Let the Braylon Edwards Bidding Begin!
NFL October 6th. 2009, 5:45pm
Braylon Edwards didn’t catch a pass Sunday. Later that night, he allegedly punched out a Cleveland club promoter. One columnist is calling for Edwards to be suspended. LeBron James, the patron Saint of Ohio, called Edwards’ actions Sunday night “childish.” (Braylon Edwards tweeted that he has no beef with LeBron.) Edwards is coming off a dismal 2008 season in which he was best known for dropping passes. He is a Michigan player living in Ohio State territory. There appears to be very little chance of him returning to the Browns in 2010.
Do you sell him now when his value is lowest, or trade him before he walks at the end of the season when his contract expires?
The Jets should inquire about him, STAT. They need a potentially-elite wide receiver. Edwards, regardless of his struggles in his last 20 games, fits that description. The Jets reportedly pursued Brandon Marshall when he was sparring with Denver and its rookie coach in the preseason; they allegedly tampered with San Francisco’s 1st round pick, Michael Crabtree. They are in the market for a receiver.
This is not a slight to New York’s No. 1 wideout, Jerricho Cotchery, who is in the Top 10 in the NFL in receptions and yards. But clearly, the Jets weakness is its passing game, and if you give a rookie QB a weapon like Edwards, it will force safeties to respect the passing game and back off the line, perhaps creating more room to operate for Thomas Jones, Leon Washington, and Shonn Greene. Right now, there isn’t a Jets’ WR that commands double teams.
Chansi Stuckey, the Jets’ No. 2 WR, is a 7th round draft pick in only his second year. Their 3rd WR, Brad Smith, is a converted QB from Missouri who seems to operate best out of the wildcat. Their 4th WR is David Clowney, another 2nd year smurf whose current claim to fame is that he is in Rex Ryan’s doghouse (understandably) because he tweeted that he wants the ball more. Among 3-1 or 4-0 teams, this is by far the weakest receiving corps in the league.
The Jets were exposed offensively against the Saints. Waiting for the receiver-heavy 2010 draft is one option; the addition of Edwards now, for perhaps a 4th round draft pick, would be a much smarter move. The Jets already hoodwinked the Browns in the 2009 draft by trading up to get Mark San-chise, why not try to go to that well again?
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October 6th, 2009 at 5:46 PM
Then why are we talking about Braylon Edwards?
Also what about the other teams that need a receiver? Another Jet post? Ugh.
October 6th, 2009 at 5:49 PM
(insert joke)
October 6th, 2009 at 5:51 PM
An elite wide receiver doesn’t say he is one, he proves he is one on the field. Oh, and performs the primary function of being a wide receiver at the highest level: CATCHING THE DAMN FOOTBALL.
October 6th, 2009 at 5:53 PM
They’re Super Bowl-bound, haven’t you heard? Besides, Mankok will probably trade him to the Pats for a fifth and a seventh, just like every other dumbass team in the league hands them talent.
October 6th, 2009 at 5:54 PM
Shouldn’t this post be titled “I, Jason McIntyre, would like Braylon Edwards on the Jets.”
October 6th, 2009 at 5:55 PM
hoodwinked? the guy has played 4 games.
i wouldn’t start sucking your dick yet.
but feel free to give the browns a draft pick for braylon…he gone.
October 6th, 2009 at 5:57 PM
+1o1
October 6th, 2009 at 5:58 PM
Simmons talked about the incident on his podcast today. Funny shit.
October 6th, 2009 at 5:59 PM
he can go to the jets to run routes only to watch sackchez get sacked over and over again or he can come to chicago and become a super duper star
October 6th, 2009 at 6:00 PM
Assuming you mean doing it to himself, why would anyone ever stop in the first place?
October 6th, 2009 at 6:02 PM
TBL craves every player that is someone else’s nightmare. You are the Daniel Snyder of fandom. The guy sucks, is a major diva, will want $50 million over the next five years, completely screwing up your cap/salary structure.
Come to think of it, what am I saying, as a Bills fan, go get him
October 6th, 2009 at 6:03 PM
fair enough on ‘hoodwinked’
really, who has a weaker WR corps than the Jets?
Raiders?
49ers?
Dolphins?
October 6th, 2009 at 6:03 PM
But he is pretty. Think of the Sanchez/Edwards modeling photos.
October 6th, 2009 at 6:04 PM
He’s the malcontent with the dropsies, right? Sounds like a great addition for any organization.
October 6th, 2009 at 6:04 PM
Raiders?
49ers?
Dolphins?
Rams. The answer is always Rams. They have Butterfingers Avery, Keenan Burton, and a bunch of guys that were street free agents two weeks ago.
October 6th, 2009 at 6:05 PM
Bears. Next question.
October 6th, 2009 at 6:05 PM
titans have a pretty weak wr corp. could be the qb though
October 6th, 2009 at 6:05 PM
this just seems like “get my favorite team a player” post …
but as the post says, the Jets went after 2 WRs in the last 2 months.
Edwards had 1 very good year, one down year, and this year he doesn’t look good … but consider the guys throwing to him.
October 6th, 2009 at 6:05 PM
I’d like to see that pussy drop a 50 yard bomb in the Meadowlands to lose a game and see how he handles the fans. Who would he blame then?
Raiders?
49ers?
Dolphins?
You could add/debate:
Ravens
Titans
Browns
Redskins
Seahawks
Rams
Buccaneers
October 6th, 2009 at 6:07 PM
them too. imagine how dangerous they would be with say matt jones. why dont they sign matt jones. he is fucking huge and fast. i honestly dont care if he is snorting a mountain of coke every night. i want him on the bears.
October 6th, 2009 at 6:08 PM
yea…bad choice of words.
i meant HIMSELF.
/shoots self in head
October 6th, 2009 at 6:08 PM
Not any more dangerous than they currently are? Matt Jones sucks. This site’s going to set a liquid intake record for fans drinking their teams’ early-season Sunkist.
October 6th, 2009 at 6:09 PM
you mean the same guy throwing him the ball that got him to the pro bowl in 2007?
October 6th, 2009 at 6:10 PM
he was making strides with a leftwich and garrard throwing to him. i think he would become a beast with cutler.
October 6th, 2009 at 6:10 PM
Go to hell Braylon
October 6th, 2009 at 6:11 PM
imagine how dangerous Cutler would be with say matt jones
they’d be driving Cutler to County General in the Chris Farley Memorial ambulance every Sunday night in a diabetic coma and toxic shock from the blow
October 6th, 2009 at 6:12 PM
Needs more naked Lithgow.
October 6th, 2009 at 6:13 PM
Perform and no one gives a fuck. I hate it when Braylon uses this excuse for his two left hands and poor route running
October 6th, 2009 at 6:15 PM
no shit.
October 6th, 2009 at 6:24 PM
As a Browns fan and tOSU alum, the Michigan player living in Ohio State territory thing is the biggest load of horse shit going. At a game, or in a bar watching a game, the only time I’ve ever heard the disparaging, throwaway comment of “fuckin’ Michifuck player” is when he’s completely sucking. Other than that, we could give a shit where you went to school as long as you perform on the field and don’t rape baby seals*.
*negotiable. we’re cleveland fans after all. can’t be too picky.
October 6th, 2009 at 6:28 PM
where’s Tampa Bo?
October 6th, 2009 at 6:31 PM
Although I think WR is an issue for the Jets, I don’t think it should be our priority. Our secondary sucks, we should build on that first.
Right now I think Cotchery and Keller are fine targets for Sanchez. Right now they’re looking for a #2 receiver. Keller has stepped up, though.
October 6th, 2009 at 6:36 PM
jesus christ, TBS, HOW OLD IS RICK PORCELLO?! YOU HAVEN’T TOLD ME YET!
October 6th, 2009 at 6:44 PM
I’m sorry, it’s getting a bit misty in here.
October 6th, 2009 at 6:53 PM
…did anyone else just hear that we’re going to bomb the moon?
October 6th, 2009 at 6:56 PM
Went to work an hour early, fuck, i’m an idiot
October 6th, 2009 at 6:56 PM
Lloyd Christmas is going to be very disappointed in this latest moon development.
October 6th, 2009 at 6:57 PM
I think Franchez would be a better nickname than Sanchise
October 6th, 2009 at 6:57 PM
He’s like 20. Surely the youngest person to ever play well in a big game in the history of ever
/media says history lasts 12 minutes
October 6th, 2009 at 6:59 PM
well we got to get our practice in before we nuke the middle east.
October 6th, 2009 at 6:59 PM
Hall of Famer?
October 6th, 2009 at 7:04 PM
i would say yes. but the naysayers will say that he shouldnt get in because the colts won like right after he left with a rookie replacement. but if you just look at the man’s stats he is a hall of famer.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:09 PM
I’m curious. Tell me more.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:09 PM
Steve Smith > Braylon Edwards
Mario Manningham > Braylon Edwards
Hakeem Nicks > Braylon Edwards
October 6th, 2009 at 7:11 PM
id say no with a caveat…i’d put him in over emmitt smith.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:16 PM
If not for Curtis Martin, he probably would be, but Martin’s career yardage total makes it hard to create a compelling argument for Edge based on stats alone. At his peak he blew Martin out of the water, but he probably needed to average about a yard per carry more in his first two seasons in the desert to clinch it.
Too bad, though. As I’ve said many times, before he tore his ACL and lost that second gear he was as good a back as had come into the league in a long, long time.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:19 PM
edge was one of the best pass blocking RB’s since sweetness and was as good of a pass catcher as LDT and roger craig.
fantastic player…just a notch short. definitely better than mr. debacled tho.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:20 PM
bsanders- also think the success of several running backs on that team when they filled in for Edge during his injury, and the success of the team winning the Super Bowl with productive backs after he left hurts him as well. much like it does Tiki Barber.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:22 PM
curtis martin gets in. if edge can find a good batch of hgh or whatever and can put together a good season or 2 (not likely) he could be able to get in
October 6th, 2009 at 7:24 PM
Bsanders, you meant nude Trinity.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:26 PM
Yeah, not being on the Super Bowl-winning team hurts, but like Spence said, he was the best combo of pass blocker/catcher since Payton. His problem was when he came back from his ACL he lost the second gear that made him such a dynamic runner his first two years. For years 4-7 with the Colts he was more of a reliable “four yards and not much after” kinda guy. Polian freely admits he ran him into the ground, and his playoff performances as a result were the main reason Polian went to the split-back system beginning in 2006.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:28 PM
lets see who’s getting in tho…debacled, curtis martin, marshall faulk, probably bettis (boo)…then he’s probably have to deal with LDT retiring around the same time.
edge and tiki are right on that fringe…they’ll probably get some votes, but…
October 6th, 2009 at 7:30 PM
i don’t see Tiki getting close.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:30 PM
I’ve already told you what I think, and my basis for Edge not getting in is Curtis Martin, who I also think doesn’t get in (at least for 20 years).
The Colts can have 3 guys, and there’s no way Edge is one of those three.
Great player, though, don’t get me wrong.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:30 PM
and there goes the Tiger’s season…
/too early to call it?
October 6th, 2009 at 7:31 PM
Edge would get in over Tiki, Tiki doesn’t have the numbers. I think Martin will get in, but he’s like the Palmeiro of RB’s to me. Kind of a healthier Fred Taylor, never really the top guy. Then again, I wouldn’t put Bettis in if I had a vote, but I don’t, so he’ll get in.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:31 PM
WHAT!??!?! but he played in NYC!!! NYC!!! that has to count for, like, a million HOF points!!!
/sparty’d
October 6th, 2009 at 7:31 PM
tiki shouldnt get in just based on the fact that he makes people vomit whenever he opens his mouth.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:32 PM
I should apologize to Tigers fans, this is partly my fault.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:33 PM
Manning and Harrison, obviously. Tarik Glenn played in the same era as Ogden and Pace and doesn’t have the Pro Bowls, so he’s out. Saturday doesn’t have the Pro Bowls, but he might have the best chance out of the remainder of this Colts’ group unless Dwight Freeney remains elite for another five years so he can steer far clear of Strahan and J. Taylor.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:33 PM
if fragile fred wasnt fragile he would have put up some monster numbers.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:35 PM
Set Detroit on fire now!
October 6th, 2009 at 7:36 PM
Fu-Te Ni?
They’re just fucking with us now.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:38 PM
if dermontti dawson doesn’t get in, neither does saturday.
centers and guards, unless they’re truly spectucular, don’t get into the HOF…brian waters probably won’t get in, faneca doesn’t have a chance…hutch is probably the one guy who has a legit shot as far as interior linemen go…just too replaceable a position and too hard to see who’s truly elite.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:39 PM
Man, that 18 million option Detroit let Magglio vest really looks stupid now.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:40 PM
his last few years were fantastic, but didn’t get it done early in his career, too many fumbles, not enough TDs. and i think when there is consistency on an offensive line and you plug in a guy at rb and that team doesn’t miss a beat in the running game, it should slight the previous guy. this shows the awesomeness of Barry Sanders.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:41 PM
it’s early, but Snee could be on his way.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:42 PM
I think they both get in. Linemen are gradually becoming more appreciated (even the interior guys) and both those guys are considered “elite” players by the general fan at this point.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:42 PM
True, if the media had fallen in love with Saturday prior to his Wilfork pancake in ‘06 he’d have a good shot, I just think everyone jumped on the Saturday train too late in his career. Plus, he’s never been dominating and his performances against Jamal Williams in the playoffs in ‘07 and ‘08 and the Pats in ‘03 and ‘04 and his meltdown against Pittsburgh in ‘05 have to hurt. But what am I saying, voters don’t break things down like that.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:43 PM
If he doesn’t get in, every voter that doesn’t vote for him should be banned from voting ever again.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:43 PM
Mike Munchak made it to the Hall not long after he retired. They put a few of them in. Pulling guards really aren’t that replaceable. You can jam a short armed tackle in there, but that doesn’t make him a great guard.
What hurts some of the really good ones is that longevity is the #1 criterium, which is bullshit. You shouldn’t need 16 years just to prove you’re great.
I think Dawson goes in, in the next 2 years (I hope, that is). Saturday’s got name recognition, and even a signature play, which not a lot of linemen have.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:44 PM
wow. tie game.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:44 PM
Way to make me eat my words magglio.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:44 PM
Fucking Magglio. At least the people who are getting shitted on by the Media are doing work.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:45 PM
it’s early, but Snee could be on his way.
he’s as good as there is right now, hutchinson included. Hutchinson has a bonehead play on his resume this season that should have cost Minny a game (he got hurdled on a blocked FG for TD).
October 6th, 2009 at 7:45 PM
if fragile fred wasnt fragile his nickname wouldn’t make any sense
/fixed
October 6th, 2009 at 7:46 PM
Now wouldn’t it have been smarter to pitch Nathan in the eigth against the heart of the order?
October 6th, 2009 at 7:46 PM
That’s true, and most voters will probably overlook his role in the Pittsburgh debacle. But Colts fans remember. Not his finest hour.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:48 PM
if dermontti dawson doesn’t get in, interior linemen shouldn’t get in. he was a pulling center. i can’t imagine how athletic he had to be to get up an around to make those blocks.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:48 PM
curtis martin a hall of famer?! does testaverde get in too?
October 6th, 2009 at 7:48 PM
both of these are wrong.
this is the age of blindside. LT’s get the pub, RT’s are more appreciated and guards and centers are essentially bit players. it doesn’t matter that G/C are more appreciated because as “more appreciated” as they are, there’s like 300 WR’s who have boomed in the passing age and will get in because they get all the recognition.
linemen get the shaft…and when you think that pace, ogden, walter jones, and willie roaf are going to be getting their gold blazers, then naturally, the inside guys are getitng overloooked.
and i think it’s a crime, personally, but at the same time, this is the world we live in. look at the HOF linemen…there aren’t a ton when you consider how many QB/RB/WR’s are in there.
plus…gates and gonzales are going to get a ton of votes. there’s 8 TE’s in the HOF…that takes away form the interior guys.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:49 PM
Too true. Tom Nalen only won two Super Bowls and led an offensive line that annually ranked in the Top 5 in rushing throughout his entire career, and he won’t even get a courtesy tug.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:49 PM
It’s not his fault. Jets fans are dickheads. For some reason they always think the Jets are just one someone-else’s-trash player away from a Super Bowl run.
/Jets fan
//Edwards sucks, but I’d gladly take him if it meant people would stop bringing up Brandon Marshall
October 6th, 2009 at 7:50 PM
amen brother.
for all the pub that the steelers three HC’s since the 70’s have got, for a HUGE stretch, webster and dawson were their only centers. that’s fucking impressive.
in my opinion, he’s a first ballot. i saw all sorts of film on him in grade school and high school…he truly was a freak. a athletic TE in a C’s body.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:50 PM
i dont get this. are you saying those 4 should not get in the hof?
October 6th, 2009 at 7:51 PM
Shit, I forgot about Jones and Roaf being in the same era as those two. Yeah, Tarik Glenn has zero chance.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:51 PM
isn’t gary zimmerman still on the outside? that’s a crime.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:52 PM
That’s true, and most voters will probably overlook his role in the Pittsburgh debacle. But Colts fans remember. Not his finest hour.
In the rest of the world, Peyton caught all the heat.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:53 PM
Nah, he finally made it last year. Only the second(!!) Bronco in the Hall–and he played half his career somewhere else.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:53 PM
They all certainly should, and so should Dawson and Hutchinson, but somebody’s going to be getting shafted. You got Curtis Martin, Bettis, Marvin Harrison, TO, Moss, Issac Bruce, Debacled, and however many QB’s they can possibly throw up there to put in. Warren Sapp and D. Brooks, too. And Chris Carter still hasn’t gotten in. Tim Brown. Deion. Jeez, it has to suck to be an elite interior linemen or defender.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:53 PM
im saying tackles aren’t interior linemen. ogden, pace, roaf and jones are all first or second ballot guys. no doubt.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:55 PM
john randle deserves to get in too.
cris carter and tim brown should’ve been in instead of that possession WR, art monk. now THAT’S a fucking joke. monk…please. who knew voters were subject to peer pressure?
October 6th, 2009 at 7:55 PM
Man, Willie Roaf was a goddamned animal. If he had come to Denver instead of KC like we thought…fuck.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:56 PM
id put edge in over martin and bettis
October 6th, 2009 at 7:56 PM
It’s the way it is. For some reason, Manning IS the team, while Brady’s PART of the team. The Pats’ Super Bowl against the Giants was eerily similiar to the Colts’ loss against the Steelers, but the fallout coverage was very different. Oh well, it’s the way it is.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:56 PM
for all the pub that the steelers three HC’s since the 70’s have got, for a HUGE stretch, webster and dawson were their only centers.
yeah, bookend those 2 with ray mansfield and jeff hartings, and they had 4 centers in like 45 years.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:56 PM
Anyone with a 97 or better consistently o Madden gets a vote with me.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:57 PM
The Art Monk thing was ridiculous. One of the few subjects upon which I agree with Peter King, so I’ll even borrow his phrase–Hall of Fame, not Hall of Very Good.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:57 PM
For his size, what he accomplished was nothing short of remarkable. What a stud.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:57 PM
this is fucking incredible.
quoted for incredible-ness.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:58 PM
Nathan looks like shit. All signs point to booze.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:58 PM
john randle deserves to get in too.
no. Bryant Young, maybe. John Randle was just a bunch of noise and face makeup.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:58 PM
fixed for accuracy.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:58 PM
as long as grossi keeps modell out im good
October 6th, 2009 at 8:01 PM
He voted for him
October 6th, 2009 at 8:01 PM
just looked it up. mansfield joined the steelers in 1964. hartings retired after 2006. 43 seasons, 4 centers.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:01 PM
and a ridiculous amount of sacks for a DT…like him or not, he was the prototype for today’s tampa 2, quick DT’s. he was incredible.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:01 PM
Randle was useless as a run defender, tho.
Not that that will stop him from going in, if the voters are in the mood to have another Fred Dean moment.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:01 PM
The dude was a six-time all pro with almost 140 sacks, what more do you want?
October 6th, 2009 at 8:02 PM
as long as the HOF resides an hour from cleveland, i have a feeling modell won’t get in…and even if he flukes his way in there, some browns fan will keep stealing his bust, over and over and over and over and over until the HOF just gives up and kicks him out for good.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:03 PM
And Eric Dickerson, other than his rookie year, was borderline useless as a receiver, but he has a gold jacket.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:03 PM
anyone remember chris “im trying to be the white john randle” hovan? i wish i was there when it dawned on him that it takes more than face paint and douchiness to be randle.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:04 PM
The dude was a six-time all pro with almost 140 sacks, what more do you want?
my personal criteria are 7 pro bowls and 144 sacks.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:04 PM
I did not like him, obviously, fucking putz. Who was the guy he played next to? There were two of them. I’m stuck on Stubblefield and Bryant.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:04 PM
And Eric Dickerson, other than his rookie year, was borderline useless as a receiver, but he has a gold jacket.
and a jheri curl and rec specs.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:05 PM
lebron leaving would leave the city depressed for like a year but modell getting in the hof would cause riots for years. obama would have to quarantine the city.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:06 PM
And Eric Dickerson, other than his rookie year, was borderline useless as a receiver, but he has a gold jacket.
I promise you, there is no way for me to explain to you how good Eric Dickerson was. I HATED Dickerson, but motherfuck was he good.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:07 PM
One note on Modell – he, the former Browns and the NFL have long tried to say he was pivotal in the record television contract negotiations for the NFl in the early 70’s. That is very manufactured. The AFL owners were the ones who got the rates increased a ton, and the the NFL piggy-backed on that, as their previous bid was going to actually be less, for more games, than the AFL offer. Another example of Modell ineptness when it came to football. But nobody is willing to mention those facts of course….
October 6th, 2009 at 8:08 PM
yes, modell did some good for the NFL.
but moving the browns and firing the greatest coach in NFL history are two huge strikes. HUGE.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:08 PM
Sorry, I should have been more clear: one of the few subjects upon which I agreed with him before he knuckled under to peer pressure. He toted the No Monk banner for quite some time…
October 6th, 2009 at 8:08 PM
lebron leaving would leave the city depressed for like a year but modell getting in the hof would cause riots for years. obama would have to quarantine the city.
I’ve had years to accept LBJ is leaving.. I cannot believe Modell will ever get in. That said, I was 100% sure some crazy Clevelander would have completed a successful assassination of him and his family before the move.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:09 PM
Oh, I know. He still brought it when he was in Indy. I’m just saying, he didn’t do much as a receiver, like Randle didn’t do much against the run. Obviously, it’s more important for a DT to be a credible run defender, but the analogy makes SOME sense. Dickerson was the shit.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:09 PM
but moving the browns and firing the greatest coach in NFL history are two huge strikes. HUGE.
spence, you’re confused. chuck noll wasn’t fired, he quit to take the steelers head coaching job.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:09 PM
Joe Horn fucked Willie Roafs wife.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:10 PM
so i was trying to find John Randle’s interior Dline mate (jerry ball) and I ended up with another HOF guard. Randall McDaniel.
Plus, I just thought of Jesse Sapolo.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:10 PM
really llking this gretzky piece so far. good stuff.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:11 PM
eric dickerson was a bad man. I saw his last game as a Ram (MNF in CLE)… every time he touched the ball you were PETRIFIED he would take it to the house. if he had a glimpse of freedom that was all she wrote…
October 6th, 2009 at 8:11 PM
But catching passes, for your average back, is hardly as important as defending the run is for a DT.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:13 PM
all i know about chuck knoll is that hes from cleveland and won a couple championships with the browns. after that its a blur.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:13 PM
you mean a twig on paul brown’s coaching tree?
please.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:13 PM
great bunt/slide
October 6th, 2009 at 8:13 PM
you two are both confused because George S. Halas was never fired
October 6th, 2009 at 8:13 PM
Does Lorenzo Neal get in when he’s done?
October 6th, 2009 at 8:14 PM
to refresh everyone’s memory, chuck noll won 4 super bowls and presided over the greatest assemblage of football talent that there ever was.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:15 PM
FUCK NO.
/love him, but FUCK NO
October 6th, 2009 at 8:15 PM
if he is kept out someone should burn down the hall of fame because it is the fraudiest fraud of frauds
October 6th, 2009 at 8:15 PM
you two are both confused because George S. Halas was never fired
Lombardi > Halas
October 6th, 2009 at 8:15 PM
Did he do the injections, too?
October 6th, 2009 at 8:16 PM
2105 with 5.6 ypc. I think he also had 18 or 19 straight 100 yard games. He was a machine.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:16 PM
Okay, just throwing out random names now. Aeneas Williams, yes or no?
October 6th, 2009 at 8:16 PM
no chance on neal. its kind of like putting in a reliever in baseball. not good enough to be a real rb/starting pitcher. makes it nearly impossible.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:16 PM
i agree he was an all time great, but he’s a FB. they get even less love than G/C/TE combined.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:17 PM
you dont bitch about lineman not getting their due and say the greatest blocking fullback evar doesnt get in the hall of fame. how man RBs owe neal their 1000 yard seasons?
October 6th, 2009 at 8:17 PM
to refresh everyone’s memory, chuck noll won 4 super bowls and presided over the greatest assemblage of football talent that there ever was.
He coached the Dallas Cowboys in 1992 and 1993?
October 6th, 2009 at 8:17 PM
top 5
1. Lombardi
2. Landry
3. Noll
4. Halas
5. ???
October 6th, 2009 at 8:17 PM
borderline. REALLY borderline.
i say no tho.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:17 PM
im out…yall have a good night.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:19 PM
Will Shields, yes or no?
October 6th, 2009 at 8:19 PM
Okay, just throwing out random names now. Aeneas Williams, yes or no?
Corner is tough, but that guy was greater than great. There’s going to be a backlog until Deion goes in, though.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:19 PM
Bill Walsh
October 6th, 2009 at 8:20 PM
Will Shields, yes or no?
he’s behind a lot of the people we just mentioned, and his position gets no respect.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:20 PM
Don Shula coached in 5 superbowls. That’s got to be worth something.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:21 PM
True, plus he did it with two franchises. And I didn’t notice Paul Brown wasn’t on that top five list, so I guess bump Bill Walsh.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:22 PM
spencer if you’re reading this maggs should get in the chewing baccy HOF. he has a ‘UGE dip in right now.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:24 PM
Top 5 lists don’t work. You sort of have to do top 5 lists in the distant past, and then again in the past. There’s too many guys.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:24 PM
Plus, Don Shula had to preside over a franchise that was filled with guys who used to be his teammates, which had to be tough. Earning the respect of Unitas had to be difficult.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:25 PM
Shula and Brown for sure… Walsh has to be at least top 10
October 6th, 2009 at 8:26 PM
And Belichick has to be up there, as he had to work within the salary cap and he’s made the personnel decisions.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:27 PM
but did he work the cameras?
October 6th, 2009 at 8:28 PM
Not a chance…He couldn’t get the white balance right.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:32 PM
good point Dirt, I guess 20 year splits might work, or comparing just the teams in the salary cap era
October 6th, 2009 at 8:35 PM
joe mauer has a runner in scoring position in the 9th and can’t bring him in. mvp my ass.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:37 PM
Yeah, Jeter would’ve definitely gotten him in.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:42 PM
Yeah, Jeter would’ve definitely gotten him in.
yup. cap’n jetes has the best intangibles in the league. he’d have figured out a way
October 6th, 2009 at 8:44 PM
this game’s still on????
Had a hoops game at 7, back and showered, and the game’s still on. damn.
anyway, we lost. again. 0-4. Played a pretty good team, but we had a shot. trailed by 5 at the break. i was terrible in the 1st half. got on a hot streak early in the second, scored (i think) 14 of our first 20 (4 three’s) and we were within 48-46.
they had a bit too much size for us in the final 8 mins. also, they hit no shots from the perimeter in the 1st half … we went zone and they finally started hitting shots. sucks.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:50 PM
if dermontti dawson doesn’t get in, neither does saturday.
Kent Hull was a better Jeff Saturday, and he hasn’t even gotten a sniff
October 6th, 2009 at 8:51 PM
wow
October 6th, 2009 at 8:54 PM
Rayburn should have to wear a gimp mask after that one.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:55 PM
Wow, that could make the ride back to Detroit awkward for Raburn. Could being the key word.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:58 PM
This is all Cabrera’s fault
October 6th, 2009 at 8:58 PM
as that run scored, i could see a guy going crazy wearing a favre vikes jersey. that guy doesn’t deserve joy.
October 6th, 2009 at 9:00 PM
as that run scored, i could see a guy going crazy wearing a favre vikes jersey. that guy doesn’t deserve joy.
spicious: your pic went from this to what looks like it was taken looking into a 55 gallon drum. what’s the new one supposed to be?
October 6th, 2009 at 9:00 PM
pretty fucking good make up by raburn
October 6th, 2009 at 9:02 PM
WOW. Reminded me of Junior scoring for the Mariners and Pudge tagging the guy out for the Marlins in 93 (I was at that game)
October 6th, 2009 at 9:03 PM
this game is amazing.
October 6th, 2009 at 9:04 PM
So why wasn’t Detroit at DP depth on the 3 hopper up the middle to tie the game? Not sure that they would have turned the DP, but it certainly wouldn’t have been 1st and 3rd with 1 out…
Turned out OK, but that was a colossal mistake by the Marlboro Man.
October 6th, 2009 at 9:05 PM
@jpq,
i got a little freaked out seeing my own face up there.
in the spring, my nephew sent me his flat stanley for his school project. i was in dallas with the girlfriend visiting her family, and went to the book depository museum. the picture is of flat stanley as the second shooter peering over the fence behind the grassy knoll. its pretty awesome full size, not so good as a thumbnail
October 6th, 2009 at 9:05 PM
JPQ michael moore on Hannity!
October 6th, 2009 at 9:05 PM
Pudge tagging the guy out for the Marlins in 03 (I was at that game)
93 wouldn’t have meant too much-lol
October 6th, 2009 at 9:06 PM
guy on third wally, they had the infield in to try and prevent the run.
October 6th, 2009 at 9:06 PM
JPQ michael moore on Hannity!
Dumb & Dumber!!
October 6th, 2009 at 9:06 PM
Wow. Great find by the camera crew. Huge screw up by the guy on 3rd for not immediately tagging up. Any kid learns that in TEE BALL.
October 6th, 2009 at 9:07 PM
These announcers, however, are awful. “Ron Gardehire said this morning that he’s got a team full of ballplayers. And none more so than Nick Punto.” I don’t know what language this is, but somebody needs to translate it into English.
October 6th, 2009 at 9:08 PM
Sir -
I get that there was the guy on 3rd. But, on turf, the chances of a DP would be awfully high on ground balls… I’d be more worried about losing in that situation than giving up the tying run.
October 6th, 2009 at 9:12 PM
In the 9th with batters 1st and 3rd and no outs, Polanco was struck out by a pitch about 4 inches inside. They start of course praising the pitch, and then show the actual pitch which just about Polanco and then decided to just clam up. After that I started listening to the new Ghostface.
October 6th, 2009 at 9:14 PM
Great game, just wish there were fewer regular season games so that there were more meaningful ones like this.
October 6th, 2009 at 9:14 PM
Buck has screwed up several times… He said a “line drive base hit” on the line drive that Rayburn caught and subsequently threw home for the double play.
I think he did the same thing on the line drive by Magglio in the 9th.
Someone following his screw-ups better than me will have a field day in the morning.
October 6th, 2009 at 9:15 PM
i’m calling it: mauer walk-off shot
October 6th, 2009 at 9:17 PM
someone was saying earlier that we have seen pretty much everything baseball has to offer and while that may be true i dont think i could ever get tired of seeing a outfield gun down a runner attempting to tag up on 3rd and make it home. baseball is still awesome.
October 6th, 2009 at 9:18 PM
If there were significantly fewer regular season games you wouldn’t get the best teams in the playoffs consistently. I understand that most people (unlike myself) don’t enjoy every day of the regular baseball season, but they play a lot of games because it takes a lot of games to establish the better teams.
October 6th, 2009 at 9:19 PM
i didn’t say this inning
October 6th, 2009 at 9:19 PM
How do you arrive at that conclusion? By your logic, wouldn’t 255 games produce a more deserving playoff team? Any team can play well for 162 games, but what about 255? Some teams peak after game 205, I thought that was common knowledge
October 6th, 2009 at 9:23 PM
Ron Darling is great. I don’t care what you guys say.
/Mets homer.
October 6th, 2009 at 9:24 PM
Yes, to an extent a 255 game season would, though obviously injuries and such makes that untenable. I arrive at that conclusion because sample size for many things isn’t even establishable in one 162 game season. The Royals were a great team through mid May this year. Unlike in football bad baseball teams can consistently beat good baseball teams. I mean sure, you could have a 140 game season and get (more or less)the same results. But that wouldn’t create whatever meaning you’re craving. Prospectus had an article up claiming that 170 would actually be the perfect numeber awhile ago, can’t find it.
October 6th, 2009 at 9:26 PM
Hockey and Basketball play half the games that baseball does, and I’m always hearing how meaningless their regular season is. Obviously this is a moot point since more games means more money.
October 6th, 2009 at 9:31 PM
Tweets of enjoyment
sportsguy33 I just can’t take Chip Caray seriously after the “BASE HIT!” blunder. Can Ernie Johnson start warming up in the TBS bullpen?
October 6th, 2009 at 9:34 PM
Ugh… It is Chip Caray and not Joe Buck. I screwed up my comment above royally. I can’t rip an announcer when I get his damn name wrong.
October 6th, 2009 at 9:36 PM
With all that booze in the locker room for the winner, how does Cabrera not beat out that throw home?
October 6th, 2009 at 9:36 PM
Live-blog to finish the game
October 6th, 2009 at 10:26 PM
Getting back to the original topic:
The Jets should inquire about him, STAT. They need a potentially-elite wide receiver.
This might work if the Jets, you know, had a quarterback that was more interested in going over defensive looks on the sideline instead of biting his nails and picking his teeth.
/I will not be letting this go anytime soon’d
October 7th, 2009 at 8:29 AM
Jay Glazer just tweeted the Jets traded 2 players and 2 picks for Braylon Edwards.