With the Draft Set, a Closer Look at the Elite College Basketball Teams for 2009-2010
College Basketball June 16th. 2009, 2:00pm
This was our first stab when the season ended. Much has changed.
1. Kansas - Collins and Aldrich came back to Lawrence. So did everyone else that matters. There could be some offensive struggles at times, but there’s no doubt this is the best team in the nation.
2. North Carolina – Lost four starters, all of whom are likely to be 1st round draft picks. But the frontline has the potential to be among the best in the country, and it’s NBA-like: Davis, Thompson and Zeller. Assuming Drew can handle the PG duties, a 3rd straight Final Four is well within reach.
3. Kentucky - There will be some issues for Calipari meshing new and old talent; there may even be a surprising loss or two before conference play begins. But with depth of talent, a Final Four will be expected. With Meeks, we might have put them first.
4. Purdue - With Kansas, this is one of three teams (we think) in the country to return all five starters. We can’t pinpoint a reason, but we still don’t get the feeling that the Boilermakers are a Final Four team. Haven’t been there since 1980.
5. Texas - Despite the loss of Abrams, the Longhorns return their next four biggest contributors, and the recruiting class is stacked with two Top-10 players, plus Florida transfer Jai Lucas is eligible in the second semester.
6. Michigan State – Lots of very good guards (Allen, Lucas, Summers) return; they’re not nearly as deep up front as they were last year after the graduations of Ibok, Gray and Suton. Will Roe get help inside?
7. Villanova - Somewhat reluctant to do this, considering they lost three valuable contributors (Cunningham, Clark, Anderson). But Reynolds is back along with the two Coreys, and recruiter extraordinaire Jay Wright has lassoed quite a freshman class.
8. Tennessee - Tyler Smith decided to stay, and the Vols now return all of last year’s most productive players. Could give Kentucky a run in the SEC. But can Bruce Pearl coach defense?
9. West Virginia - A bit of a Final Four sleeper, only because it lost its most complete player, senior Alex Ruoff and flamed out early in the NCAA tournament. Mazzulla will return healthy, and the Ebanks-Butler combo will be like what Earl Clark and Terrence Williams had at Louisville last year.
10. Washington - Probably a reach here, but this Top 10 needed a left coast flavor. Despite losing its 2nd best scorer and top rebounder (Brockman), the Huskies have a nice trio in Thomas, Pondexter and super-recruit Abdul Gaddy. With USC, UCLA and Gonzaga all virtually rebuilding, the Huskies should be able to stake claim as the best in the West.
Teams in the hopper for the next 10, no order:
Georgia Tech: Promising trio of Shumpert, Lawal and Favors will contend in the ACC.
Duke: Because the Blue Devils are always there. Would have been Top 10 with Henderson.
Dayton: Class of the A-10, whatever that’s worth. Top Flight Wright returns.
California: The best kept backcourt secret in the country last season, Randle and Christopher, should finally shine. Probably the 2nd best team in the West after Washington.
Notre Dame: Top tier team in the Big East with the trio of Harangody, Ben Hansbrough and PG Tory Jackson.
Connecticut: Walker and Dyson will be a dynamite backcourt; will Edwards/Robinson give them enough inside? Will Matok be eligible?
Louisville: Another solid 20-win, NCAA tournament-bound team for Pitino.
Ohio State: Near the top of a much-improved Big 10, led by Turner, Buford, and a healthy David Lighty.
Oklahoma State: Team to watch in the Big 12 behind Anderson, Muonelo, and a supposedly-good incoming batch of freshman.
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June 16th, 2009 at 2:02 PM
Texas = 2010 National Champs
/Book it
June 16th, 2009 at 2:07 PM
Clown…seriously.
Rick Barnes will never, EVER lead any team to the promised land, especially if it’s not the most talented team in their conference, let alone in the nation.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:09 PM
what’s the best texas hoops team of the last 20 years?
BMW?
Ford F4 team?
this one?
June 16th, 2009 at 2:09 PM
Kansas shouldn’t even be ranked. They suck.
/please stop with the hype
June 16th, 2009 at 2:09 PM
Don’t forget about that awesome recruiting class Thad brought in. Oh wait.
Still no point guard, which means: aint going anywhere in March.
WVU is going to be very good next year. Can they win in the tourney with Huggy bear? Who knows.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:10 PM
If Renardo Sidney plays alongside Jarvis Varnado, Mississippi State is the second-best team in the SEC, not Tennessee.
They’re top 15 material, easy. There’s no reason why they can’t sweep their competition in the SEC West this year.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:11 PM
What? No FSU?
June 16th, 2009 at 2:11 PM
Cole Aldrich fears Sexy Dexy.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:11 PM
This one.
Sexy Dexy, Damion, Doge, Avery, Hamilton and maybe J’Covan? Yeah, buddy!
June 16th, 2009 at 2:12 PM
sigh. did you even watch the end of the season and NCAA tourney? Ibok and Gray barely played. Draymond Green was getting massive minutes, and was an animal in the tourney, and he is just getting better. they also have the incoming Mr. Basketball for Michigan, Derrick Nix to go along with 6′10″ Garrick Sherman. Will they provide the scoring that Suton did? Of course not. However, Roe will be picking up major slack this year as well.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:12 PM
osu ftw!!!
June 16th, 2009 at 2:14 PM
Kansas is gonna be tough to beat.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:15 PM
Gonzaga is rebuilding this year? what a shame
I like Nova this year
June 16th, 2009 at 2:16 PM
Kentucky will not make it past the first weekend in the dance.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:16 PM
Yea Michigan returns thier top two players from a top 25 team and are getting a highly recruited PG from Cali and a legit shoot the lights out 7 footer. Worst. List. Ever.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:18 PM
Maggs-the Big 10 is going to be a slugfest.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:20 PM
It’s hard for me to pick against the TJ Ford team because he’s so much better than what they have at the point now, but once Lucas is eligible they have the possibility of throwing 14 legitimate players into the mix. If Hamilton and Bradley are the real deal this team is a legit contender for the national title and the Big 12 title.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:21 PM
Kentucky will not make it past the first weekend in the dance
How can you say that right now? do you already know who they are playing? What if they play Portland State?
June 16th, 2009 at 2:21 PM
any of them coached by tom penders.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:21 PM
The top of the ACC is going to be BIG. UNC, Duke, GaTech, and FSU all will be sporting massive front lines, so expect some great battles down low. Also, Drew Two sucks mad ass, so I laugh at UNC @2.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:22 PM
Since Tyler Smith came back and he’ll be a 4-year player when all is said and done, will he be a lottery pick next year?
NBA upside?
/disgruntled Hawkeye fan
June 16th, 2009 at 2:22 PM
did you not read comment #11?
osu ftw!!!
June 16th, 2009 at 2:23 PM
if they play Portland State in the 2nd round, I will be really fucking impressed with Portland State.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:24 PM
ill take that bet right now. give you 2:1 odds. email me if serious
June 16th, 2009 at 2:24 PM
Don’t be ridiculous.
/balki’d
June 16th, 2009 at 2:25 PM
Andy Katz has Siena #20.
I’m just reporting it.
/he also has Tulsa #21
June 16th, 2009 at 2:25 PM
jay, how the hell do they even field a team down there? stansbury has to be getting away with calipari-like violations down there to get the players he does, yet somehow they never get anything from the ncaa. there is no way that shit ended with eric dampier and his 40 credit summer school classes.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:25 PM
Some games might even reach the 40s.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:27 PM
I love overtime games
June 16th, 2009 at 2:28 PM
Whoa whoa clown, let’s not talk crazy now. Maybe the o/u lines get set at 40, but that’s it.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:29 PM
when do we get to beat Texas, again?
June 16th, 2009 at 2:29 PM
and yet there’ll still be more contact than any big 12 football game this year.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:29 PM
I agree with this. Maybe they feel sorry for them. But if you watched the SEC tourney, you know that Varnado is legit and can take over games by himself. If somehow Sidney get eligible and frees up Varnado a little bit, wow.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:30 PM
hurry and go to espn to watch kenny mayne act like the “stupid white guy” and watch scoop jackson do what he does best and play the “race baiter”
June 16th, 2009 at 2:30 PM
You know, for all the hate the Big Ten hoops squads get, they at least reach the final four every couple years. Other than Florida, the SEC hasn’t had a Final Four team since 1997.
ACC and Big East we all know are good. I’d be willing to bet the Big Ten has sent more teams to the final weekend than the Pac-10 in the last ten years too.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:32 PM
Add Maryland to the the next ten. They lost one guy this year everyone else is back for a team that really started to hit its stride at the end of last year. They have two big men coming to campus in this years recruiting class. This should allow them to rebound some more and defend their opponents 4/5 which was their biggest problem last year and it will also allow Landon Milbourne, who is a talented player, to stop playing out of positon and move back to the 3 which is his natural place on the floor. As of yesterday Vasquez is returning. They also are in the driver seat as of right now for Lance Stephenson (although that may be more trouble then it is worth.)
/absolute homer for MD b-ball
June 16th, 2009 at 2:33 PM
No Big Ten titles this century.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:33 PM
Spencer is right! Big 12 offenses are untouchable.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:34 PM
Terps Suck.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:34 PM
btw, arkbadger, it’s not going to be as bad as it was for Arkansas last year, right? I think LSU takes a big step backward this year, even with Tasmin Mitchell deciding to come back. Ole Miss might be State’s only competition in the West this year.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:35 PM
jay, vernardo is a fucking beast and gets no love outside the sec. dude averages almost 5 blocks a game, that’s sick.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:37 PM
Texas has 0 titles in the last 2 centuries.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:39 PM
LSU. 2006.
/and the SEC has 5 of the last 16 national championships
//but they don’t have any if you don’t count Kentucky, Florida, and Arkansas
June 16th, 2009 at 2:40 PM
Disagree. Tennessee returns 99.7% of their scoring and 99.3% of their rebounding of a team the won the SEC East. Look for the Vols’ experience to win out over MSU and UK. UK will have problems relying on freshmen guards. Meeks departure will keep them from being an elite team this year.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:42 PM
absolute homer for MD b-ball
i saw Franchise last weekend. smoked out, renting jet skis
June 16th, 2009 at 2:43 PM
No, they stopped recruiting him
Maryland sucks, can’t wait for General Gervais to get his ass handed to him again in “his house.”
June 16th, 2009 at 2:45 PM
money, State was literally playing with Varnado and 4 guards last year and still won the SEC tourney. I personally think that they have room for a lot more improvement, and they only finished 1 game behind Tennessee overall in the SEC last year.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:50 PM
Id be afraid of a fat ass too. It’s not like he has the skills to stop him so he has to resort to fouling.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:54 PM
No, they stopped recruiting him
Taking that article with a grain of salt. It says they stopped three weeks ago but reports were they were in contact with him as of last week talking to him and his dad. No worries though, would be interesting if they landed him and if not then they still will be markedly improved from last years team.
/2002 UMD was better than whatever shit year MSU won the title.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:54 PM
Well we can gurantee one thing.
Villanova will beat Syracuse twice.
June 16th, 2009 at 3:01 PM
Pittman has the smoothest hands this side of Costanza. Aldrich looks like an epileptic Chenowith out there.
June 16th, 2009 at 3:01 PM
UNC ranked too high at #2 to start the season. I don’t care what the front-line looks like on paper.
Texas should be sick next year. All the R.Barnes haters can join Simmons in his “I don’t know shit about the team” corner. Man built and runs a great program. He has a pipeline of sick recruits for the next 3 years.
MSU will hurt after losing Suton. Guy was a pleasure to watch- mentally ahead of nearly everyone else on the court.
WVU- I’ll never put money on Huggins in the tourney. Team had me bamboozled this year when I forgot about him on the bench
June 16th, 2009 at 3:03 PM
So did everyone else that matters.
And those are the same players that didn’t matter in the last half of last season because they were scared. And Sherron Collins is a fatass who will surely be injured again. Cole is a failed drugtest away from European basketball.
/Fetch’d
//Agree’d. Knock this shit off, TBL.
June 16th, 2009 at 3:04 PM
@Fetch – check your college hockey blog e-mail plz
June 16th, 2009 at 3:05 PM
You have a problem with that? Siena was one of the top 20 teams this past year, I am convinced of that. Hasbrouck is the only loss of any note, and Fran brought in a good recruiting class.
Siena is a legit top 20 team this year, no doubt about it.
June 16th, 2009 at 3:05 PM
Gravy and grease. Nature’s moisturizer
June 16th, 2009 at 3:12 PM
Barnes sucks dick as a coach…period. I watched him run away from Clemson for another football school because he couldn’t stand getting his ass kicked by UNC and Duke every year. The dude gets his shit pushed in by every decent coach with similar talent, it’s not even funny. His in game coaching revolves around yelling obscenities at the refs, and staring dumbly at the court. He owes his entire career to Boogie McIntyre. Texas fans should actually want him to get crappy recruiting classes, because the only good coaching he’s done was with the crap he first had at clemson.
June 16th, 2009 at 3:13 PM
Then why rank them 4?
June 16th, 2009 at 3:13 PM
What if Melo got hurt in 03, how would people view Boeheim? Its bs to say the guy cant win.
June 16th, 2009 at 3:13 PM
TBL really no Butler?
I think yours is the only top 20 list I’ve seen that doesn’t include them. A team ranked in the top 15 for a good part last year that is returning all five players and they get no love. Gotta love being a mid major.
June 16th, 2009 at 3:16 PM
Tallguy: The Lance saga has been all over the map. Sources have said Maryland is in and out of it numerous times. However, a week or so ago Stephenson’s father came out and said MD was in constant contact with them. Frankly, MD may be better off without him. But please don’t take two unnamed sources from a second class paper as a definitive answer as to where the recruitment is going.
As for Dickie V’s darlings. What are they going to do without Gerald Henderson to bail them out this year. When you and the rest of your Duke fans have your special get togethers at Fire Island this summer you should consider that.
June 16th, 2009 at 3:19 PM
I don’t think so, even before the championship, Boeheim was considered a good coach.
June 16th, 2009 at 3:22 PM
So was Huggins, but when you are considered heavy favorites to win the title and the national poy gets hurt what can he do.
June 16th, 2009 at 3:22 PM
Wow, a maryland fan resorting to gay jokes, who would’ve guessed.
As for the loss of Henderson, it’s big. Still, Duke’s winning the ACC this year. They definitely have the most flexible team in the conference, being able to go super huge (Scheyer/Singler/Kelly/Zoubeck/Plumlee), or play small ball (Smith/Williams/Scheyer/Singler/Thomas) depending on what’s working. I’d say roughly the same type season as this year…win ACC, sweet 16/elite 8 with darkhorse final 4 possibilities. Next year though…it’s on like Donkey Kong.
June 16th, 2009 at 3:23 PM
The dude gets his shit pushed in by every decent coach with similar talent, it’s not even funny
I’ll take his 6 sweet 16’s, 2 Elite Eights, and Final Four in the eight years
June 16th, 2009 at 3:24 PM
Read that again and ask yourself why someone used a gay joke about Duke fans
June 16th, 2009 at 3:25 PM
Kentucky: Your 2009-2010 champs!
/just joined in from work
June 16th, 2009 at 3:27 PM
As for Huggins, in his last 9 years at Cincy he made it out of the first weekend just one time. It wasn’t that one year that defined him, but the fact his team was constantly upset in the tourney for a long stretch. I think it’s due to how he typically builds a team- rough and tumble athletes that have trouble scoring
June 16th, 2009 at 3:27 PM
They do make a great folk band.
June 16th, 2009 at 3:30 PM
um…no.
June 16th, 2009 at 3:31 PM
/JUCO’d
June 16th, 2009 at 3:31 PM
Agreed Vince but a NC erases all that. Even Huggins haters admit he had the best team that year. Im not sure they get past MSU, but certainly a Final 4 which would help the resume.
June 16th, 2009 at 3:33 PM
Duder- I’m not as focused on legacy as in my pool and betting strategy for march madness
June 16th, 2009 at 3:33 PM
clown: Who was the last Texas hoops or football player that either
a. wasn’t a colossal flop
b. underachieved relative to the hype he got
I’ll hang up and listen
June 16th, 2009 at 3:35 PM
them getting rolled by dayton was a surprise, hope you jumped on that one.
June 16th, 2009 at 3:36 PM
Kevin Durant
June 16th, 2009 at 3:37 PM
/2002 UMD was better than whatever shit year MSU won the title.
um…no.
um…yes.
June 16th, 2009 at 3:44 PM
uh oh Sterlin now you’ve done it
Fanboy + no analysis coming up. Thanks for unleashing that monster.
June 16th, 2009 at 3:55 PM
jpq: college performance or pros?
June 16th, 2009 at 3:56 PM
So a team that didn’t make the NCAA tourney loses their best player, and picks up a cheating head recruiter/coach, and they are suddenly the #3 team in the nation? wtf is up with that? Granted they own the Vols, but no way is UK the favorite in the SEC over UT.
June 16th, 2009 at 4:00 PM
jpq: college performance or pros?
great Texas college players that went to the pros and didn’t exactly light the world on fire. Butlerboy was right about Durant, but I couldn’t think of another one in hoops (not TJ Ford), and none of quite a few in football (VY, Ricky, Benson, Huff, Williams(x2), off the top of my head)
June 16th, 2009 at 4:11 PM
LaMarcus, Royal Ivey, Chris Mihm (injuries killed him), Brad Buckman (tearing it up in Euro)
Leonard Davis, Phil Dawson, Quentin Jammer, Michael Griffin, Bo Scaife, Casey Hampton, Nathan Vasher
June 16th, 2009 at 4:14 PM
i think you have your answer jpq
June 16th, 2009 at 4:15 PM
no really. they weren’t. The 2002 Maryland team was the worst champion of the last 20 years. we have had this discussion.
June 16th, 2009 at 4:18 PM
Michigan State had a charmin-soft path to the title. They didn’t even play another 1 seed.
June 16th, 2009 at 4:19 PM
davis, dawson and jammer are all decent at best.
hampton is AWESOME and griffin could be damn good too.
you forgot shaun rogers too.
regardless, texas doesn’t have the best track record of producing solid NFL players.
June 16th, 2009 at 4:22 PM
I thought Purdue got to the Final Four with Big Dog? No?
I live in Big 10 country – Big 10 hoops is largely a disgrace. There is no reason, ever, to walk the ball up the court. If that’s how your team plays, your coach is a coward and your players are punks. Pushing the ball after baskets & rebounds – AND – good offensive fundamentals are not mutually exclusive.
June 16th, 2009 at 4:23 PM
duder: you got that right. A regular “Who’s Who” of “Who’s That”
June 16th, 2009 at 4:23 PM
See Sterlin. Don’t say I didn’t warn you.
I will go to my grave thinking Kansas was the best team in 02, but Maryland made them look like dogshit. They just beat the hell out of Gooden down low and he couldn’t do anything. If I remember correctly Collison had a really good game and I know Boschee played pretty well.
June 16th, 2009 at 4:23 PM
We may have had the discussion, but the conclusion you just drew is certainly not the correct one. I would be shocked to see someone put that Jay Williams 2001 team 19th out of the last 20 since they were basically the same team as the 2002 UMD squad. That and UMD played the hardest road they could have for a 1 seed until they hit the final (Nice choke OU/Duke)
June 16th, 2009 at 4:26 PM
Discussions that are stupid:
1) This one
June 16th, 2009 at 4:27 PM
I thought Purdue got to the Final Four with Big Dog? No?
no, Elite 8. Lost to Dook
June 16th, 2009 at 4:28 PM
regardless, texas doesn’t have the best track record of producing solid NFL players
Problem is that high profile busts have hurt the school’s NFL rep, but the school’s alumni have a high record of staying in the league. Don’t ignore Dockery, Blalock, Ced Griffin, and Aaron Ross. I think Huff is played out of position by the Raiders (should be a free safety instead of strong safety).
My friend and I did the exercise comparing Ohio State and Texas- you can pick and choose busts from both schools that came out the last decade.
June 16th, 2009 at 4:30 PM
I’m sorry you’re only familiar with the NFL players who make the cover of Inside Sports and Life magazine
June 16th, 2009 at 4:31 PM
you could do that with any school…
is there i singular program that produces all solid players with no busts?
yes…kent state (gates, james harrison, josh cribbs, abram elam).
June 16th, 2009 at 4:34 PM
@Fetch – Duke, UMD, and KU were 1, 1a, 1b that year. Nothing could distinguish them really. That Final Four game was unreal. UMD got pushed by a solid UCONN team in the tourney that year too.
June 16th, 2009 at 4:35 PM
That must have been painful for you. Its not even close. Although you were smart to cut it off before the 90s because it would have been embarassing.
June 16th, 2009 at 5:02 PM
Sorry for the gay joke Tall guy. I only resort to them when dealing with Duke fans because of the ridiculous way that they pat themselves on the back (especially for a team that has been overhyped for the better part of the last decade.) I actually do not hate Duke the team. I hate their ridiculous front running fan base and the idiot announcer Dickie V who is so objective that his own family shows up to Duke games wearing Duke sweatshirts.
2002 MD team was certainly not the worst Championship team of the last twenty years. We went through a UCONN team that had Caron Butler who was playing absolutely sick ball in the tourney and Okafor who was young but still was a block machine. Wilcox destroyed him. The Kansas team we played in the final four had Drew Gooden, Nick Collison, and Heinrich. If I remember correctly Kanas played Syracuse in the National Championship game the next year and were in a very close game which ended with a blocked shot. That Kansas team did not have Drew Gooden either. And while gooden has amounted to almost nothing in the pro’s he was an excellent college player.
Maryland 02 may have not been the best championship team of the last twenty years but they certainly were not the worst.
June 16th, 2009 at 5:17 PM
Michigan State beat who they beat. They couldn’t control that. But from the start of the tourney, it was known that they were going to win it because they were the best team. When they were 100% healthy that season the annihilated teams. They went into Chapel Hill and put a spanking on North Carolina. By saying that Maryland had a tougher road to the finals is a weak argument. Then you might as well say that Arizona is the best champ of the last 20 years because they beat 3 #1s to win the title, including the favorite at the start of the tourney.
MSU’s defense was suffocating. Don’t believe me, look up the stats. People didn’t score on them. They led the nation in rebounding, of course. They could even score, as evidenced in the NT game when they ran up and down the court with ease.
June 16th, 2009 at 5:24 PM
I’d love to. Michigan State in 2000 allowed 57.37 points per 100 possessions. In the Big 10. Maryland in 2002 allowed 56.31 points per 100 possessions. In the ACC. Not to mention they played the #1 offense that year (Duke) 4 times. Sweet argument.
June 16th, 2009 at 5:28 PM
Ahem, I forgot KenPom had a different engine back in the day. Obviously allowing 57 points per 100 possessions is retarded. However, Maryland’s defense was still better. If you go by stats that is. If you go by cliches like “people didn’t score on them” well then it’s up for debate
June 16th, 2009 at 5:31 PM
The ACC, besides Duke and Marlyand sucked. The Big 10 in 2000 was the highest rated conference in the nation, and was represented by 2 teams in the Final Four.
June 16th, 2009 at 5:33 PM
Big 10 was the best conference in 2000. ACC was mediocre at best in 02.
June 16th, 2009 at 5:36 PM
oh yeah, MSU played without Mateen Cleaves for half of the Big Ten season. one of the best on the ball defenders that year.
June 16th, 2009 at 5:38 PM
Or 3rd best. Either one.
June 16th, 2009 at 5:42 PM
3rd best out of 6 isnt mediocre? Get a dictionary.
June 16th, 2009 at 5:43 PM
That wasn’t that big of a deal that year…they barely got into the tournament that year before going on that ridiculous run. I don’t see how anyone can argue against that MD team…it was sick, period. The only argument you could say was they weren’t considered the most talented team in the nation that year, but they were clearly 1A. Plus, you’re talking about a team that probably should’ve been repeaters. Dixon and co would’ve wiped the floor with the ‘00 MSU team.
June 16th, 2009 at 5:45 PM
There are 6 conferences in D1 basketball? Interesting
I love how the Big 10 gets credit for an 8 seed being in the Final Four, but the ACC doesn’t. Nice work.
June 16th, 2009 at 5:51 PM
Oh so you thought I meant the ACC was around the 15th best conference that year. No, I meant out of the power conferences. Sorry for being so confusing.
June 16th, 2009 at 6:14 PM
i was defending your knock of the Big 10 and their play. They were the best conference that year. Regular season right on through the postseason. I didn’t discredit anything about the ACC’s Final Four reps.
MSU would end up graduating 4 players guys from their title team, and still go to the Final Four the next season, after winning an even more difficult Big 10 title.
June 16th, 2009 at 6:23 PM
The ACC was the second best conf that year, but since they didn’t have to go through “tough battles” of the big ten it doesn’t count.
June 16th, 2009 at 6:33 PM
sterlin- not saying that Maryland had a bad team. I just don’t think they are one of the better champions. They are probably better than the 2003 Syracuse team, but besides that, I wouldn’t pick them over other teams, especially Michigan State’s 20000 team. i’m not the only one:
ESPN thinks MSU was better.
and if you don’t want to go with them, so does Rush the Court. They probably have the best college basketball coverage on the net, with great analysis. So it isn’t just a fanboy that thinks this.
June 16th, 2009 at 6:35 PM
oh, and i don’t think MSU had one of the best 10 teams of the last 20 years either.
June 16th, 2009 at 7:01 PM
Xavier’s gonna be good as always – wouldn’t write down Dayton as a lock yet.
June 16th, 2009 at 7:13 PM
08 Kansas has to be the worst in the last 10 years. Memphis was a better team.
June 16th, 2009 at 7:17 PM
Duder, no way. Kansas was a very good team. I think Bill Self is on his way to being the best coach in the NCAA.
June 16th, 2009 at 7:21 PM
maybe the cuse team.
June 16th, 2009 at 7:23 PM
id take 03 kansas, 05 ill, and 07 osu over several champs
June 16th, 2009 at 7:30 PM
05 unc was probably the best college team i’ve seen since i became a fan of ncaa. first year i watched a ton of games was 2000 when msu won. so in about ten years i’d say they were the best champions i saw play.
June 16th, 2009 at 7:33 PM
05 UNC was pretty damn sweet. but gotta go back to the 90s for the very best. 96 Kentucky, 90 UNLV, 94 Arkansas are my top 3.
June 16th, 2009 at 7:36 PM
agree on the first 2.
June 16th, 2009 at 7:38 PM
If i was old i could say the same thing. haha. just saying since i started watching and seeing dudder say he’d take 05 illini over some champs, they weren’t that good.
June 16th, 2009 at 7:46 PM
05 unc was the best ever but the team they almost lost to in the final was not that good? illinois missed all their 3s and still almost won.
June 16th, 2009 at 7:56 PM
almost.
June 16th, 2009 at 8:03 PM
that illini team was way good.
June 16th, 2009 at 8:04 PM
won my tourney pool in college for $1200 when unc won. fun night.