Mark Cuban and Don Nelson Really Hate Each Other
NBA July 24th. 2009, 2:15pm
A steele cage match seems to be the only way to settle the differences between pugnacious Mark Cuban and the oddball Don Nelson. This is how petty it got: They argued over a hug.
Cuban and Nelson were in general agreement about the decision behind Nelson’s stepping down – he was a Mavs consultant for one year before taking the Golden State job – and Johnson’s replacing him as head coach.
They said they had a cordial private meeting, after which they may or may not have hugged, depending on which version one believes. During the arbitration, it was mentioned to Nelson that he said during his deposition that Cuban did not hug back.
“I don’t know,” Nelson said at the arbitration. “Who cares?”
Cuban’s recollection? “I hugged him. He didn’t hug me back. I know a Nellie hug, and that was not a Nellie hug.”
NBA reality show: Those two “adults” running a basketball team.
There’s also testimony from Nelson in which he describes being so disgusted with Cuban that he signed a contract to stay on as coach in 2003 only after friends “got me drunk.”
Donnie Nelson, his son, was obsessed for whatever reason with “a big Russian” – believed to be 7-foot-5 Pavel Podkolzin. He wanted to take him 5th in the 2004 draft. Eventually someone smacked some sense into him because he drafted Devin Harris … but then traded later in the draft to take Podkolzin 21st. Podkolzin played 28 minutes in two seasons with Dallas and is no longer in the league.
Sure sounds like a move worthy of the No. 2-rated personnel boss in the league (in 2007).
Clash between Mavericks owner, ex-coach detailed in transcripts (Dallas Morning News)
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July 24th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
I never get tired of this Nellie pic.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
that’s quite solid.
im partial to this one for some reason, probably because it sums up don nelson’s coaching style perfectly.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
I’m not quite certain what the second part of this post about Nelson’s son drafting a shitty player has to do with Cuban and Nelson Sr. hating each other.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Cuban, shut up and buy the Indians
July 24th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
He’s from there, right? That’d be good for baseball.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
UH…YES PLEASE!!!!!!
July 24th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
“Brothers don’t shake hands, brothers hug …”
July 24th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
http://images.usatoday.com/sports/_photos/2007/02/06/nelson.jpg
July 24th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
i can’t find the pic of nelson drinking a beer at a presser…this is angering me greatly.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Off Topic, but Bobby Cox gets tossed from games so much and he doesn’t even look like he get that worked up. He probably just goes out there and calls the guys wife a whore, gets tossed, then goes and sips scotch, and doesn’t have to worry about job security.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
that was right before he signed the contract.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
spencer: this is probably not it. but i don’t know what’s going on in this picture.
http://www.cantstopthebleeding.com/img/nelson0131.jpg
also: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_YWT7uGfZ0d0/RkEIOdYdMQI/AAAAAAAAACU/YvIKwFDELB0/s320/nelliebrew.jpg
July 24th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
Further off topic: Good discussion in the Tebow post this morning. But if Tebow’s not the most popular athlete in the state, I’ll be stunned.
Compare with Dwight Howard:
Football > basketball. Two titles > no rings. Heisman > NBA DPOY. “Yes, I am” > kids out of wedlock. And, of course, in Florida, white > black.
Marino’s another story, but I think he really doesn’t resonate north of Lake Okeechobee like some think, and I know his star’s sort of forgotten. Tebow’s not huge in Miami, either, but there’s more state north of Havana North than there is south of it.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
And, of course, in Florida, white > black
I bet you wish you could have deleted that
July 24th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
@andy- nobody likes wade down there?
July 24th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
@Spencer: This is the closest I can find to that year he was openly boozing after each win.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
DAMNIT!!!
looks like godfather stern erased made sure those pics never show up on the interwebs again.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
Sign of the rapture: Irish and I are in total agreement.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
I don’t, really, sadly. I know full well that we’ve still got a lot of old and backwards people around here. If the rumors/open secret about Crist’s homosexuality were better known, I don’t think he could’ve been elected, on that basis.
Race has similar connotations. It’s getting better, yeah, but seeing Chris Leak go through what he went through and measuring that against Tebow’s hero’s welcome at every point in his career is informative. (More on that here.)
Wade’s a much bigger Miami thing than in Florida in general. People here also bandwagon like there’s no tomorrow, so I would not be surprised to know 2009 Magic fans who were 2006 Heat fans, especially because Wade was hurt and limited for a while there.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
How is Florida that much different in race relations than Indiana, or Nebraska? If it were two athletes with resumes like you posted, the one with the titles and the Heisman would always be more popular. If all things were equal, yeah, the white dude will get more recognition, but the two resumes aren’t close.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
Rockabye- you are also a Gator student/fan, so of course you are going to say Tebow is the most popular athelte. I’m going with Tiger
July 24th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
*athlete. long week
July 24th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
What a bunch of bull shit.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Tiger doesn’t really belong to Florida, though; he just lives here, after growing up in Cali and going to Stanford. DH has been in Orlando since age 18, so he belongs a little more.
And, yeah, I’ll cop to a UF bias. But: It’s the biggest state school and Florida grads are everywhere, plus it’s the big school in the middle of the state (sorry, USF/UCF), meaning Tebow’s popular in the I-4 corridor, Jacksonville (where he’s from), and the north-central area around Alachua.
Tiger’s a much better argument than Howard, though.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Dwight Howard and Wade get laid more.. Therefore, Howard and Wade > Tebow. Take advantage of your status young man!
July 24th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
andy- great read.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
Tiger’s a much better argument than Howard, though
the only reason i brought up Howard, was the fact that Orlando Sentinel conducted a poll showing Howard was more popular than Teboner(56%- 44%). right after they won the NC
July 24th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
Tiger’s a much better argument than Howard
Tiger’s from Cali so you have no frame of reference here. You’re like a child who walks in to the middle of a movie and wants…….
July 24th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
You weren’t in Florida, for the hype about Tebow as a high schooler and a freshman, before he’d done anything? Trust me when I say he started at a higher rung than Howard, and has been climbing faster, too.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Another thing we can agree on. I came home last night from trivia to find my 10-year-old black lab dead in the living room. I fucking loved that dog like a child. I’m exhausted and want this day to end so badly.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
I understand that, but the resumes don’t match. You aren’t comparing apples-to-apples in my opinion.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Tiger’s from Cali so you have no frame of reference here. You’re like a child who walks in to the middle of a movie and wants…….
me?
July 24th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
Howard has fans throughout the state because he’s a national star. Tebow’s base is the corridor that Andy spoke of. Outside of that, Tebow is respected but not seen as a God.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
from cali…split homes between cali and florida since 1994 and been living in florida since 1996.
that’s over a decade and, anywyas, all pro golf belongs to florida.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Another thing we can agree on. I came home last night from trivia to find my 10-year-old black lab dead in the living room. I fucking loved that dog like a child. I’m exhausted and want this day to end so badly.
that’s supremely shitty dude. Condolences.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
Tebow’s base is the corridor that Andy spoke of
i said the same thing this AM
Sorry to hear bout that Gods
July 24th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
that sucks gods…sucks bad.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
me?
No, I’m just talkin bullshit Irish. Throwin Lebowski quotes in there. Didn’t realize Tiger’s been in Florida over a decade. Dude’s got houses all over the country so I don’t know if you can establish a pro golfer from one area.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
oh and yeah Gods that sucks man, sorry to hear bout that
July 24th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
It was a total bummer. I got the dog when I was 16. He was the first dog that was truly mine in that I had full responibility of him, etc.. He even came to college with me. The other guys I lived with are bummed as well. Just an all around shitty event. It happens, I guess, but it sure does suck.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Labs are great fuckin dogs too.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
Dude, beware the replacement baby.
speaking of, I have 1 extra Brittany, if you want a 6 year old dog sans balls.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Fuck that. My wife and I are so far away from kids and we both agree on that. I will eventually get another dog, but not for a while.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
true.
i guess if it has to go tho, id rather my dog just give out. my pooch is 11 and she’s had cancer the last two years and has aged so incredibly fast that she’s not the dog i used to remember. it’ll be sad when she goes, but…
July 24th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
My lab had never had any issues of any kind. My dad’s has been hit by a bus and has had over 15 siezures. His lab is the same age and mine was and he is still alive and kicking. Strange how that works.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
but…
Fuck Michigan?
July 24th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
Man super sorry to hear about that, what a bummer. I’ve had to go through that twice, once with my childhood dog, and then again with a dog I got in college. It’s not easy. Try to keep your thoughts positive, 10 years is a solid life span for a dog. It sounds like he was well loved for those 10 years. Can’t ask for more than that if you are a dog.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
dogs are weird like that. my buddy from canada has had three, female, all black great danes…two of them died on his back deck when he let them out in the morning when they were both 5 and the other made it back inside. just up and died. fucking weird shit.
we got our dog from my aunt who had a litter and ours is the only one still kicking even tho she was the first one to have a serious disease.
dogs are just…weird.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
fuck michigan, indeed.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
My golden (my college dog) got cancer, had to put her down at 6 years-old. Sucked big time watching her go from 70lbs to 30lbs. That article Simmons wrote awhile back brought tears to my eyes at work it hit close to home. Dogs are fucking awesome.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
condolences dude…shit
July 24th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
That is bizarre. I’ve heard Danes tend to die early because of their makeup, but that is crazy.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
A quick take on the Tebow V.S. Howard thing.
I think it’s regional. If you put the two of them with the same resumes in New York, lets say Tebow at Syracuse and Howard for the Knicks, Howard would be way more popular.
Or even if you just switched their race and left everything else the same, Tebow as a black dude would still be more popular in Florida than Howard as a while dude because SEC football is king in the South.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
now the question that needs to be answered is , where was vick at when gods was at trivia?
/trying to lighten the mood
July 24th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
That was his best article I have ever read. Had I read that this morning for the first time I would have been a total wreck.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Wow, that’s really terrible man. Sorry to hear that.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
That was funny.
July 24th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Gods, I feel for you. Dogs are awesome. May I suggest you visit the pound and give a good home to a deserving dog before they are put down.