But we heard almost the same exact excuses (except of course, the black stuff) about John Elway for years. It was Dan Reeves, it was the running game, it was Vance Johnson

Yes, yes. Exactly!

Wait, what are we talking about, here?

I’d bet on Brady Quinn outlasting him.

That’s racist!

//couldn’t help it

Maybe that will help bring the team together and make Russell work a little harder (or maybe they’ll revert back to sucking…who knows)

as long as he didn’t mentally check out of the game once he got his signing bonus, a new work ethic can improve him. is he too far gone for that? time will tell.

I for one think he’s too far gone. I can’t remember the study, but a few years ago someone compiled the data on QB’s holding out their first training camp and that decision alone basically destroyed any promise of a good NFL career. Couple that with the weight problem, work ethic and any hint of accuracy and I’d bet on Brady Quinn outlasting him.

He needs a hardass coach who will install in him the work ethic that he so desperately needs.

as long as he didn’t mentally check out of the game once he got his signing bonus, a new work ethic can improve him. is he too far gone for that? time will tell.

i’m almost curious to see who coaches the raiders next season…

I’m just tired of the pity party. “I was booed on draft day. Rush Limbaugh was mean to me. T.O. was mean to me. I don’t have any wide receivers. I was sick the day of the Super Bowl. I’m gonna go on Real Sports and tell Bryant Gumbel that I face too much pressure because I’m black.”

Jay,

But we heard almost the same exact excuses (except of course, the black stuff) about John Elway for years. It was Dan Reeves, it was the running game, it was Vance Johnson, the weather, whatever. I’m not a Donovan fan by any means, but let’s not act like the excuse making is all about him being black. People like Donovan, and some of the excuses aren’t completely untrue. Check the ND threads yesterday if you want to excuse making.

1. McNabb is not a HOF (yet)
2. This is more McNabb hate that ignores reality. Do you remember Garcia’s years in Cleveland and Detroit? As soon as he had some success in Philly you could read articles daily that referenced how bad the Browns and Lions were – making excuses for Garcia’s play.

McNabb gets no more love/excuses from “the media” (always a ridiculous term to use) than anyone else.

you just proved Jay’s point about criticizing

haven’t heard that one

Of course, I live in JaMarcus Russell Apologist country. I hear a lot of that. I am of the opinion that there is some validity to it. He needs a hardass coach who will install in him the work ethic that he so desperately needs.