The 2nd Best Pitcher in Baseball is on the Block*
Baseball, Video July 7th. 2009, 6:39pm
CBS Sports started the “Will Roy Halladay get traded?” business over the weekend, and once the smoke began to clear from the murder of Steve McNair, blog-lover Ken Rosenthal sent the story viral this morning.
Who’s getting Halladay? SI’s Jon Heyman has the Phillies, Yankees and Angels as the early leaders, with the Blue Jays coveting a strong shortstop. (Was the last good SS north of the border Tony Fernandez?) Hmmm. Some of the biggest spenders in baseball. Fancy that. The sad-sack Mets could mortgage the farm and it wouldn’t matter – until the bats get healthy, Johan and Halladay would be nice on paper, and that’s it. Surprised to not see the Red Sox in the discussion – that farm system is loaded, and Beckett-Halladay postseason tandem would be difficult for anyone to overcome.
A portend of things to come over the next month …
* Halladay’s having a terrific season, but it’s Lincecum, people. Come on. There’s no debate here. That’s why all that early-season Greinke stuff was rubbish.
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July 7th, 2009 at 6:41 PM
shouldve gone with the Hornsby version
July 7th, 2009 at 6:44 PM
cubs should trade d. lee or even zambrano’s crazy ass for halladay
July 7th, 2009 at 6:49 PM
1. Halladay
2. Santana
3. Lincecum
July 7th, 2009 at 6:50 PM
Huge – how do you come to that conclusion?
July 7th, 2009 at 6:51 PM
Because when you’re reloading you want old (d. lee), crazy (Zambrano), and expensive (both of them) players in return?
July 7th, 2009 at 6:54 PM
im a cubs fan you cant expect anything i say about baseball to make sense
July 7th, 2009 at 6:55 PM
Now, the man’s name is obviously hugh.
July 7th, 2009 at 6:55 PM
As a Cardinals fan this has been imparted to me since birth.
July 7th, 2009 at 6:56 PM
I’m a Dodgers fan, I hate the Giants.
July 7th, 2009 at 6:57 PM
Haren>Lincecum
July 7th, 2009 at 6:58 PM
i knew there was something about you that i didnt like.
July 7th, 2009 at 6:59 PM
Until this year I would have said Halladay for the same reason Joba’s more valuable as a starter than a reliever: dude chews up innings. Both he and Timmy are excellent, but Timmy has been slightly more excellent with fewer innings. This year Timmy’s got innings AND superpowers though, gotta think he’s number one, at least before accounting for league differences.
July 7th, 2009 at 6:59 PM
Halladay being out there certainly makes things interesting. Seems like everyone was down on the pitching market, but now, you’re going to have a lot of teams interested in Halladay and talking Halladay only to find out there is only a slim shot to get him. That probably makes teams more eager to go after Jason Marquis, Jarrod Washburn or Brad Penny.
July 7th, 2009 at 7:06 PM
Q: What did the mother say to michael jackson at the beach?
A: get out of my son
July 7th, 2009 at 7:14 PM
Dear lord, how good would Halladay’s numbers be if he played in the NL West instead of the AL Beast?
July 7th, 2009 at 7:15 PM
Q: Why did Michael Jackson die?
A: Because he had heart disease but couldn’t beat it.
July 7th, 2009 at 7:15 PM
“What did Michael Jackson say after his funeral? Nothing. He’s dead.”
Lets move on, folks. Kevin Duckworth would want it this way.
July 7th, 2009 at 7:28 PM
clown: Not to mention get to pitch in that park. And if he’s lucky a start or two in Petco
July 7th, 2009 at 7:28 PM
wait kevin duckworth died?
July 7th, 2009 at 7:43 PM
with the Blue Jays coveting a strong shortstop
Paging Doug Melvin…
July 7th, 2009 at 7:45 PM
plus, Halladay and Lincecum aren’t faking an imaginary illness to cover up for their ineffectiveness.
/ty duffy’d
July 7th, 2009 at 7:49 PM
I’m from T.O and keep hearing Roy’s name mentioned, but I didn’t realize he was the 2nd best pitcher in the league? That’s awesome. How are the Jays doing anyways? I think I know about 2 baseball fans in my life..most people here pretty much watch hockey or basketball, or soccer.
2. I hate baseball, but I just had to comment the moment I saw Tupac. Best rapper, dead or alive. Yes I started it.
July 7th, 2009 at 7:52 PM
..and god damn that’s an ugly jersey he’s wearing.
July 7th, 2009 at 7:53 PM
shock g taught 2pack shacker everything he knew.
July 7th, 2009 at 7:57 PM
Shock G? The one who put the satin on your panties?
/I Get Around
July 7th, 2009 at 7:59 PM
dead.
July 7th, 2009 at 8:13 PM
Who’s the best rapper alive? Rakim? I’m talking mass appeal and popularity yet still enough substance to last for a long, long time (..Tupac).
By the way, if you guys like I Get Around, you’ll want to read this:
http://www.xxlmag.com/online/?p=20613
It’s Shock G talking about how the song was made. Pac wrote Shock’s verse! I kinda figured cuz of the “tryin to make a dollar out of 15 cents” part but still interesting.
July 7th, 2009 at 8:27 PM
I’ll take Lincecum over Santana without blinking… and frankly, right now I’d take Matt Cain as well.
July 7th, 2009 at 8:33 PM
Matt Cain’s FIP is totally out of whack with where he’s been, due for a regression.
/Rob Neyer lemming’d
/Dude’s always right
July 7th, 2009 at 8:38 PM
Lincecum is built like Roy Oswalt and will have a similar decline once he reaches about 1,000-1,100 IP. He’s too small to hold up over the long haul. I like Cain long term better than Tim.
And, I’ve heard the White Sox are pushing real hard to acquire Halladay. Remember, they did pretty much trade for Jake Peavy about 5-6 weeks ago.
They would have to give up Tyler Flowers (power hitting catching prospect) or Gordon Beckham. Plus, Aaron Poreda and a host of young arms.
July 7th, 2009 at 8:44 PM
Dear God,
I know I don’t ask for much, but can you please make it anyone but the Phillies or Mets?
Sincerely,
The Braves
July 7th, 2009 at 8:49 PM
sc: you hear about the second offer the tribune co got for the dubs? i just wish this would be ended so the cubs didnt have their hands tied to make moves
July 7th, 2009 at 8:56 PM
I heard.
From what I got off the radio today, it seems like Ricketts’ offer is still in the lead. The 2nd offer is for more money total, but Ricketts offer supplies more cash up front.
Considering that the bankruptcy courts are going to have a say in this due to Tribune filing for protection earlier this year, I would imagine that Ricketts offer will stand up. It would help them pay down their debt faster.
Sam Zell still sucks, though.
July 7th, 2009 at 8:59 PM
Fantasy question…
Do I start Bedard against the Orioles tonight in his first start off the DL? Game is in Seattle.
And, is Aaron Hill a keeper for 2010? Josh Hamilton? I get 2, and I’m stuck with A-Roid for the next 3 seasons probably.
July 7th, 2009 at 8:59 PM
already framing this post for tomorrow, but did you guys see this?
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bal-md.sp.mcnairjul07,0,6421648.story
DUI wed night/thurs am. she then suppposedly (per Tennessean) bought a gun. now Balt Sun is saying she saw the ex-bf thursday. saturday, mcnair gets shot.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:05 PM
TBL -
I really enjoy this site and what you have going here, but you might want to lay off on the daily CSI speculation until all the facts are out. It is popular to say that we are in a 24 hour news cycle age. False. We are now in a 60 minute news cycle age. Read, digest, ruminate, read again, digest ruminate…
July 7th, 2009 at 9:07 PM
it is the quiet ones that are hiding the most. just like eddie murphy said.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:10 PM
kc it is either this story or michael jackson. which one do you want tbl to cover.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:10 PM
Wake me the first time Halladay ever wins a big game. hes 32 and has never pitched a big game. You cant call anyone the best pitcher in the game when they havent done that.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:11 PM
Per the Grienke dis…
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7257
Zach and Lincecum thing – They aren’t that far a part condsidering the Royals have an Independent League level defense.
/Oh Lawdy, the Royals D is so horrible.
//Just happy to have a legit Royal in the All-Star game instead of the one per team mandated crap.
///Not intentionally piling on TBL.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:11 PM
just putting the facts on the table as they’ve been reported by other outlets … i’ll leave the CSI-ness for the actual post. Played some hoops today with some guys and everyone offered up their guesses, as this story’s all over the news. of the 8 dudes playing, 6 didn’t think it was her.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:14 PM
I’m betting on those two lookers from the grassy knoll.
/Zoolander’d
July 7th, 2009 at 9:14 PM
tbl do your thing…shit this is getting interesting as fuck ecspecially if they find that she didnt kill him. speculation is what makes the blogosphere go round.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:15 PM
McNair killed Michael Jackson, who was a personal friend of Kazemi. It was a payback hit.
/securing that penthouse apartment in hell that overlooks the Lake of Fire.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:15 PM
KC – when looking for motive, this could end up being another sad case like Bison Dele or the three guys (one on the raiders) who died on the boat (a 4th survived). we’ll just never know.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:16 PM
we’re different than the face and body boys
July 7th, 2009 at 9:16 PM
kc it is either this story or michael jackson. which one do you want tbl to cover. Mrejr
Brett Favre. Kidding. There is a difference between covering and speculating wildly on each post. He may be right and then considered a savant, but there is so much info not out that he may just end up looking silly.
Also, speaking to that, I find it humorous that Deadspin is taking some moral high ground on this story. Fucking black pots and kettles and such with their “Deleted Scenes” nonsense and other wild speculation they deal with on a weekly basis. Daulerio has lost a lot of respect with his obvious hypocrisy.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:17 PM
/fix’d
July 7th, 2009 at 9:18 PM
Deadspin does not approve that comment, KC.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:19 PM
Send Bunk and McNulty down to Tennessee and this case will be in the black by tomorrow morning
July 7th, 2009 at 9:19 PM
the winners in that case? us.
/thats a bannin’
July 7th, 2009 at 9:19 PM
i haven’t ‘done’ anything … there’s no original reporting here. based on the facts, you could think any one of a dozen things happened
July 7th, 2009 at 9:21 PM
TBL -
As you say, “just one man’s opinion.” No disrespect. Just what I’m thinking about all this. That and when the hell does college football get going. Goodness, I’m getting the chills.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:21 PM
I wonder what Paolo thinks of all this.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:22 PM
better TV cop, Jimmy Smits or McNulty? I’m not really counting the guy on nypd who showed his rear, that guy was a clown.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:22 PM
i know but people are telling you to slow down on the speculation. im saying that there isnt anything wrong with putting scenarios out there. it isnt like you’re saying “this is it! this is what happened!” your just telling us what you have found via news and the web.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:23 PM
new tbl slogan?
July 7th, 2009 at 9:24 PM
Andy Sipowitz
July 7th, 2009 at 9:26 PM
the benson/stabler combo, easily.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:26 PM
Lennie Brisco
July 7th, 2009 at 9:26 PM
Not quite.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:27 PM
Frank Drebin, Police Squad.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:27 PM
George Francisco.
/FTW!
July 7th, 2009 at 9:28 PM
@YYSA: At the very least, McNulty would have boned a hot reporter and be nursing a massive Jameson hangover by morning.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:29 PM
Drebin, technically, was in a movie (or did they make it a series?)
What was the name of the cop in night court? Tall bald dude? And was he a cop, or just a court cop?
July 7th, 2009 at 9:29 PM
Oops, wrong link.
Here.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:29 PM
bull was a bailiff
July 7th, 2009 at 9:30 PM
Police Squad! was the show. It came before the movies.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:31 PM
Joe Friday
/da da.da.da
July 7th, 2009 at 9:32 PM
Walker, Texas Ranger
/i win
July 7th, 2009 at 9:33 PM
TBL I am going to kill your baseball friend for claiming Scott Baker was going to have a break out year. He is god awful. Granted I think he’s still hurt, and Ron Gardenhire can’t fill out a lineup card, but still. Just awful.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:33 PM
Walker vs. Attack Helicopter.
You can assume who wins…sadly, no roundhouse kicks involved.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:35 PM
@fetch- the fuck is up with Kevin Slowey? First he gets drilled, then Cueto. My ERA in the last two days is north of 60.00
July 7th, 2009 at 9:36 PM
Inspector Willoughby.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:37 PM
fetch – in his defense the buddy who keeps selling him on baker and two other guys is in an MLB front office. i can’t say the other guys or it’d give away the team.
im just glad i have washburn. nice to see wainwrigt off to a nice start
July 7th, 2009 at 9:37 PM
SC: he was hurt for his starts. He should be fine once he comes back.
Gomez just robbed A-Rod of a grand slam. Holla.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:38 PM
ok mistah mare, feast your ears on that spin doctors mix!!
July 7th, 2009 at 9:40 PM
TBL: at second glance, he hasn’t been terrible. All his numbers are the same he’s just giving up more homers than usual. And the outfields that the Twins put out there are dogshit most of the time. Not good for a flyball pitcher.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:42 PM
Come on Nick
July 7th, 2009 at 9:46 PM
@YYSA: At the very least, McNulty would have boned a hot reporter and be nursing a massive Jameson hangover by morning.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:47 PM
Nice, triston. If only there were a way to embed that gif in a comment section.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:50 PM
T.J. Hooker
July 7th, 2009 at 9:54 PM
of course a white dude. wheres francis poncherello.
/thats racist
July 7th, 2009 at 9:57 PM
Well he could have said Vic Mackey
July 7th, 2009 at 9:59 PM
mandatory office viewing at 1030 (the 10 will be good, too)
July 7th, 2009 at 9:59 PM
Told ya the Phils wouldn’t score more than 3 runs tonight.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:01 PM
better TV cop, Jimmy Smits or McNulty?
T.J. Hooker
Just read in the paper that there will Be a TJ Hooker movie.
/serious.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:02 PM
remember when hollywood made original movies?
July 7th, 2009 at 10:03 PM
just watched children of men. why were they hiding the fact that she had a baby? everyone on earth would have treated that chick like gold.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:05 PM
I have the Police Squad! DVD, it’s such a great show. And shame on you for not knowing that existed.
/25 copies of Moby Dick
//The movie or the book?
///They made a book out of that?
July 7th, 2009 at 10:07 PM
Columbo solves the crime in 46 minutes… Easily the best detective ever on TV.
Peter Falk’s Columbo is barely beaten out by the movies’ Hercule Poirot. Hercule would laugh in the face of this “mystery”…
July 7th, 2009 at 10:07 PM
Come on moleman everybody knows thats from Airheads
July 7th, 2009 at 10:08 PM
I like Bones
/not really a cop
//she has big boobs
July 7th, 2009 at 10:08 PM
i know gil grissom isnt technically a cop but that dude gets the confession like 99% of the time.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:09 PM
I’m sure he was joking. Right, TBL? (pleadingly)
July 7th, 2009 at 10:09 PM
office over seinfeld, right?
head-to-head
Michael > Jerry
Dwight > Kramer
George > ?
Pam > Elaine
July 7th, 2009 at 10:10 PM
The greatness of George slaughters them all. Oh and no way Pam is better then Elaine
July 7th, 2009 at 10:10 PM
I’m sure he was joking. Right, TBL? (pleadingly)
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office over seinfeld, right?
he wasn’t joking
July 7th, 2009 at 10:11 PM
Woah now.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:11 PM
wow. hernia might never talk you again
July 7th, 2009 at 10:11 PM
No chance. I didn’t particularly love Seinfeld, but it is iconic in nature.
The Office is limited in its appeal and doesn’t have nearly the staying power that Seinfeld had (and still has).
July 7th, 2009 at 10:11 PM
This is the best TV cop ever, no contest.
/jpq still uses that phone in the pic
July 7th, 2009 at 10:11 PM
No. Maybe Dwight over Kramer (BLASPHEMY!) but that is it.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:12 PM
not at all familiar with a show that happened in 1982 and lasted a season.
liked the movies, though.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:13 PM
Pam’s cuter, a better dancer … Pam is wayyyyyy more crushable.
Elaine was a great character, no doubt … i lean Pam.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:14 PM
Ditto… Great genes in that family
July 7th, 2009 at 10:16 PM
Better dancer? I beg to differ
July 7th, 2009 at 10:17 PM
(wondering if the guy has his actual resume)
dwight: what does it say under martial arts training?
dwight: oooo. im going to have to supplement that. can i have your fax number?
July 7th, 2009 at 10:18 PM
julia louis-dreyfuss is a total milf. really aged well. let me know what beasley looks like when she is jld’s age
July 7th, 2009 at 10:18 PM
Elaine is way hotter than Pam. No contest.
/And I like Pam.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:19 PM
Office>Seinfeld?
You’re insane.
The greatness of George and the side characters (Uncle Leo, Newman, Kruger) made Seinfeld. Jerry was garbage.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:21 PM
Office>Seinfeld?
You’re insane.
agree 1000%
I think the Office is HORRIBLE
/yeah, I said it
//and I mean it
July 7th, 2009 at 10:22 PM
newman and some of the other side characters have a huge adv over some other folks … but the core players on the office were stronger.
it’s biggest sin is that it’s not a NY show … hence it wasn’t as lapped up by the NY media
Pam over Elaine. that could easily be a post this week.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:22 PM
First, they didn’t want her to be used as a political football. Second, they wanted to get her to that ship with the project people (it’s been a couple years since I’ve watched) so that she could help them figure out how to restore fertility to everyone. Third, she’s an immigrant, so she wouldn’t be too kindly looked upon by the Brits.
Damn good movie, definitely recommended to anyone that hasn’t seen it.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:23 PM
/jmorris’d?
July 7th, 2009 at 10:23 PM
Yeah. I go Seinfeld over Office too. No question.
And JLD got wayyyyy hotter as that series went on. If there was only one sponge, I’d choose Elaine.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:24 PM
Sounds like you should put it to a vote
July 7th, 2009 at 10:25 PM
Good point.
George Costanza is probably my favorite TV character ever.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:25 PM
I said this as well but it really is actually the greatness of Larry David.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:26 PM
dwight: what does it say under martial arts training?
dwight: oooo. im going to have to supplement that. can i have your fax number?
tbl: over the years, you have posted about 50 little lines like this from the Office in posts. I have never once found any of them even remotely funny. Granted, I watched about 4 episodes, but found it tried WAY too hard to be smart and funny.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:26 PM
TBL, I love Office, nearly as much as you, and I wasn’t a big Seinfeld guy, but you’re way off here. There’s nobody out there quoting Office right now (except me and you), and people are still picking scenes out of nowhere to prove their point 10 years later on Seinfeld.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:26 PM
Remember…there is a populace here that chose Megan Fox over Bar Rafaeli. I’m still pissed that happened. I even voted for EA in the final just to spite Fox.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:27 PM
“Office” suffers from the “Malcolm in the Middle” syndrome: its not funny, yet the media and everyone else I know keeps trying to tell me how funny it is.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:28 PM
jpq – you are on EST, right? PLEASE turn it to TBS at 1030. for me? come on, buddy. please do it. you will really like the episode.
and yes, i realize in terms of cultural relevance, Seinfeld destroys the OFfice
July 7th, 2009 at 10:28 PM
Damn good movie, definitely recommended to anyone that hasn’t seen it.
I’m nowhere near as high on that movie as tallguy. I would actually un-recommend that you watch it, unless you really like British movies, or are gay for Clive Owen.
It’s a future war no babies movie with Julianne Moore and no ginger vagina.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:30 PM
Not only did Erik Bedard give us Adam Jones, George Sherrill, and Chris Tillman, but he also gave us two runs in the first inning. I fucking love that guy.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:31 PM
Love The Office, but it’s Seinfeld and not particularly close.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:31 PM
Tragic, it was.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:31 PM
oh, and i still watch and laugh at seinfeld episodes. the last few seasons sucked … but the first 5-6 were off the charts.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:32 PM
I might be the worst GM in fantasy sports this year.
Paul Konerko has 3 HRs and 7 RBIs….on. my. bench.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:33 PM
office over seinfeld, right?
Yes, easily.
/Never got into Seinfeld.
//Although, The Office is on its last legs.
///Seinfeld will win the Longevity Award.
Trey Hillman and his moustache look like Wyatt Earp in Tombstone.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:34 PM
LeBron-gate?
July 7th, 2009 at 10:34 PM
TBL- Thats because Larry David left after season 7. I recommend you watch Curb Your Enthusiasm if you already don’t.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:34 PM
re: Megan vs. Bar … sounds like someone’s not a fan of tats …
July 7th, 2009 at 10:34 PM
creed is the best character on the office. problem is hes only on for about 30 seconds each episode.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:34 PM
tbl: It’s on (even though my wife just got pissed because she’s watching some MJ thing on 20/20 and stormed off to the bedroom to watch it there).
/like the commercial w/ the comedian channeling Seinfeld they just showed
July 7th, 2009 at 10:34 PM
Seinfeld is often called the greatest sitcom ever, with the likes of I Love Lucy and Honeymooners. Office…not so much.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:35 PM
Seinfeld is often called the greatest sitcom ever, with the likes of I Love Lucy, cosby show, and Honeymooners. Office…not so much.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:35 PM
LeBron-gate (forgot link, sorry)
http://gary-parrish.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/6271764/15942689
July 7th, 2009 at 10:35 PM
YYSS – never seen Curb.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:35 PM
Seinfeld was amazing. I’m pretty sure I’ve seen every sinlge episode at least 3-5 times, some way more than that, and I still enjoy it.
Same could be said for The Wire, I’ve watched all five seasons of that at least five times.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:36 PM
What’s the longest running sitcom you can think of that just sucked the whole time?
July 7th, 2009 at 10:36 PM
damn you, longriver. you just stole my first post tomorrow (pic set, etc). figured it was obscure enough that not many people would hvae seen it.
THANKS, MAN!
/yeah, email that shit to me, man
July 7th, 2009 at 10:36 PM
Bar might be the one girl I could agree with being above Megan Fox. It’s an extremely short list.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:37 PM
Yes, in this case you are. Konerko owns the Indians like his bitch. Jesus, does the Tribe suck. I cannot watch them without my blood pressure going into heart attack territory.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:37 PM
Whoops.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:38 PM
That has something to do with it TBL, but Bar is still hotter. And yes, I realize I’m in the minority here.
/Plaxico shooting himself should’ve won that thing
July 7th, 2009 at 10:39 PM
Oh crap, the Wire. What an amazing show. I’m gonna get shit for this, but it was better than the Sopranos but didn’t bring in the viewers.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:39 PM
MASH?
July 7th, 2009 at 10:39 PM
Seinfeld is often called the greatest sitcom ever, with the likes of I Love Lucy, cosby show, and Honeymooners. Office…not so much.
/piling on
July 7th, 2009 at 10:41 PM
Bar and thousands of others without tacky gigantic tatoos on their forearms. Also additional thousands that don’t look like they need a haz-mat suit to approach without catching something communicable.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:41 PM
GSG: from what i saw of the wire(just the first season) when i had hbo and watched it over the winter ondemand i would have to agree with you.that show hooked me faster than the sopranos
July 7th, 2009 at 10:42 PM
Looks like DJ Whoo Kid will be using a new partner on his mix-tapes.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:42 PM
@dirt: Yes, Dear. Two and a half men. According to Jim.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:42 PM
Epic Fail… It was a comedy. It was a drama. It was incredibly written. Still not as good as the movie, but a great, great TV show…
July 7th, 2009 at 10:42 PM
MASH?
That’s longrunning. I was thinking more Dharma and Greg.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:44 PM
I swear to you, The Wire really might be the best show ever. Not even exaggerating. I’m biased I guess, but still, it’s unreal.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:44 PM
Grace Under Fire
July 7th, 2009 at 10:44 PM
alda’s constant whining got on my nerves. and yes i know it was a fail.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:45 PM
sweet fucking jesus, 182 episodes of according to jim. That’s awful.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:46 PM
Fucking fantastic. Bedard was kind enough to give us 2 runs in the first, only for Guthrie’s stupid ass to give the Mariners 3 back in the first.
Guthrie’s a headcase. Guy can’t get out of the first inning to save his life.
Headcase, by the way, is a funny show. Just tossing it out there.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:46 PM
Mrejr go find some dvds of it. Greatest drama I’ve even seen, and I’m one of those tv losers.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:46 PM
Even Greg Daniels would pick Seinfeld over The Office.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:46 PM
I think we have a winner right there… wait… or is that a loser?
That is a show I can say I have NEVER watched.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:48 PM
Grace Under Fire
That show was so gross. Just putrid. The worst part is how many shitty episodes I’ve seen.
In Mrejr’s defense, he was humoring me, which I appreciate. He also got somebody else to answer my stupid question.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:48 PM
Very well written and well excecuted show with very solid acting and character development. But as far as actual entertainment value, the Shield was non-stop craziness for seven seasons. And the ending was the best series ending of all shows in the mix for “best ever.”
July 7th, 2009 at 10:48 PM
1 simpsons
2 seinfeld
3 grace under fire
July 7th, 2009 at 10:51 PM
every one is forgetting cheers…that show was the seinfeld of the 80’s
July 7th, 2009 at 10:52 PM
I actually thought Frasier was a better written show than Seinfeld. (and the Emmy people agreed)
/ducking and running
July 7th, 2009 at 10:53 PM
So what I’m looking for now is a sitcom that was as bad as According to Jim that also ran longer than 182 episodes.
It’s out there, and I know the answer. Although I’ll concede that According to Jim is the winner.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:53 PM
every one is trying to forget the 80’s
July 7th, 2009 at 10:54 PM
Jim Belushi made a career off of “Hey, remember my brothers talent?!”
July 7th, 2009 at 10:59 PM
Animal House is way overrated
July 7th, 2009 at 11:00 PM
Holy fuck, Grace Under Fire was terrible. I remember that show now…after looking it up.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:00 PM
I actually liked The Principal, even if it was a formulaic piece of 80’s crap. That scary black guy, who played the scary black high school kid, he was scary. Plus, Rae Dawn Chong.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:01 PM
WHY COULDN’T IT HAVE BEEN YOU AND NOT YOUR BROTHER!
/Walk the line’d
July 7th, 2009 at 11:01 PM
Shut your mouth.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:01 PM
the nanny….awful awful awful show.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:01 PM
Duder, me and you are seeing eye to eye far too often now. Maybe b/c it’s dated..but I am just not impressed with it – perhaps too many movies have stolen from it, who knows.
My favorite comedy is and will always be Airplane! My favorite show: Soap. That show was ahead of its time.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:06 PM
My answer was Family Matters aka Urkel, which ran for 240 episodes.
I would also have accepted Full House.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:09 PM
Soap is fucking classic, and Airplane is my favorite comedy ever.
/adds nothing to convo
July 7th, 2009 at 11:10 PM
Airplane is great, think the first Naked Gun is better. Heard about Soap never seen it.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:10 PM
I don’t even think Big Lots sells that DVD.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:12 PM
Can you imagine that going over today on the networks? Racist humor, gay humor, asian/jews/italians – all in the line of fire (not a WWII joke) Wow things have changed.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:12 PM
But the correct answer is Roseanne. I’d rather contract pig AIDS from a needle at a flea market than ever watch another episode of that white trash show.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:14 PM
bottom scroll on espn says the medical examiner would be “very surprised” if mcnair’s death isn’t ruled murder-suicide
July 7th, 2009 at 11:14 PM
So if every time your girlfriend leaves your place you can’t help but think how horrible of a person she is, it’s probably time to tell her to back the eff off right.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:14 PM
/sorry to get off topic
July 7th, 2009 at 11:15 PM
you think roseanne is worse than married with children? both complete filth but at least roseanne had some realism.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:16 PM
Yeah, it’s probably time, fetch.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:16 PM
No way. Now how. No chance. Great show. Gonna take shit for it and don’t care. Excellent, excellent show.
@fetch – She’ll probably try and and beat you to punch.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:16 PM
Disagree – that show had some great writers as well, guys that have surfaced on some other major shows/projects/late shows. True story talked about in the writing community – On the first day after the show got signed on by ABC, writers were brought in from Lampoon and other IVY league comedy groups. She mentioned her idea about opening up a “loose meat” store. Four of the writers had never even heard “loose meat.” And were fired on the spot.
I thought it was a very clever show and the acting was incredible. Seriously.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:17 PM
roseanne is terrible
/never seen an episode
July 7th, 2009 at 11:22 PM
Never got into Rosanne, of course by my time it was reruns.
“Always Sunny” is the only “comedy” show I watch religiously nowadays, although I guess Entourage would count, too.
Anybody see the first episode of “Hung”? Could be weird / hilarious.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:22 PM
Surprised you say that since it’s where Sarah Chalke got her big break.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:24 PM
I thought the first episode of Hung was pretty funny
July 7th, 2009 at 11:24 PM
Loose meat was the only thing decent on that show. That shit is good, especially from the places that fry it in beer.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:27 PM
That was pretty great.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:28 PM
Now we just have to see if Hung can keep it up over and entire season.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:34 PM
I’m with you, I cannot stand that show. But the movie is one of my favorites.
And the best non animated show of all time is Doctor Who. Bitches.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:37 PM
Late to the party, but RE: Halladay, let the Phillies overpay for him. They’ll still have the second best rotation in the division, and will have to give up enough that it will weaken their farm system, and quicken the ascent of Toronto. Making the MLB playoffs, and by extension, winning the World Series depends on the savviness of the front office, not how much money they spend. That’s how the rich get poorer and the poor get richer.
[throws mic at a certain know-it-all commenter]
[mic hits said commenter in chest, and falls to the stage floor]
[poses like Eddie Murphy at the end of Raw as feedback fills the auditorium]
July 7th, 2009 at 11:37 PM
The Office had 2 good seasons. then shit the bed.
How I Met Your Mother is a terrific show. Lots of quotable stuff on there.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:40 PM
Does King of the Hill count for the long running sitcom that sucked even though it’s animated? If so, this contest is over.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:41 PM
I like How I Met Your Mother but I am finding it increasingly hard because I hate the main character.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:44 PM
I like How I Met Your Mother but I am finding it increasingly hard because I hate the main character
I agree. It’s tough to watch a show for 4 years where every episode is based on him finding his true love. But the other characters are terrific. Especially Barney. He is Legen… wait for it…
July 7th, 2009 at 11:46 PM
I don’t know if its just the way they made him or if its the actor. He is just dominated by the rest of the cast
July 7th, 2009 at 11:46 PM
Does King of the Hill count for the long running sitcom that sucked even though it’s animated?
Anybody else from Texas that enjoys this show? I know I do, although nobody I met in Pittsburgh did
July 7th, 2009 at 11:47 PM
You do a post like this and include all of those actions at the bottom but forget to /jmorris’d?!?
/that’s a bannin’
July 7th, 2009 at 11:51 PM
Gonzo – I hope you’re not lactose intolerant.
SC – Sheeeeyyiitt. That shit ain’t from Wikipedia.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:52 PM
looks like we have a BBC snob in the house
July 7th, 2009 at 11:53 PM
Legen…
Gonzo – I hope you’re not lactose intolerant
…dairy
July 7th, 2009 at 11:53 PM
I dont know what the Phils are going to give. Donald and Corrasco I guess. Or Drabek maybe?
July 7th, 2009 at 11:57 PM
I’m tellin’ you guys…
Odds Makers: Chances Halladay ends up in a White Sox uni?
80%
July 7th, 2009 at 11:58 PM
Not really, aside from the fact that I own the sixteen disc Monty Python box set I really don’t watch any other BBC shows. All the Doctor Who spinoffs suck and I couldn’t name any of their sitcoms. I just assume most of their shows are reality shows which end up here six months later with a different name.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:59 PM
Fetch, I have a feeling it’s going to take 3 out of Drabek, Michael Taylor, Donald, Carasco, and Savory. We’ve never had so many good prospects at one time. EVER. I don’t know if I wanna give up Drabek or Taylor. Call me crazy.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:59 PM
It would have to be for Beckham and Poreda at least. As a Twins fan I would endorse that deal.
July 8th, 2009 at 12:02 AM
@fetch- Poreda, Flowers and a few other arms. Won’t have to include Beckham if they include Flowers.
July 8th, 2009 at 12:04 AM
All very good examples of why this is a bad deal for the buying team. If you need to pick up a bat before the deadline, you can do so, at a somewhat reasonable price. If you need a starting pitcher, it’s probably not worth it.
July 8th, 2009 at 12:08 AM
SC: Ricciardi said he wanted a premium SS preferably.
July 8th, 2009 at 12:09 AM
Braves need an arm lefty. In the bullpen. And tell Mike Gonzalez I’m sick of looking at his delivery. It’s making me nauseated.
@mole – I replied to your comment..
July 8th, 2009 at 12:09 AM
Lefty, last year we had half the roster home grown. We never had a winning team like that since the late 70s. The Phillies are always reluctant to trade prospects. Been like that since forever. In my opinion, we won’t get Halladay.
July 8th, 2009 at 12:10 AM
Oh sweet, I can look forward to there being no improvement season to season for four more years. Awesome news, awesome.
July 8th, 2009 at 12:11 AM
Oh, and if you didn’t see this mole, you’ll want to read me rip my own team.
Rumor has it, Tallon is going to get fired next Monday. Talked to a buddy of mine that works for the Hawks.
July 8th, 2009 at 12:11 AM
hahaha. At least a disease isn’t buying the Pirates!
(seriously though I don’t see how a change in ownership will change anything for the Cubs, not that I’m saying you were suggesting that, but some people were acting like Cuban would save that team)
July 8th, 2009 at 12:12 AM
What a head of hair!
July 8th, 2009 at 12:13 AM
On the bright side: Back to back golds baby.
I would say I want the Twins to make a trade (though not for Halladay) but Bill Smith making a trade scares the shit out of me
July 8th, 2009 at 12:13 AM
I know! I had to use that picture when I found it.
July 8th, 2009 at 12:16 AM
For as much as you bash Gardenhire fetch, he’s done a pretty good job with that team. Not easy to win with that payroll and they compete every, single year.
July 8th, 2009 at 12:19 AM
Gonzo – The Phillies are just the name I picked out of the group listed. I don’t envision much movement on that front at all, actually. Like I said, it’s not worth it.
July 8th, 2009 at 12:19 AM
True, SC. Theyd be doing better with Gomez in CF every game. And with a manager who could manage a bullpen
July 8th, 2009 at 5:45 AM
I’d love to see Boston get in a 3-way trade for Doc. We (obviously) do not have a premium SS. But we do have some damn good pitching prospects to get a premium SS to get Halladay.
Too bad it will never happen because JP refuses to deal within the division. You gotta think what Boston has to offer would be a good match for what Toronto’s looking for. Guess we’ll never know.
July 8th, 2009 at 7:47 AM
He might be the 2nd best overall, but he’s the best in Canada. Yankees need to make this happen.
July 8th, 2009 at 8:01 AM
seriously?
seinfeld was a team effort…think the pats over the rams in the super bowl. or the pistons over the lakers.
i bet seinfeld reruns still get better ratings than the office.