hate ‘em

That huge cheating scandal consisted of a ‘creative’ deferred payment structure to Elway and TD. It didn’t provide them with any material gain on the field.

doesn’t deferring them money allow them to get/keep other players, which in turn leads to a competitive advantage?

Not trying to say they didn’t deserve punishment–although taking away a 3d round pick was ludicrous–but half the teams in the league were doing that in the early days of the cap.

I’m sure Bowlen would trade a 3rd rounder in for two rings. Also, the “everyone else was doing it” argument has been used already on this thread for the Steelers and steroids. Can’t use a lousy excuse more than once/thread

/TBL parliamentary procedure

Bowlen circumvented the cap for the Elway ones also.

I didn’t know you were a Raiders fan.

That huge cheating scandal consisted of a ‘creative’ deferred payment structure to Elway and TD. It didn’t provide them with any material gain on the field.

Not trying to say they didn’t deserve punishment–although taking away a 3d round pick was ludicrous–but half the teams in the league were doing that in the early days of the cap.

I do a fair amount of work in algorithms and statistical analysis and the problem with their methodology is that 16 games isn’t a statistically significant number of observations to draw any concrete conclusions from. When you are dealing with small observation sets a single entity can have too great of an affect on the outcome. When you run algorithms through their paces you see wildly varying outcomes when data sets are small and then convergence to the real value as your observations increase, and quite often not until you start dealing with thousands of observations.

But hey, I’ve only spent years studying computer science and performing some pretty complex data analysis, what do I know.

/not trying to be a condescending dick, but FO is trash

Other large cities that people never seem to say neat things about: Columbus, Memphis, San Jose, Albuquerque.

San Jose is bleh. And trust me that there are many valid reasons people don’t say neat things about Albuquerque. *shudder*

That place was beautiful in the summer. I could move to Denver tomorrow and not worry about a thing.

Shhhhh. We want everyone to think it snows sideways all year.

I never meant for the “weather” argument to go this far. I was simply pointing out that Mike and his love of stats is ridiculous because it factors nothing into the equation except stats, when there are many unforeseen and unaccountable factors that go into accumulation of said statistics.

Not quite. The FO numbers factor practically everything in except weather, which is all you have to hang your hat on.

What makes Ben such a great QB?

Your “rings” argument notwithstanding, of course.

whatever…it wasn’t that funny anyways.

And saying he’s gay makes you Skip Bayless, which makes you gay.

oh yea? well that also makes me rick bayless’ brother which means im eating fine mexican food whenever the fuck i please which makes you gay by some logic i can’t explain.

bitch.