Mark McGwire’s a Fraud, and So is Tony LaRussa (Can We Toss Bob Knight in There, Too? Cool.)
Baseball, Cheating, ESPN, Frauds, Media Gossip/Musings, Video January 12th. 2010, 11:05amMark McGwire’s steroid “apology” was going well … and then he said that steroids never helped him. “I did this for health purposes. There’s no way I did this for any type of strength purposes … There’s no way a pill or an injection will give you hand-eye coordination or the ability or the great mind that I’ve had as a baseball player.” What a joke.
Sure you did, Mark. Keep telling yourself that. Overall, we have very little outrage about this – unlike, say, Ken Rosenthal. McGwire’s admission has been 5-10 years in the making. (Regarding this column – if McGwire never said another word on the topic, it wouldn’t bother us. His day of interviews was enough.) We’ve lost interest. Steroid fatigue? Probably not. It’s just that almost everyone cheated, so there’s no major surprise after McGwire’s initial news popped. If someone asks, ‘what do you think of McGwire’ then we’ll say, ‘he’s a cheating fraud.’ And that’s basically it. Then they’ll ask, ‘would he get your vote for him in the Hall of Fame?’ And we’d say, ‘depends who he was up against. If the other choice is Bert Blyleven, then punch my ticket for one-dimensional McGwire over that cranky compiler.’ Next topic.
Here’s Tony LaRussa, after hearing McGwire’s revelation: “I didn’t know anything except that I knew we ran a legit program and that Mark was a good example of working his butt off and getting his strength gains as a product of hard work. I did, and still speak to his character and integrity.” What a crock of shit. Two years ago, when a St. Louis columnist pressed LaRussa on McGwire and steroids, Tony the Drunk twice defended Big Red Steroid. LaRussa is an embarrassment. How great is his, “we ran a legit program” line? LaRussa is beloved by baseball apologists, but it is worth noting his team has had its problems with steroids, HGH, and booze (not to mention his own DUI arrest) in the last few years. Why the media loves this clown is beyond us.
And Bob Knight? (Why is ESPN reaching out to Bob Knight on this? Because he’s friends with Tony LaRussa, of course.) That ass-clown had the audacity to say, “Gatorade is a performance-enhancing substance … I’ve always had a real skeptical approach to this performance-enhancing stuff.”
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January 12th, 2010 at 11:08 AM
He left out, “But man, does it make the ball go a lot further when you hit it!”
January 12th, 2010 at 11:09 AM
Gatorade is a performance-enhancing substance
nice one Cards fan
January 12th, 2010 at 11:10 AM
Doesn’t LaRussa have a TON of enemies?
January 12th, 2010 at 11:10 AM
we’ve been hoodwinked, bamboozled, led astray, run amok.
/what is bob knight doing here?
January 12th, 2010 at 11:10 AM
Damn, is there any Eart left or did TBL just scorch it all?
January 12th, 2010 at 11:11 AM
Really old guy is hopelessly out of touch, film at 11.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:12 AM
What has always bothered me with celebrities/athletes is their belief that since they are famous, we will believe whatever it is they say. They seriously underestimate the intelligence of the general public.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:13 AM
NBC’s Brian Williams on DP show right now talking about this. Williams apparently led off the Nightly News cast with an editorial or something along those lines about Big Roid.
Williams is coming with the heat. Actually made a comment about McGwire’s gross neck, saying it’s like that because it grew so big, so fast and then receded and now it looks like that. Ouch.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:14 AM
we’ve been hoodwinked, bamboozled, led astray, run amok.
edited by the NY Post, circa 1933
January 12th, 2010 at 11:14 AM
The LaRussa stuff fascinates me. Apparently, he was in form this morning on Mike and Mike. Anyone got the audio?
January 12th, 2010 at 11:15 AM
no, no they dont. the general public is retarded.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:15 AM
Fast-talking, high-pants.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:15 AM
This may be one of my favorite TBL posts ever written. I guffawed and chortled.
Bernard Berrian is probably last though.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:15 AM
Williams is coming with the heat. Actually made a comment about McGwire’s gross neck, saying it’s like that because it grew so big, so fast and then receded and now it looks like that. Ouch.
if only he got that upset over what those fuckers in Washington have done to us over the last 10 years, instead of some pock-marked ginger roid rager
January 12th, 2010 at 11:16 AM
That is a lot of make-up he is wearing.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:17 AM
That ass-clown had the audacity to say, “Gatorade is a performance-enhancing substance
Ummm, but it is. It happens not be an illegal one, but unless the product is a complete fraud, then it is. And its one that everyone today does that the Ruth’s, Mays, and Mantles of the world didn’t have available. Same as Tommy John surgery and Lasik.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:17 AM
It looked like that when he came up in Oakland. The acne got him as a youngster. All the outrage over this cracks me up. Athletes cheat and lie, what’s next?!
January 12th, 2010 at 11:17 AM
I’m laughing but also nodding my head in agreeance.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:18 AM
I gather that TBL isn’t the biggest baseball fan.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:18 AM
This.
The only thing that remotely shocked me about any of this was Bud Selig having the audacity to claim that the steroid era was over. He cited their testing policy. Yeah Bud, a urine test that has no way to test for HGH or any other designer drug that has been developed recently to stay ahead of testing is keeping your sport PED free. I can’t wait until that idiot leaves.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:18 AM
Athletes cheat and lie, what’s next?!
#18 picked off by Ed Reed
January 12th, 2010 at 11:19 AM
/truth’d
January 12th, 2010 at 11:19 AM
/what is bob knight doing here?
He and LaRussa are good friends. Tony probably said “Hey Bobby, you seem to be well-liked in the public sphere. Can you go on TV and talk about a player who I’m blood brothers with and casually sweep aside his admission of steriod use? Kthxbye”.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:20 AM
what he said is actually true, but i think he also said it because he wasn’t going to go after his friend.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:20 AM
They seriously underestimate the intelligence of the general public.
no, no they dont. the general public is retarded.
my cute, lovable dumb dog is Einstein compared to 90% of the US
January 12th, 2010 at 11:20 AM
Probably at least once, I’m sure, and the Ravens will still lose like the last seven times. Love that, “I know what’s coming. Eighteen’s coming” quote, though.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:22 AM
+1
Ego is a fickle friend. Example: Brian WIlliams actually thinks I give a flying fuck about anything that comes out of his arrogant pie hole. Hey Bri-Bri, shut up and get back to your regularly scheduled buufuu.
Oh yea, Katie and Matt, do yourself a favor and don’t go where Bri-Bri just went.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:23 AM
You’re right. I just didn’t want to come off as an illectual snob; which I am.
It pisses me off to no end that they try to get over constantly on their fans and the public.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:24 AM
We’ll see if TBL still has this faux outrage when LeBron is busted for HGH use.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:25 AM
Whaaa??
January 12th, 2010 at 11:25 AM
Why does everyone over look the amphetamine binges of prior generations when PED’s come up?
Either way, why single out Big Mac? Let’s not forget that he was hitting vs. roided up pitching as well. Do you think the rist of Tommy John surgery was just a coincidence? Nope. Common side effect of PEDs on pitchers is ligament wear. Sorry.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:25 AM
As a pro you have about 3-4 years on average to get that paper. If you can stretch it to 6-8 by doing something everyone esle was doing anyway, you say you aren’t doing it? Bullshit. Look at Wall Street.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:25 AM
But LeBron said it was genetics and hard work!
January 12th, 2010 at 11:26 AM
Big fan. Finished 2nd in my fantasy league last year.
I really want to know what Carney Lansford thinks about all this, though.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:26 AM
that won’t happen…he doesn’t have a gut.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:27 AM
I expect multiple droppings of “Fraud,” “Joke,” and “Clown.” Maybe a little prefacing of “we have little outrage” before unleashing a barrage of outrage.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:27 AM
A bit off topic, but it surprises me that Knight is liked in the public sphere. The guy is one of the biggest fucking hypocrites on Earth. Make a living of clowing and hating the media and then become a TV analyst after your oldass wears out. Fuck you, Bobby Knight.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:27 AM
lol…i’ll buy genetics. he hit the genetic megamillions jackpot.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:27 AM
Hernia?
January 12th, 2010 at 11:28 AM
<blockquote?Gatorade is a performance-enhancing substance
knight’s right. it was/is a substance concocted in a lab at the university of florida to help the football team’s endurance.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:28 AM
+3.14
January 12th, 2010 at 11:29 AM
There have been Lebron-drugs posts in the past. I have raved about how i think LeBron is one of the greatest physical freaks in sports history (6-8, 250, speed, leaping ability). since you can’t test for HGH, i dont see how he can get caught. maybe one of his teammates will rat him out, the way Ken Caminiti said the 75% (or whatever #) was using?
can HGH help your speed and leaping ability?
January 12th, 2010 at 11:29 AM
I really want to know what Carney Lansford thinks about all this, though.
“I would like to think we did it based on talent and the team Sandy (Alderson) and Tony (La Russa) put together,” former third baseman Carney Lansford said of Oakland’s run of success. “The only guy we suspected at the time was Jose, and we had no proof. What are you going to do?”
Its the internet. Ask and ye shall receive.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:30 AM
The reason people get so riled up about baseball players over everyone else doing PEDs is because it is so easy to be an icon in baseball. People can better idolize people who are not athletic freaks.
I am by no means excusing any of the behavior. The root cause of the annoying overreaction is the general (retarded) public’s infatuation with these guys. If people just treated them like regular people who are good at some stuff, then we wouldn’t be subjected to such self-righteous bull.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:30 AM
Mac is being singled out because he was the single season record holder for home runs and beat a record that stood since 1961.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:32 AM
Bam.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:32 AM
Dunno, but science has proven that HGH helps with underhand halfcourt shots and choreographed sideline routines.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:32 AM
it can help you recover from working out like a freak of nature.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:32 AM
I really want to know what Carney Lansford thinks about all this, though.
Hernia?
naw. Hernia has much better hair (but Lansford’s mustache was spectacular)
January 12th, 2010 at 11:32 AM
But really, we should be asking whether or not the Jets will be giving up first and thirds to get Miles Austin.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:33 AM
I disagree NDub. Mac is not being singled out by any means. Each player who has admitted or been suspected has been scrutinized to no end like this. Mac is just getting his time with his feet to the fire.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:33 AM
TBL,
You inadvertently stumbled into McGwire’s Friends and Family Circle with that comment. It fits in nicely with his “it doesn’t help hand eye coordination” quote.
\good for the goose, good for the gander
January 12th, 2010 at 11:33 AM
don’t forget it helps being > than kobe.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:34 AM
“You don’t see movies with guys have discussions with Red Grange in a corn field.”
January 12th, 2010 at 11:35 AM
Would Kobe trade efficiency for no rings and a bronze medal? I doubt it.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:36 AM
False. Danny Green is the best dancer on that team, and he was dancing at UNC. Wait … does this mean WAYNE ELLINGTON WAS ON HGH! no wonder he pull this
http://thebiglead.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/20090626_inq_nbalocals26-d.jpg
January 12th, 2010 at 11:37 AM
na, he’d just snatch it…like he snatched that poor girl’s butthole’s virginity in that hotel room in colorado.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:37 AM
La Russa*
*two words
January 12th, 2010 at 11:39 AM
Bet she woulda let LeBron skeet.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:39 AM
i hate it that i was so right about him.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:40 AM
don’t forget it helps being > than kobe
And being a complete douchebag. Let me know when his pompous ass wins a title, then I will pay attention to that media whore.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:42 AM
you get a gut from HGH use?
January 12th, 2010 at 11:43 AM
i’ll be sure to let you know.
where can you be reached? do you get email all the way up there on your high horse?
January 12th, 2010 at 11:43 AM
yea, HGH makes EVERYTHING grow…organs, bones, etc.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:43 AM
Can’t remember the last time I was this excited for a TV show.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:44 AM
I’m just anxious to hear what Mitch Albom has to say.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:45 AM
yawn. Who gives a shit.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:46 AM
But you do get football movies with the kid from The Goonies and Roc.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:46 AM
I’m just anxious to hear what Mitch Albom has to say.
you’ll have to wait until tomorow. He’s with Morrie today
January 12th, 2010 at 11:47 AM
well hold on here is a statement from Mitch Albom:
January 12th, 2010 at 11:47 AM
Can’t remember the last time I was this excited for a TV show
Frank the Entertainer
January 12th, 2010 at 11:48 AM
Don’t shun Lupica here.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:50 AM
They should just make steroids mandatory like it is in Blurnsball.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:51 AM
I am watching it right now. Renee, supercute!
January 12th, 2010 at 11:51 AM
(groans)
January 12th, 2010 at 11:51 AM
LOL! +1
January 12th, 2010 at 11:51 AM
Can’t remember the last time I was this excited for a TV show.
will all the characters complain about the lack of recognition the Saints get?
January 12th, 2010 at 11:51 AM
so hgh would give me a bigger dick? nice.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:51 AM
Albom and Lupica will blame this all on Barry Bonds, who should be a first ballot Hall of Famer, no questions asked.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:52 AM
Awesome, jpq.
The little feller will have his own pompous slant on things as always.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:53 AM
Renee, supercute!
cute, yes. little crazy though
January 12th, 2010 at 11:53 AM
I honestly believe that McGwire thinks this didn’t help his home run ability. He’s wrong, of course… but I think he legitimately believes everything he said.
The only baseball news that will be a surprise will be if/when baseball decides to reset all the records to Maris, Aaron and others. 61 and 755 are still the marks in my book. I doubt Selig has the stones to do it but when he leaves his post, the next guy might.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:55 AM
only from from massive water retention, so it’ll look like a cheap quality overfilled water balloon.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:55 AM
Completely disagree. If you cheated in a fashion to improve your performance, no matter how good you were before, you should not be in. Guys like Rose should get in. Bonds, McGwire, A-Rod… leave ‘em out. Or at the very least, put them in the basement wing.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:56 AM
sold
January 12th, 2010 at 11:56 AM
Not sure, but they will definitely be talking about the fear Scott Fujita inspires.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:56 AM
Wow. You went all out, even a little drive-by of Blyleven. Also, McGwire was was at least two dimentional (HRs and OBP) but Burt was way more than just a compiler, so whatever.
What I don’t understand is why this kind of steroids is considered a PED, but cortisone shots (which are a form of steroids) are allowed. They have a much more direct link to performance than other steroid types. For an example, look at Scott Rolen in 2006 – he couldn’t catch up to a fastball late in the season because his shoulder was injured, then he has a cortisone shot before the playoffs and he started turning on balls and hitting ropes to left field. Where do we draw the line in what is acceptable?
January 12th, 2010 at 11:56 AM
I don’t think you can do that. You have no way of verifying if every record holder from previous eras didn’t cheat in some form. Hell, we absolutely know for a fact that guys like Gaylord Perry did. The new records are the records, accept it and move on.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:59 AM
If you want to leave the best hitter of your lifetime out of the Hall, that’s your prerogative, but just know that it makes no sense whatsoever.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:59 AM
Aaron’s record all depends on how you view amphetamines.
January 12th, 2010 at 12:00 PM
HGH makes EVERYTHING grow…
EVERYTHING?!?! dirty.
January 12th, 2010 at 12:00 PM
Really? She seams like the only normal one on the show and surprised that VH1 actually casted someone like her.
I heard the next I Love Money may debut this month. Can’t wait, it’s my favorite show. As long as they don’t bring Buckwild back again. At first she was funny, then she just turned into the most annoying person on VH1… which is saying a lot.
January 12th, 2010 at 12:00 PM
so hgh would give me a bigger dick? nice.
It would just appear bigger because your testicles would shrink.
January 12th, 2010 at 12:01 PM
I thought it made your balls shrink.
January 12th, 2010 at 12:03 PM
that’s anabolics, not HGH.
January 12th, 2010 at 12:09 PM
That show and The Game of Thrones will have me purchasing HBO and then canceling it the day after the season is over.
January 12th, 2010 at 1:14 PM
Watched the entire interview again last night. What I got out of it? Bob Costas never did steroids. Bob was the size of a blueberry muffin compared to McGwire.
January 12th, 2010 at 2:43 PM
yeah, i get email up here. lebronsabonerchugger@highhorse.balls, i will put down my ivory backscratcher jsut to read your email.