The Roundup: Seth Green Got Jacked, Obama Won the Nobel Peace Prize, and Chip Caray Still Stinks
Baseball, College Basketball, College Football, Golf, Media Gossip/Musings, NFL, Politics, Tennis, Video October 9th. 2009, 8:00am
For the Zombieland fans: Emma Stone … unhappy with a woman’s karaoke performance, six women proceed to beat her up on stage … school in Ireland: bring your own toilet paper …old lady fights off bear with pillow … death penalty for these criminals, right? All of them … the soccer coach and the 16-year-old … using the pooper scooper as a weapon to assault your family because they took aware your blackberry? …most annoying word in the English language: “Whatever” … great quote about Tim Geithner: “He’s a disaster” … this is the worst: Sheriff claimed to have cancer, took hundreds of hours of sick leave, took donations from friends, family and the community and killed himself recently; an autopsy revealed the sheriff never had cancer …
Blistering critique of TBS announcer Chip Caray. (NYT)
Jelena Dokic’s dad is on a hunger strike in jail. Bizarre story. (Sydney Morning Herald)
Must-read: Man does five years in jail for murder he didn’t commit. Eventually, the ruling is overturned, he is released, and awarded $1.7 million. But the Bloods still have a $20k price on his head. (Village Voice)
Michael Jordan and Barry Bonds are about the only people we know following the President’s Cup. (Chicago Trib)
Cole Hamels’ reality TV wife, Heidi Strobel, went into labor in the middle of game two. (Philly Inquirer)
The sorry Buffalo Bills are run like General Motors, which isn’t a good thing, obviously. (Buffalo News)
Fred Taylor might be done for the season after surgery on his ankle. (Boston Globe)
Rick Pitino keeps it positive in the face of everything that happened this summer. (Rush the Court)
In a stunner, Obama wins the Nobel Peace Prize. (NYT)
Brent Musburger thought construction of the new Florida Marlins ballpark was construction of a new overpass. (Sun-Sentinel)
Reach? The Big 10 Network’s ratings are soaring because of all the eye-candy it has hired. (Sports Bank)
Here’s Seth Green ranting about getting robbed in a parking lot (via Gawker).
Here’s alleged video of Green getting robbed in a parking lot.
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October 9th, 2009 at 8:02 AM
I have no problem with that.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:08 AM
miz – im even talking about the 2 kids who didn’t do anything. everyone in the car knew they were going to kill people. sorry for not being a good christian on friday morning … but damn, stuff like that pisses me off.
im sure the Obama story will roil a few republicans …
October 9th, 2009 at 8:10 AM
Impossible! This almost never happens every year.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:10 AM
TBL, the Nobel prize news is stunning, and a bit baffling. It will probably roil everyone.
The girls in the Karoake photo look like the girl group TLC wannabees. No Scrubs!!
October 9th, 2009 at 8:11 AM
Missed the after dark responses, and I’m too lazy to look right now, but I thought The Office was a classic last night–until they turned it into the YouTube video.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:12 AM
I have no problem with that either.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:13 AM
Michael Jordan and Barry Bonds are about the only people we know following the Ryder Cup
They should be. They don’t play it until next year.
/President’s Cup’d
//cthomashowell at your service
October 9th, 2009 at 8:13 AM
Maybe Seth will now learn you don’t talk shit about Sloan.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:14 AM
it should confuse everyone. at least you could put a finger on why people like Carter and Gore won it this decade, whether you agreed with it or not. You at least knew what they did. Nobody knows what Obama did.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:14 AM
It’s not going to make the people who already think he is an attention/publicity whore happy, that’s for sure.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:15 AM
Ok, I’m sure I’m going to be branding as a right wing nut job, but how on earth can anyone justify Obama getting the peace prize when he was in office all of 2 weeks before the nomination deadline. Trust me when I say he’ll probably eventually deserve to get one (the guy understands the proper way to use America’s power overseas), but he sure as hell doesn’t deserve this one.
/Cue someone pointing at Arafat’s peace prize
October 9th, 2009 at 8:16 AM
He got it because he’s black.
/that argument goes both ways, you know
October 9th, 2009 at 8:17 AM
The sad part is Caray is still 100 times better than Alzheimer Stockton.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:18 AM
who watches a 3 hour football game so they can see 2 minutes of a sideline reporter?
October 9th, 2009 at 8:18 AM
@tallguy, I certainly don’t see it as a right wing nut job comment. If I had had coffee in my hand when I read that headline, I’d have 1st degree burns–that’s how shocked I was. It seems very premature.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:18 AM
Nobody knows what Obama did.
sparty: it what is he GOING to do (from After Dark thread)
Jersey: I watched Morning Joe when I got up at 6:30 and saw that. What a joke. “For what he’s TRYING to do”. “Because Europe likes him and his “tone” on foreign policy.” Vomit.
I have no problem if he wins in 3-4 years after actually accomplishing something, but 9 months into office?
Chuckie Todd and David Gregory just Liberal Europe (their words) “like Obama”, and this is the “he’s not GWB prize”. I get that part of it, btw
October 9th, 2009 at 8:19 AM
agree.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:20 AM
So Mike Scioscia, I guess the umps aren’t always out to get you, huh? And how in the hell does CB Bucknor, everyone’s favorite worse umpire in the game, get put in a playoff game?
October 9th, 2009 at 8:20 AM
then whats the problem? do you guys always get worked up over who wins the nobel peace prize?
October 9th, 2009 at 8:22 AM
so the prize is a make-up call after the Olympics debacle?
October 9th, 2009 at 8:22 AM
why are red sox fans complaining about Bucknor? his calls had nothing to do with the 3 run shot by Torri Hunter in the 5th inning. I think the ball is still traveling.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:24 AM
@Duder, I wouldn’t consider myself “worked up”, but I actually follow the Nobel prize announcements each year (in all categories) and love reading about the winners and their contributions in their various fields. This selection is for me a real shocker, considering it hasn’t been a year into the Presidency. Congratulations Mr. President, but its still a very surprising.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:25 AM
sparty: the loss is totally on the Red Sox, not the umps. Just ironic that a couple weeks ago the Angels were crying about the umps favoring the Red Sox at Fenway then this happens.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:26 AM
Not sure what the prize is based on but who were the other options and what did they do?
October 9th, 2009 at 8:26 AM
If Obama gets a Nobel Peace Prize for simply “re-engaging the world community”, what are they going to give the guy who eventually leads a comprehensive Israeli/Palestinian agreement? Do we need to invent a new prize now?
I understand the world being sick of Bush foreign policy, but the award is a little over the top.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:26 AM
Maybe Obama got the prize for his work as a community organizer. Whatever the rationale, it cheapens the award.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:27 AM
NASA’s tracking it to see if it will crash into the moon.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:27 AM
duder- i don’t think it is ruining anyone’s day, but i am sure a lot of people have google news and yahoo as their homepages, and it is the lead story. and this is a blog, we as commenters react to everything.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:29 AM
i hear ya on that. but i have been to two blogs so far today, my own being the other. the first time a red sox fan chimed in about the game on both sites, it was about CB Bucknor. just interesting.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:30 AM
sparty: umpire discussion in next post.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:30 AM
do they have nominees or just announce the winner?
October 9th, 2009 at 8:31 AM
CB Bucknor is awful though. Not just this game. SI did a player’s poll, and he was voted far and away the worst, so its amazing he got this assignment.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:32 AM
@Duder, I was just wondering if there was a list of the nominees–usually the announcements only talk about the winners.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:32 AM
I suppose I’m supposed to be shocked by these developments.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:32 AM
Yeah, if they’re undeserved. This cheapens the award, period. Obama did nothing to warrant it, and there were other deserving candidates whose contributions included more than “campaigned and won Presidency of USA.” Because again, he was in office 2 weeks before the nomination deadline.
I mean, do you think Obama really wanted this (at this stage…every president wants one)? The biggest criticism on Obama is that he’s all talk so far…and getting a Nobel Prize for absolutely nothing (we’re still in Iraq, Afghanistan is still a mess, no major treaties to speak of, etc) only adds to that criticism.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:33 AM
Maltese-based bookmaker Betsafe lists Betancourt at 5-to-1, and Tsvangirai at 6-to-1. Austrialian Centrebet has Cordoba and Samar at 6-to-1 and both Obama and Tsvangirai at 7-to-1.
The secretive five-member Norwegian Nobel Committee does not disclose the nominees.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:33 AM
He did kill that fly. That was cool.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:33 AM
we get worked about about academy awards!
October 9th, 2009 at 8:35 AM
Who? Reason given for Obama “for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples”
October 9th, 2009 at 8:35 AM
hopefully this motivates him to live up to the honor
October 9th, 2009 at 8:36 AM
Obama gave us the “He’s a jackass” soundbyte. that’s gotta be worth a Peace Prize.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:37 AM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/09/AR2009100901092.html?hpid=topnews
Nominees names can’t be revealed for 50 years. Whaaa?
October 9th, 2009 at 8:37 AM
hah, thanks for the laugh, I needed it this morning.
/Que En Vogue: “Never gonna get never gonna get it…”
October 9th, 2009 at 8:38 AM
i still want to know how different this is from getting an honorary degree from a college.
yes, it’s a title, nobel prize winner, but other than getting to wear a big medallion in public and maybe doing a few speaking events and putting a fancy award on your resume, it doesn’t mean a whole lot.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:38 AM
I think he got it for bring sociali$m back to prominence.
/Read from my teleprompter
//While organizing my community
October 9th, 2009 at 8:38 AM
This is for the peaceful meeting he negotiated for the professor and the cop from Boston, obviously.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:39 AM
nobody remembers who gets honorary degrees. we all will remember that obama won this award. heck, i really hope he lives up to it.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:39 AM
No crap, it’s not like it’s a Peabody.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:40 AM
+20 cracker!!! girls represent!!
/nemesis’d
October 9th, 2009 at 8:41 AM
I can’t believe those two guys were able to handle Seth Green like that.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:42 AM
wilhelm – dude, you’re kidding right? the Nobel Prize is a little more than a mantle decoration. for those that are deserving, it’s a crowning achievement to what is usually a life’s worth of work and effort. it brings an incredible amount of respect. you make it sound like becoming an Eagle Scout.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:43 AM
i hope he lives up to it, too and i can’t wait to hear the partisan spin on this. wonder if any conservatives booed as loud as they cheered the US not getting the Olympics?
October 9th, 2009 at 8:43 AM
i believe that nobel prize winners get a cash award too, wilhelm. like a million. and whoever called him a publicity whore is an idiot. the entire process is secret, he likely had no idea he was being considered.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:46 AM
ah ha, forgot about that part…
October 9th, 2009 at 8:46 AM
Article on potential frontrunners
Still can’t get over how premature this award is…
October 9th, 2009 at 8:47 AM
this is what is sad in this country right now. so many people are sitting around crossing their fingers and toes, hoping politicians fail. i want them to succeed, but with doing what is best for the country, regardless. now disagreeing with their policy is one thing, hoping for complete and utter failure in making this country successful is another.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:47 AM
i’ll be sporadic in the comments today, if you need me, email. minor family emergency.
calipari interview will run next week.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:48 AM
Then it would be really great if he gave the money to a charity or something like that.. he could spin this positively if he does it right.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:48 AM
Somewhere right now, a parent is explaining to their little girl what a disco stick is.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:51 AM
and yet these are the same people that so quickly called others that disagreed with them un-American. It’s irony at it’s finest.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:51 AM
#5 of the karaoke girls looks like a Williams sister.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:53 AM
hes definitely getting a new car with that money
October 9th, 2009 at 8:54 AM
I’m with you–and I actually think most people do agree with this sentiment. Unfortunately, the prescribed solutions that come from BHO, Pelosi, and Reid run counter to what is best for the country. So, I do want them to fail.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:54 AM
Obama’s win is proof that it makes the IOC hard to be able to turn down the most powerful person on the planet.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:54 AM
The biggest problem that people should have with the Peace Prize is Obama got nominated for the award 10 days after he won the election. Which means the reasons he won came in the past year and after they nominated him. My question for the committee would have to be, why was he nominated? The past winners of the peace prize had a record of laboring for years, even Gore, for whatever endeavor they were pursuing.
This was a total rimjob from the international community.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:55 AM
not one of those karaoke women look under 35. what exactly counts as “underage” now?
October 9th, 2009 at 8:55 AM
Uh…no.
/winner was determined well before that
October 9th, 2009 at 8:56 AM
but it is happening on both sides. give anyone a mic in washington and you can pretty much guarantee them to say something foolish. those covering the news as well. forget republican and democrat, everyone is just a politician now. i read the entire hannity and moore transcript from there interview the other day. i wanted to smash their heads together with the stupidity that came out of their mouths. it is all about personal agenda.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:57 AM
So far zero comments on who should have won the award.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:57 AM
Yes.
Unfortunately, it won’t happen. New Hampshire has six very specific criteria for a murder case to be tried as a capital case. Unfortunately, what these kids did doesn’t match one of the six.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:58 AM
Tebow.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:58 AM
Obama, I’m really happy for you, I’m gonna let you finish, but Desmond Tutu had one of the best nobel peace prizes of all time.
/Mandela’d
October 9th, 2009 at 8:58 AM
hannity managed to not turn beet red during the interview
October 9th, 2009 at 8:59 AM
Psh, you want solutions instead of bitching and moaning…we don’t do that here.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:59 AM
lol. Yea I have no problem with that bitch getting mugged. But I think that shit was staged.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:00 AM
wanting the individual to fail is one thing. that would be their agenda never being put into place. but if it is at the expense of the country failing, that is scary. for example; if you are against universal health care, and it gets enacted, and then it proves to be a complete and total failure, the country is what suffers. we can vote him out of office next term, but we are still going to have to deal with that mess.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:00 AM
Tom Brady
October 9th, 2009 at 9:00 AM
Because I might be collecting retirement when they finally do let us know who the nominees for this year are.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:00 AM
No, it was yet another shot at Bush by the panel. They gave it to Carter to try to influence his foreign policy. They gave it to Gore to needle him. And now they’ve given it to Obama to make sure Dubya gets the point that the panel hated his foreign policy. Which is a fine sentiment, one that I agree with…yet has no place in deciding who gets the Nobel Peace prize. Obama didn’t want this at all.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:01 AM
Lonnie Jones read – very nice. Proof that the American justice system can work even when it f’s up.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:03 AM
Amen, Brother Sparty. Remember how great it was when we came together as a nation in the days following 9/11 and, for a few brief moments, we weren’t Democrats or Republicans, but Americans? It is a shame that this had to end so abruptly.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:03 AM
That doesn’t mean that you don’t have the right to comment.
Take the Emmys for example. I don’t watch enough sitcoms to make a complete informed decision, but it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know that Family Guy shouldn’t have been nominated.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:03 AM
The article I linked described several more deserving candidates…personally I would gone with Sima Samar.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:04 AM
Mark Sanchez is going to win the Nobel Prize for poise.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:05 AM
I heard the Taliban is pissed Obama won. I guess they think Bin Laden was screwed.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:06 AM
No, it was yet another shot at Bush by the panel. They gave it to Carter to try to influence his foreign policy. They gave it to Gore to needle him. And now they’ve given it to Obama to make sure Dubya gets the point that the panel hated his foreign policy. Which is a fine sentiment, one that I agree with…yet has no place in deciding who gets the Nobel Peace prize. Obama didn’t want this at all.
I think there’s a lot of truth to that. No matter how much the American Left hated GWB foreign policy, Western Europe felt even stronger.
That being said, Obama has pretty much been a complete 180 on many (but not all) issues. If he wasn’t, he wouldn’t have “earned” it.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:07 AM
agree with it all, and unfortunately, the personal agenda of everyone who is able to make a decision that impacts this country is keeping real debate about how to solve our problems from happening. politicians are afraid to go against their party for fear of not getting re-election support.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:07 AM
@Tampa Bo–I saw that same comment by the Taliban. Unbelievable.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:08 AM
There aren’t five good comedies on TV, something had to go in there. Wait…30 Rock, The Office, It’s Always Sunny, Curb didn’t air during that season…(thinking)…yeah, not five. Though this year through three episodes I’d nominate Community, that shit’s funny.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:09 AM
SM – here’s my vote:
October 9th, 2009 at 9:10 AM
Exactly. I actually think you and I are in total agreement on this.
I truly believe socialized medicine would be an unmitigated disaster and, hence, I want BHO to fail to get this passed. If it were implemented, I would certainly hope that the best health care system in the world would not, effectively, implode.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:10 AM
don’t forget modern family. between watching the latest episode last night and the one hour office my face was tired from laughing so much.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:11 AM
you’re missing out. it’s some damn good golf.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:14 AM
I’ll have to check this out. Ed O’Neill is a comic genius. And, Sofia Vergara makes me tingly.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:14 AM
30 Rock, The Office, HIMYM, It’s Always Sunny, Scrubs
done.
/Scrubs is the career nomination
October 9th, 2009 at 9:15 AM
Does “South Park” not fall into that category?
October 9th, 2009 at 9:15 AM
Modern Family is legitimately funny. Hope it sticks around.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:15 AM
Why did I finally see the morning roundup at 9:11 am when it was posted at 8? Reloaded page, cleared cache, and still, nothing, until now?
October 9th, 2009 at 9:16 AM
You pull a 180 on the President’s Cup, spence?
October 9th, 2009 at 9:16 AM
everyone on that show is really solid, Ed O’Neill being one of the best, funniest straight men on TV at the moment.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:17 AM
Does anyone have problems viewing the videos on iPhone? Nothing even shows up to click on, just a big blank block.
/blocked at work’d
October 9th, 2009 at 9:18 AM
lefty…i’ve always liked the presidents cup. i just hate the captains.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:18 AM
Modern Family is very, very good. I love Ed O’Neil’s character.
South Park for me is still the gold standard. Wednesday night’s season premiere had me gasping and howling from the opening scene until the end.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:19 AM
that was truly ridiculous…the pageant judges beating off might have crossed the line, but it was one of the funniest things i’ve ever seen.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:20 AM
Wow it sounds like Network TV is watchable again. Im gonna have to get the DVR ready.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:21 AM
Grey’s was epic last night, Bo. I hope you at least recorded it.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:23 AM
@spencer–plus the whole Chipolte reference had me crazy. We have a birthday luncheon each month at my office and this month’s birthday girl has chosen Chipolte as the location. My co-worker and I had just THAT MORNING talked about how much we hated Chipolte and how sick it made us. I laughed my a** off.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:24 AM
v4l…oh yea, that was great. billy mays was awesome.
the other ridiculous thing was when they showed david carradine’s ghost hanging from the ceiling in women’s underwear. i nearly wet myself.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:24 AM
I’m truly neutral on this as a non-American, but I was wondering what criteria you are using to determine that the current system is the best in the world?
Based on my limited knowledge, it is certainly among the best in the world if you have the right coverage/benefits but, on the whole, aren’t there millions of people without coverage and/or the means to pay for it?
October 9th, 2009 at 9:25 AM
Jesus has no need for material items.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:26 AM
is it american? then it’s the best.
boom. patriot’d.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:31 AM
Modern Family is legitimately funny. Hope it sticks around.
Here’s my take. Modern Family is awesome, please, please watch it. Cougartown descended into suckiness, and fast. Parks and Rec still sucks, but I like Louis CK. Community toned down the Joel McHale, and amped up the Abed, which is a good thing. Plus, John Oliver.
Oh, and why is the video “alleged?”
October 9th, 2009 at 9:31 AM
politicians are afraid to go against their party for fear of not getting re-election support
thank you. abolishing the party system will force the public to quit placing people in boxes. Electing an official should be a decision that takes some real freaking work, but people don’t want to be bothered with such trivial decisions as to the direction of the country for the coming years.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:31 AM
Sorry, I forgot.
/polite, non-confrontational Canadian’d
October 9th, 2009 at 9:31 AM
Happens to me all the time. I normally refresh the page and looked for a new post on the side bar, but yesterday I saw nothing new for almost an hour. I clicked on the home page and saw that I missed two posts.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:32 AM
Fag
October 9th, 2009 at 9:33 AM
/WHO’d
October 9th, 2009 at 9:36 AM
In terms of straight up service, it’s the best. Basically, you get to pick two of the three in healthcare: fast, cheap, quality. American’s have fast and quality…America has the best doctors, the best equipment, and the best availability. Problem is…it costs…alot. To bring the costs down, either quality will go down, or wait times (i.e. rationing) will go up.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:37 AM
YEEEEEEE-HAW!!!
/fires guns wildly into the air
//like a real ‘merican would
///spits
October 9th, 2009 at 9:37 AM
you wish.
/sicktastic burnsauce!
October 9th, 2009 at 9:40 AM
If I ever open up a restaurant that would be a name of a wing sauce.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:40 AM
Are you kidding me? America’s parties are among the weakest in the world. “Abolish the party system” are you a moron? You can’t abolish something that happens naturally.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:40 AM
or we can have…ya know…tort reform.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:42 AM
too obvious, it’ll never happen.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:43 AM
In terms of straight up service, it’s the best.
The fee for service model is so easy to bilk, though. You get sized up based on your insurance as much as you get sized up based on your injury/illness.
You may get a whole lot of things happen, but they may not all be necessary. Also, a lot of “doctoring” is CYA and redundancy, because of all the medical malpractice lawsuits (and the lack of centralized medical record keeping).
October 9th, 2009 at 9:44 AM
There is no room for logic in this discussion sir.
/having the ability to buy insurance across state lines would help too
October 9th, 2009 at 9:44 AM
There is a lot of discussion in Canada (at least by those on the right of the sprectrum) about possibly considering a two-tiered system where everyone is covered by the existing universal healthcare but offering the option of having private facilities for those who want to jump the line and pay out of pocket or by private insurance.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:45 AM
The sorry Buffalo Bills are run like General Motors, which isn’t a good thing, obviously
wow. cocky J-E-T-S fan
October 9th, 2009 at 9:46 AM
or we can have…ya know…tort reform.
Under the public option, this would quickly become a necessity. You can get both, Sparty!
(actually you couldn’t, because the law lobby is nearly as big as the Big Medicine Lobby)
October 9th, 2009 at 9:46 AM
Saw Zombieland last night. Awesome movie. Emma Stone looked incredible throughout.
/Not reading through this thread about politics.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:47 AM
or we can have…ya know…tort reform.
Ah yes! The TRUE EVIL!
To bring the costs down, either quality will go down, or wait times (i.e. rationing) will go up.
While I agree that real, comprehensive reform will have some trade-offs: I don’t think any of the current bills certainly will institute what most conservatives are calling “rationing”.
And I would argue that we are all already being “rationed”. 95% have policies with many detailed pages of what is covered and what is not. Rationing.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:47 AM
America’s parties are among the weakest in the world. “Abolish the party system” are you a moron? You can’t abolish something that happens naturally.
except for the whole, voting along party lines, celebrating switches from the Democrat to the Republican…I totally agree with you.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:48 AM
Is there a new post yet? I dont see one
October 9th, 2009 at 9:50 AM
the old lever voting machines, could you just select one lever to just vote for a party across the board?
October 9th, 2009 at 9:51 AM
The funny thing to me is the same people who rail on about not believing he won the prize in his short amount of time in office out of one side of their mouths are the ones who are just so eager to label his presidency during that same short period of time.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:51 AM
Is there a new post yet? I dont see one
yeah, CJ, but it’s about the Red Sox sucking, so you’re not missing anything you want to read.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:57 AM
I have to go into this post, to see the most recent posts on the right side of the page, in order to get to the new baseball post.. what gives.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:59 AM
but that doesn’t fit into the image you’re supposed to get when you think of rationing. poor people waiting in a government line for bread, being told their daily ration isn’t enough to feed the entire family. either little timmy or grandma will have to go w/o today.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:59 AM
Let’s see…in most of Europe, you don’t even get to vote for a candidate, you vote for a party. Even where you do vote for a local candidate, said candidate is picked by the party leadership and thus serves at the pleasure of the party. If a member disagrees with the party, he or she loses their seat, if not immediately, than in the next election. There’s no such thing as bipartizanship.
Here, we have the primary system, in which the public decides which candidates run in the general election. You have so called swing votes, moderates in both parties that will vote with the other party on certain issues due to their district’s leanings. You have senators and representatives that openly defy their party’s on issues with little or no retribution. The two party leaders have extremely little power over the agenda, and the moderates rule the day.
the American system is as close as you can get to a non-party system.
October 9th, 2009 at 10:03 AM
Yet you can still get said services, you just have to pay for them. Also, any rationing done by a single payer will be much more restrictive due to no competition. Unless you want to argue that it’s easier to get an mri of the knee in Canada than it is in the US…
October 9th, 2009 at 10:09 AM
Any thought that it was just a down year internationally? Like when the Spurs beat the Knicks in ‘99?
October 9th, 2009 at 10:10 AM
And TBL, how is the olympic snub a “debacle?” It was a half-assed effort by the USA to try and steal the games in the 23rd hour. They knew it was an outside shot.
October 9th, 2009 at 10:15 AM
Of course not. On the other hand, you also will never have to worry about your entire life being ruined trying to pay for necessary medical care.
There are a lot of things to like about our system, and people need to be honest about that. But I can’t support any system where working people who want coverage can’t get it (or afford it) are forced into bankruptcy when they get cancer. It’s terrible.
There needs to be reform. And for any person who argues that government is inefficient, I would argue that insurance companies are just as bad. I would be very happy to see a simple public option that is available to everyone. Competition is good. The insurance companies say they offer a service that people want and appreciate. I say they finally need to face some competition to prove it.
October 9th, 2009 at 10:17 AM
Sad thing is they won’t even get Life. We are way to fucking soft on hard criminals and way to fucking hard on soft criminals.
October 9th, 2009 at 10:23 AM
The problem we have today is that government actually restricts competition among insurance companies. If we could eliminate those restrictions, we’d see a dramatic shift in service as well as price.
October 9th, 2009 at 10:24 AM
that would be a great argument against health care reform if it was reforming to a single payer system, but it’s not how it will be reformed.
October 9th, 2009 at 10:24 AM
This is so true, and applies to just about any industry.
October 9th, 2009 at 10:31 AM
I’m late to this one (damn meetings), but I hope people remember this Nobel dabacle the next time someone votes for a Presidential candidate just the so the “International Community” likes us a little more.
No, this Nobel prize was a large middle finger extended to all of us, no matter your party of choice.
October 9th, 2009 at 10:32 AM
you are talking about allowing capitalism. that’s evil.
/michael moore.
October 9th, 2009 at 10:35 AM
Should Obama considering not accepting? SEriously – mother theresa and nelson mandela have done far more for peace and yet neither won the award.
obama makes a couple speeches and is in office for two weeks and gets it?
October 9th, 2009 at 10:41 AM
Should Obama considering not accepting? SEriously – mother theresa and nelson mandela have done far more for peace and yet neither won the award.
obama makes a couple speeches and is in office for two weeks and gets it?
Well, I’m sure this is a distraction the administration wish they didn’t have right now — I’m betting they’re going to go with a strategy of a subdued acceptance speech and bet everyone forgets about it quickly (which they will, with Health Care and Afghanistan).
Not accepting would only make a bigger, and longer-lasting distraction from what they actually care about.
October 9th, 2009 at 10:41 AM
I’m late to this one (damn meetings), but I hope people remember this Nobel dabacle the next time someone votes for a Presidential candidate just the so the “International Community” likes us a little more.
I saw a poll about a month ago where Europeans like Obama at about a 76% rate, compared to like 18% for Bush. The problem, overall, they like the US in general at a 22% clip.
I saw a lot of comments about “name someone else that should have won”?
How about “We’re not giving it out this year, because no one did enough to deserve it”. That would have been a bigger middle finger to the stat eof the world than to give it to Obama, who only gave us a “beer summit”
October 9th, 2009 at 10:42 AM
In fairness, he will and should accept.
In much the same way Marisa Tomei accepted her award for “My Cousin Vinny”.
October 9th, 2009 at 10:42 AM
Mother Teresa did win one.
October 9th, 2009 at 10:42 AM
He has to accept it, even if he is silently cursing the panel for handing his opponents another piece of ammo. I can’t think of a bigger snub than to decline a Nobel peace prize
October 9th, 2009 at 10:46 AM
Why all the fuss over the Nobel? That award became irrelavent the moment Al Gore won one.
October 9th, 2009 at 10:46 AM
No, he should accept it. And don’t get me wrong, I don’t blame Obama at all for this.
But I hope he uses his considerable powers of speech to take the Nobel committee (and the “International community”) to task over this. I am anxious to see how he uses this opportunity.
October 9th, 2009 at 10:47 AM
I think we might be over-estimating the long-term implications for the administration here. In a month or two there is going to be a health care bill being signed by Obama. And whatever has happened up to that point, and regardless of what is actually in the bill, it will be seen as a major triumph.
The only people still thinking about this by Christmas are Rush and Hannity listeners, and they already hate Obama with every thread of their (resisting the urge to insert insulting adjective) being.
October 9th, 2009 at 10:47 AM
They were definitely making a statement in their selection of Obama, but the selection of a President who was elected by the people for an award is hardly a huge middle finger to all of us.
October 9th, 2009 at 10:52 AM
That would be fucking awesome. Something along the lines of, “reward people that actually affect change, instead of making a political statement” would be nice.
October 9th, 2009 at 11:05 AM
thanks to clown, was just alerted mother theresa won one in 1979 and Nelson Mandela shared one in 1993.
i should have said: obama has no business being anywhere near this prize when compared to people like that
October 9th, 2009 at 11:07 AM
thanks to clown, was just alerted mother theresa won one in 1979 and Nelson Mandela shared one in 1993.
If clown commented like this all the time, I wouldn’t have a problem with him
October 9th, 2009 at 11:10 AM
Clown catches everything
October 9th, 2009 at 11:11 AM
I miss the Clown, but isn’t it a violation of his deal to read the comments?
BTW, I’ll serve a week of his suspension, if you can visit and read the comments, just not comment. There’s nobody who shouldn’t be for that deal.
October 9th, 2009 at 11:12 AM
i bet half of you couldn’t name clowns original nickname
October 9th, 2009 at 11:14 AM
i bet half of you couldn’t name clowns original nickname
mime harem dungeon?
October 9th, 2009 at 11:15 AM
were you the kid that asked for homework?
October 9th, 2009 at 11:16 AM
I know I can’t. I was the new dickhead as recently as a few months ago. I only know him as clown.
October 9th, 2009 at 11:18 AM
were you the kid that asked for homework?
I’d have much rather your shitty team just beat Notre Dame, so the clown could have stuck around, and these Notre Dame loving retards would have shut up.
I was just curious about the rules. They’re Clown’s rules anyway. TBL has no recollection of even betting.
October 9th, 2009 at 11:19 AM
wait, Michigan State is the reason clown is gone?
October 9th, 2009 at 11:21 AM
Michigan State, Purdue and Washington all contributed to making this site a worse place for a month. I believe the bet was Notre Dame wouldn’t start 3-1.
October 9th, 2009 at 11:22 AM
yep.
Clown bet TBL Notre Dame wouldn’t start the season 3-1 or better (TBL was saying 4-0). They lost those two ridiculous games, most notably to Michigan State, and started 3-1. Viola, clown’s out for a month.
October 9th, 2009 at 11:22 AM
The Mex*can?
October 9th, 2009 at 11:23 AM
i meant won those 2 games
October 9th, 2009 at 11:26 AM
Way late to the Obama Nobel Prize discussion but that’s ok since I have very little to offer. Him winning this award is less shocking than the sun rising in the east this morning.
October 9th, 2009 at 11:26 AM
on behalf of the spartans…sorry, clown.
October 9th, 2009 at 11:30 AM
race baiter?
October 9th, 2009 at 11:32 AM
not at all groin. it has nothing to do with race. geez
October 9th, 2009 at 11:32 AM
People saying they actually care about who wins the peace prize? Hilarious, you guys are so full of shit your eyes must be a lovely shade of brown.
October 9th, 2009 at 11:35 AM
on behalf of the spartans…sorry, clown.
on behalf of jpq…thx Purdue
/sorta kidding
//actually gained a lot of respect for him for honoring the bet
October 9th, 2009 at 11:36 AM
And yet, they both did win the award, and you’re talking horeshit to try and rile people up.
October 9th, 2009 at 11:37 AM
Teresa won in 79 and Mandela in 93. But I guess TBL’s knowledge of world issues goes back as far as his knowledge of the existence of Major League Baseball.
October 9th, 2009 at 11:38 AM
Good catch, Clown, you poor exiled bastard.
October 9th, 2009 at 11:39 AM
I was just poking fun Irish.
October 9th, 2009 at 11:39 AM
Amen. The fact that Al Gore won shows what a peice of shit that award has become.
October 9th, 2009 at 11:39 AM
Or any of the times it has been given to the UN.
October 9th, 2009 at 11:45 AM
Holy crap check out this former winner. What a look!
October 9th, 2009 at 11:46 AM
He should declare war on Iran during his acceptance speech.
/irony
October 9th, 2009 at 11:57 AM
Come again? Gore didn’t deserve it?
October 9th, 2009 at 12:03 PM
No he didn’t. How many private jet rides has he taken in his life? He’s burned more fossil fuels than all of us on this site combined. Unless the Nobel Peace prize is intended for fucking hypocrites, he doesn’t deserve it.
/but he did invent the internet
October 9th, 2009 at 12:04 PM
What baffled me about Gore was: why didn’t he get one relating to science?
October 9th, 2009 at 12:05 PM
Or rather, if you’re going to give him one, why was it in peace rather than the science fields.
October 9th, 2009 at 12:10 PM
What did An Inconvenient Truth have to do with science?
October 9th, 2009 at 12:12 PM
and look at how that has promoted peace. just take political discussions on TBL for example.
October 9th, 2009 at 12:16 PM
I would have been more okay with this. But still, the cause of global warming is a scientific hypotheses, not a theory. And don’t even get me started on the idea of carbon indulgences.