 10:06 AM
List of SNL Weekend Update anchors
Forgot about the dog days in the early 1980’s.
June 11th, 2009 at 10:06 AM
Whatever. Mike Brown brought a defense to the Cavs that put them in position to make deep runs in the playoffs over the past three years. LeBron’s obviously the biggest part of their success, but that dude and this team would not have been in the same position without Brown’s defense.
I seriously haven’t seen any alternatives out there for all things Brown allegedly screwed up. But it still seems vogue to bash his gameplans.
June 11th, 2009 at 10:07 AM
awesome.
June 11th, 2009 at 10:07 AM
The problem with any host since 2000 (Fallon, Fey, Meyers, Poehler) is they moved miles away from deadpan sarcasm into zany laugh at your own joke territory. Instead of the stories being the “star,” they tried to be.
Curtin/Chase were the best at sticking to the formula. They never broke character. That said, I prefer Norm to those two, just because of how funny he was.
June 11th, 2009 at 10:09 AM
I love Kevin Nealon. Definitely miss Tough Crowd with Quinn.
June 11th, 2009 at 10:09 AM
1. Gortat
2. Norm
3. Nealon
June 11th, 2009 at 10:09 AM
RE:
Is that her porn name?
+1,000 on Petra NEMCOVA
June 11th, 2009 at 10:10 AM
Windhorst refutes internet “stories” on Cavs’ Brown being in jeopardy.
I’ll listen to Windhorst’s take 8 days a week in comparison to some guy who has probably never been to Cleveland, covered a Cavs game, or interviewed anyone in their front office.
/Move on to the next made up story to get LBJ out of Cleveland, please
June 11th, 2009 at 10:11 AM
8,786,921: Jimmy Fallon
@BFFredo: There, I put him where he belongs
Still too high in my book.
Mike Brown is not a good coach, undeniable.
Correction, Mike Brown is not a great coach. He can’t make Varejao and Ilgauskas turn into Duncan and Robinson. He can’t force the team he’s got to become the Showtime Lakers or the 90s Bulls.
June 11th, 2009 at 10:12 AM
I did not like Nealon because he seemed so unnatural and nervous. And it didn’t seem like an act. The writing was funny, but he was too wooden.
June 11th, 2009 at 10:12 AM
cursed, congrats, you have identified yourself as one of the “mystery three” people who actually watched his show.
June 11th, 2009 at 10:14 AM
I also give credit to Dennis Miller, whether you think he was funny or not, because he made Weekend Update relevant again. It wasn’t the star of the show for about 5-6 years like it became when he got there and after.
June 11th, 2009 at 10:16 AM
I hope it’s none of my friends….
June 11th, 2009 at 10:18 AM
I love Miller, way better than Tony K on MNF.
June 11th, 2009 at 10:19 AM
Cursed, we’ve been through this before and generally agree. The roster has improved the past few years but MB hasn’t. I appreciate the defensive mindset he brought (where was it during Orl series?), but you still have to put the ball through the hoop. As I said, there is no upgrade to be had, I haven’t seen a single realistic possible replacement.
Last year against the C’s and this year against the Magic, the Cavs were evenly matched, series could go either way. He was out-coached by Doc “I was nearly fired” Rivers and SVG.
We’ve seen Dwight can be contained, and I dont want to hear about matchups and players, he did NOTHING to keep Dwight off the only spot he can operate from (left block). Did nothing to mix things up and keep him guessing (as phil is doing). Thats why people are bashing him. He’ll be back, for better or worse.
June 11th, 2009 at 10:24 AM
Sam Amico (the respected NBA journalist who wrote the article) is from Cleveland. I’ll be blogging about this.
June 11th, 2009 at 10:24 AM
2007-lost in NBA FINALS
2008-lost in game 7 of ECF to number 1 team in the league and eventual nba champs
2009- lost in 6, barely winning 2, to the 3 seed
The team is regressing, changes need to be made, and the roster has gotten better. Clearly the coach needs to go.
June 11th, 2009 at 10:26 AM
coop –
Amazingly, it was the Cavs defense that did them in. The Magic play outside-in on offense. The Cavs defense is designed to play inside-out, forcing the same shots that Orlando wants to take. Good for the Magic, they made damn near every one of them.
Tough to stop Dwight when Pietrus and Alston don’t miss. Dwight didn’t hurt them in 2 of the 4 losses. It was the secondary guys who seemingly made every single shot.
The Cavs couldn’t STOP Orlando from scoring, regardless of what they tried. That’s credit to the Magic (who I’d never seen play before this series) for hitting shots and being patient. When Brown was forced to adjust to play their secondary guys, Howard went off in game 6.
I am disappointed they lost, but I think it was more that Orlando played incredible basketball more than it was the Cavs blew the series.
June 11th, 2009 at 10:30 AM
I’ll listen to Windhorst’s take 8 days a week in comparison to some guy who has probably never been to Cleveland, covered a Cavs game, or interviewed anyone in their front office.
Sam Amico (the respected NBA journalist who wrote the article) is from Cleveland. I’ll be blogging about this
burn
June 11th, 2009 at 10:31 AM
Didn’t realize that Amico was from Cleveland. That said, it comes off as a “look at me” op-ed piece more than reporting. In the past 4 years, rarely has Windhorst been wrong about the inner workings of the Cavs, be it coaching, personnel, trades, etc… The fact that he wrote the article as a response to the Amico and the NY Daily Trash pieces is interesting.
June 11th, 2009 at 10:32 AM
Regressed? Umm, No. Why are you putting their loss in the NBA Finals up there? The East was horrendous that year and Brown had them overachieving, so there’s no harm in that.
2008, took the NBA Champs to the wire, and clearly did a better job than Phil Jackson did in slowing them down.
2009, I’m with you. I’m not happy with this year’s exit. But most NBA people have rightly said that the supporting cast didn’t come to play. Brown did use different tactics in defending Howard, none of them worked. It’s easy to just say he didn’t. But he did. Go back and watch the tape. Seriously. You’ll see double teams at all different angles with various rotations, and you’ll also see one-on-one.
June 11th, 2009 at 10:35 AM
I am a Letterman fan, but his explanation is lame and the joke was very much over the line. You do not joke about a 14 year old girl being screwed during the 7th inning stretch or any time. He can say it was aimed at the older daughter, but she isn’t the one that was there. The 14 year old was there, the 18 year old was not, so any jokes about her daughter having sex while in NY are aimed at the young girl.
Gov Palin is an idiot and I would never in a million years support her for anything, but I have teenage girls and would be irate if I were in her place.
I think it was pretty obvious that the jokes were more about Alex Rodriguez and Eliot Spitzer with a tangential reference to the fact that Sarah Palin’s eldest daughter has been paraded around the country as a spokeswoman for abstinence since giving birth to her son than any sort of remark about sexual assault.
Letterman, in the second video, is making fun of anyone who sees the jokes for something they are not.
June 11th, 2009 at 10:44 AM
To show where there peak was and show where they have gone since then Cursed. So what happens next year if the Cavs don’t make it back to the NBA finals… at some point, you have to start pointing figners at the team and not other teams. The goal for LeBron and this team is to win a title, and if Lebron, since making the finals TWO YEARS ago, can’t get back to the promised land, he’s gonna ask, who is to blame for this? Is it him, is it Ferry, is it the coach? And you know how that goes in sports, coach be4 gm, always. Shit, SVG took a Heat team to the best record in the EAST and didn’t win a championship. What happened next, Riley took over as coach, Heat win a championship…. hmmm, maybe thats a post idea for me.
June 11th, 2009 at 10:52 AM
jersey: cut back on the shamless promotions, dude
June 11th, 2009 at 10:54 AM
So playing someone close is almost like winning? OSU fans are easy to spot.
Against Orlando the 76ers won 2 games, the injured/tired Celtics won 3 games. The Cavs barely won 2 only because of LeBron’s heroics and should have been swept, in now way is that good.
June 11th, 2009 at 10:55 AM
Didn’t think anyone would notice… Whoops
June 11th, 2009 at 11:03 AM
Do you seriously think that Orlando played the same against Cleveland as they did against Boston and Philly? I’m only guessing, because I’ve obviously never seen Orlando play before, but I’d bet that they played and shot thoroughly better in the Cleveland series.
June 11th, 2009 at 11:08 AM
Jersey, I applaud the self promotion.
June 11th, 2009 at 11:19 AM
little known fact: cursed is Sam Amico.
That really was one of the dumbest articles ever written. Windhorst can make a living by simply refuting horribly inaccurate articles on other sites.
June 11th, 2009 at 11:20 AM
I am so sick of this over-hyped never accomplished nothing self centered self promoting egomaniac it makes me sick. Is there anything he wont endorse? They should call him Superprincess.
/welcome to haterville Dwight, population now 2-3 (depending on who you ask)
Don’t forget stealing his nickname from the original Superman
June 11th, 2009 at 11:23 AM
@artest- you obviously did not see his interview the other day when he spoke about the Superman thing.
June 11th, 2009 at 11:44 AM
and psu fans have a lot of room to talk.
June 11th, 2009 at 11:45 AM
Pryor ran a 4.3 this past week at OSU. Fastest time on the team (although a few guys didn’t run it).
June 11th, 2009 at 11:50 AM
Why are they timing his throwing motion?
June 11th, 2009 at 11:51 AM
@cursed or spencer- what happened to Alex Boone? did he ever get picked up?
June 11th, 2009 at 11:53 AM
But does he throw a jump pass?
June 11th, 2009 at 11:55 AM
pretty sure Boone was a priority FA signed by the 49ers
June 11th, 2009 at 11:57 AM
Actually I was wrong. 4.3 was the amount of pass attempts per game. Sorry.
June 11th, 2009 at 11:58 AM
There are far worse culprits.
June 11th, 2009 at 11:59 AM
clown on fire today, that made me laugh pretty hard.
June 11th, 2009 at 12:00 PM
and their stuff sucks…jersey’s is actually pretty good.
June 11th, 2009 at 12:04 PM
btw phil specter wigless looks like this
June 11th, 2009 at 12:05 PM
There are far worse culprits.
and their stuff sucks…jersey’s is actually pretty good.
it is and he is. it’s just there have been more self links by commentors in the last two weeks then in the two years or so I’ve come here combined. didn’t mean to call you out, jersey. As Nick said, there are plenty of others.
I just figured most of us have all probably clicked on the name links, so we know who has a blog and who doesn’t. Sorry for earlier
June 11th, 2009 at 12:10 PM
agree with you there, jpq
June 11th, 2009 at 12:14 PM
We are still here…. holy cow