Tim Tebow’s Anti-Abortion Super Bowl Commercial
NFL, Politics, TV, Tim Tebow January 28th. 2010, 2:45pm


Tim Tebow and his mother will be featured in a Super Bowl commercial. The message will be a polarizing one: Anti-abortion. We tried to avoid the topic this week, but then we stumbled across this New Yorker (!) blog post about it. It deserves attention.
The blogger recounts this tale from Tebow’s father, which was first told in Sports Illustrated:
“When I was out in the mountains in Mindanao, back in ’86, I was showing a film and preaching that night. I was weeping over the millions of babies being [aborted] in America, and I prayed, ‘God, if you give me a son, if you give me Timmy, I’ll raise him to be a preacher.’ ” Not long after, Bob and Pam Tebow conceived their fifth child. It was a very difficult pregnancy. “The placenta was never properly attached, and there was bleeding from the get-go,” Bob recalls. “We thought we’d lost him several times.” Early in the pregnancy Pam contracted amebic dysentery, which briefly put her in a coma. Her doctors, fearful that medications they had given her had damaged the fetus, advised her to abort it. She refused, and on Aug. 14, 1987, Pam delivered a healthy if somewhat scrawny Timothy Richard Tebow.
“All his life, from the moment he could understand, I told him, ‘You’re a miracle baby,’” Bob recalls. “‘God’s got a purpose for you, and at some point I think He’s going to call you to preach.’
“I asked God for a preacher, and he gave me a quarterback.”
It sounds like a line Bob Tebow has been using for years. Can’t you already hear the voiceover being done by Kevin Costner for the CBS movie of the week (over/under: September sweeps, 2013)? A Jonas brother could bulk up and play the role of Tebow. Or perhaps one of those guys in the Twilight films.
Here’s where the author loses us:
There will be a Super Bowl ad about the happy outcome that attends not listening to medical advice. Ignore your doctors, trust in God, and your child, too, can win a Heisman trophy. Will there be empathy in there for women who aren’t ready to risk their lives in order to be given a quarterback?
If so many people are up in arms about Tebow’s commercial, why not pony up the money (or get a group to) for a pro-choice commercial? Next year: Let’s debate the death penalty via commercials at the Super Bowl! 2012: God vs. agnostics!
The real answer, of course, is to mute all commercials. There are no exceptions. Super Bowl or otherwise.
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January 28th, 2010 at 2:46 PM
The smartest thing you’ve ever said in the history of this blog.
January 28th, 2010 at 2:49 PM
WTF do doctors know anyway?
January 28th, 2010 at 2:49 PM
huh, decided to stop ignoring the kerfluffle, TBL?
January 28th, 2010 at 2:49 PM
I do wonder if whatever team drafts Tebow will have a ton of pro choice rallies. Should be interesting.
January 28th, 2010 at 2:49 PM
Yesterday this is a ‘kerfuffle’ not worth the time. Today it gets it’s own post. Alright then.
January 28th, 2010 at 2:51 PM
According to most Senior Bowl reports, you may be getting your preacher back (or maybe a tight end) since he’s not much of a quarterback.
January 28th, 2010 at 2:51 PM
@ miz and ms621 – Kinda tough to ignore the obvious interest it sparked in the comment section yesterday.
January 28th, 2010 at 2:51 PM
Godzilla biscuits…
Trying to make up for Oden wang?
January 28th, 2010 at 2:52 PM
Didn’t take long.
January 28th, 2010 at 2:53 PM
go babies go!
January 28th, 2010 at 2:55 PM
I’m pro-choice but I’m cool with this as long as this is an appeal to individual citizens and not lawmakers.
January 28th, 2010 at 2:55 PM
“I asked God for a preacher, and he gave me
a quarterbacka big guy who can play football. Unfortunately, he can’t throw the ball for shit.”/FTFY’d
January 28th, 2010 at 2:55 PM
1, 2 / 1, 2 / 1, 2 / 2, 1
/TBL
January 28th, 2010 at 2:55 PM
Damn, this crap again. Ugh…
January 28th, 2010 at 2:56 PM
Do you really not understand this point? What happens the other 9 times that Pam Tebow doesn’t listen to her doctors? She dies of internal bleeding, or an infection, or best case scenerio gives birth to a stillborn.
January 28th, 2010 at 2:56 PM
he asked god for a preacher and he was given a preacher.
because god doesn’t make left handed QB’s.
/steve young was mormon
January 28th, 2010 at 2:56 PM
It’s going to be really akward when Tebow carries one of those pictures of a dead fetus into the locker room next year.
January 28th, 2010 at 2:56 PM
Was this the same line Meyer used to recruit him?
January 28th, 2010 at 2:57 PM
from above:
We tried to avoid the topic this week, but then we stumbled across this New Yorker (!) blog post about it. It deserves attention.
January 28th, 2010 at 2:57 PM
what difference does that make?
January 28th, 2010 at 2:57 PM
I wish someone would have aborted the E-trade baby
January 28th, 2010 at 2:57 PM
So if your wife is diagnosed with breast cancer you won’t get a second opinion? Doctors aren’t always right.
January 28th, 2010 at 2:57 PM
@ miz and ms621 – Kinda tough to ignore the obvious interest it sparked in the comment section yesterday.
Fair enough, but that’s not the reason TBL is invoking. He’s implying that this is important because the New Yorker did a blog post on it yesterday. It just doesn’t seem like TBL tried very hard to dodge the subject.
I guess I’m just nitpicking. I’m going to the dentist in an hour and am trying to take my mind off of it.
January 28th, 2010 at 2:58 PM
come on TBL, it’s OK to admit you know their names.
January 28th, 2010 at 2:58 PM
Exactly!
January 28th, 2010 at 2:59 PM
This is horrible on so many levels, but I can’t stop laughing…
+1
January 28th, 2010 at 2:59 PM
Left handed people are a tool of the devil.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:00 PM
I can’t decide if I’m pro choice or pro life. Guess I’ll find out if I get a chick pregnant. I know a commercial from Tim Tebow won’t help me decide. But then again I don’t really have a choice anyway, it all depends on what the girl wants
January 28th, 2010 at 3:00 PM
Yep, that’s why it’s called a practice.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:00 PM
Fuck Flanders and his leftorium.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:00 PM
Maybe – but I am sure we won’t just ignore the doctor and pray everything works out.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:01 PM
Word.
/not left handed
January 28th, 2010 at 3:01 PM
Hes going to HAVE to carry them. If he throws them, the secondary will have time to react and pick them off.
So there you have it, defensive backs are pro abortion.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:01 PM
The difference is that an appeal to individuals is just promotion of your values and doesn’t take away anyone’s right to choose. You’re recommending one course of action but not asking the government to legislate away all the other options.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:02 PM
How do they make people better in practice? PRACTICE? We’re talking about practice.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:02 PM
Left handed people are a tool of the devil.
Someone told me that it’s common for people in Asia to wipe their ass with their left hands and so most people there are right handed.
True or not, it’s still one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:02 PM
I am going to teach them first about values and morals, but if they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:03 PM
i understand the difference of the actual appeal, but what’s difference does it make for a commercial to air?
January 28th, 2010 at 3:03 PM
You’re just a dick Tech fan.
/left-handed UGA alum
January 28th, 2010 at 3:03 PM
I do wonder if whatever team drafts Tebow will have a ton of pro choice rallies. Should be interesting.
They’ve really followed Kurt Warner around.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:03 PM
So who was right in this case, Mrs. Tebow or the doctor?
January 28th, 2010 at 3:04 PM
You have no soul.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:04 PM
so you wont pray? wont ask your family and friends to pray?
January 28th, 2010 at 3:06 PM
Where’s hakeem, T2 is on AMC again, and here’s his favourite part.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:06 PM
I’ve seen pro life rallies, never really seen too many pro choice rallies. Maybe cause you don’t need a rally when it’s already legal
January 28th, 2010 at 3:06 PM
Eh Id just rather not have any of this crap on during the Superbowl. Superbowl’s for beer commercials dammit, dont need any commercials that make me think!
January 28th, 2010 at 3:06 PM
I’d rather pray for an anomaly than listen to some fancy-talkin’ book learner.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:07 PM
Now who’d be dumb enough to make a comment like that? Oops!
January 28th, 2010 at 3:07 PM
Steven Jackson will not approve of Tebow’s message.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:07 PM
I want to see a commercial for pro choice with Steven Jackson
January 28th, 2010 at 3:08 PM
If so many people are up in arms about Tebow’s commercial, why not pony up the money (or get a group to) for a pro-choice commercial?
Yep. No clue why people care. The Super Bowl shoves shitty Bud Light at me all game and I don’t succomb and start buying Bud Light. Ignore it if you don’t like it. Creating a big scene over this only brings more attention.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:08 PM
well, it’s their choice to appear in the commercial, yet people are trying to stop it from happening. i love the irony in this.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:08 PM
that new e-trade baby does suck.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:08 PM
That’s because pro choice people aren’t trying to force anyone to do anything. Pro lifer’s need to scare woman with dead fetus’s and eternal damnation.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:09 PM
my son is also named bort
January 28th, 2010 at 3:10 PM
Can you imagine how big Oden’s cock would be if his mom hadn’t aborted him?
/may be mixing up my memes
January 28th, 2010 at 3:10 PM
Someone told me that it’s common for people in Asia to wipe their ass with their left hands and so most people there are right handed.
If I remember correctly, it used to be a common practice most places during the Middle Ages.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:10 PM
that new e-trade baby does suck.
Yeah, I liked the old baby. This new kid can talk to James Brown, and that I cannot abide.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:11 PM
pwn’d you, YYSA
January 28th, 2010 at 3:12 PM
well done ill
January 28th, 2010 at 3:12 PM
Yesterday: Haitians make too many kids they can’t support. Fuck ‘em.
Today: America should continue to make too many kids they can’t support. Also, lets make sure to cut social programs for those kids. Fuck us.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:13 PM
I’ve seen pro life rallies, never really seen too many pro choice rallies.
That’s because pro choice people aren’t trying to force anyone to do anything. Pro lifer’s need to scare woman with dead fetus’s and eternal damnation.
You’d probably see a lot more pro-choice rallies if abortion was illegal.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:14 PM
Left handed people are a tool of the devil.
Something like 6 of the past 7 presidents have been left handed with W being the exception.
\lefty
January 28th, 2010 at 3:14 PM
So time for dead baby jokes?
January 28th, 2010 at 3:14 PM
is the formspring craze still going or did that one fizzle out?
January 28th, 2010 at 3:14 PM
Not sure I follow…does this mean that if the New Yorker blogs about something then said blog subject cannot be ignored?
If so, that’s ridiculous.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:15 PM
This is my problem with the ad…this wasn’t an issue where the Tebows were deciding on an elective abortion…it was an abortion that was deemed medically advisable. The Tebow’s were graced with a healthy baby boy and a safe mother, but could’ve easily gotten a dead wife and a dead baby. Encouraging people to go against a doctor’s recommendations in a Super Bowl ad is borderline criminal.
It’s like if someone bought a Super Bowl ad telling the story about how their fat grandma ate pure lard for breakfast lunch and dinner, and smoked a carton a day and lived to 100. Yeah, unhealthy people can live long, but it’s not the probable outcome. By all means, if you don’t like what a doctor says, get a second opinion…but don’t just ignore what they say.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:15 PM
Yeah, he’s definitely cutting the line. I should be able to have an audience with the Hardest Workin Man In Show Business before some stupid talking baby.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:17 PM
If I remember correctly, it used to be a common practice most places during the Middle Ages.
If you remember correctly? How old are you ill? Are you The Highlander?
January 28th, 2010 at 3:17 PM
Sounds like you’re advocating abortions for the poor.
/possibly racist
January 28th, 2010 at 3:17 PM
mrejr is still going strong at 306 questions. Fetch and Spencer have one too.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:18 PM
Val Kilmer agrees with this ad. Is Focus on the Family a Christian Science organization?
January 28th, 2010 at 3:18 PM
anyone else finished the vice travel guide to Liberia? fucking crazy
January 28th, 2010 at 3:18 PM
Here’s a thought. How about we all just wait until we see the content of the ad before we bash/support it. Mr. New Yorker blogger hasn’t seen the ad, he just talked to Papa Tebow. Maybe the story Papa relayed to Mr. New Yorker blogger won’t be positioned as such in the ad.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:18 PM
Don’t listen to doctors people. Put all your faith in the Lord and his healing powers. Everything is going to be just fine.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:19 PM
There can only be one.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:19 PM
Has anyone read Freakonomics? Whole section on how legalizing abortion affected the crime rate in the early 90s. That book is great.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:19 PM
So time for dead baby jokes?
What’s the difference between a dead baby and an onion?
-I don’t cry when I’m cutting up an onion
What’s the difference between a dead baby and my pillow?
-I didn’t dry hump my pillow last night.
/couldn’t resist
If you remember correctly? How old are you ill? Are you The Highlander?
+1
January 28th, 2010 at 3:20 PM
You know what I am against? Artificial insemination. Fuck that shit.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:20 PM
If whoever is running this ad wants to waste their money Im fine with it. Roe vs. Wade ain’t getting overturned, and people aren’t going to change their viewpoints on the matter. And if you do change what you think based on what Tim Tebow tells you then you deserve to die in a fire.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:20 PM
Exactly zero commentors have advocated this approach.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:20 PM
Shake: The Highlander was a documentary, and the events were filmed in real time!
January 28th, 2010 at 3:21 PM
but the Tebow family (and others) didn’t look at it as if they ignored what the doctor said. they were aware of what might happen, but believed that something else could, and it did. if other people choose to follow this, that is their prerogative. just like it is cbs’ prerogative to air the commercial. just don’t get what the hangup is over it. cbs might be airing a commercial for a gay dating site that has 2 guys kissing. people will be upset by this. so what? you either agree or you don’t. maybe you do change your mind, but in the end, big fuggin deal.
the only way i see this as a big story is if the gov’t stepped in and said you can’t air this. then there is an issue.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:21 PM
I have one that I haven’t checked in a while I’m gonna title it ‘Ask a Black Guy: Now with less Paul Mooney!’
January 28th, 2010 at 3:21 PM
Wow. I botched the first one.
I’ll see myself out now.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:22 PM
Links?
January 28th, 2010 at 3:23 PM
I found that book to be racist.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:23 PM
i need a directory, formspring. how am i supposed to find these clowns
January 28th, 2010 at 3:26 PM
Sounds like you’re advocating abortions for the poor.
/possibly racist
I can’t understand how people can be for forcing stupid kids to have babies they can’t afford and also be for not providing programs to take care of those unwanted babies AND be against sex education to prevent the unwanted pregnancies in the first place. It just seems like a giant way to scare people to stop having sex, something that won’t work, combined with a good formula for the creation of little criminals.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:28 PM
jose whats it called, i could always use a black guys advice
January 28th, 2010 at 3:28 PM
Interesting. I found it to be awesome.
/non-whitey
This whole thread is just reiterating what was in that book. I don’t agree with everything but it made me think for sure.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:29 PM
Well, I wasn’t pinning it anyone. I don’t particularly care about the abortion debate. But if the commercial in any way follows the narrative described by Tebow’s father… well, these people can go to hell. That’s the wrong message.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:29 PM
the only way i see this as a big story is if the gov’t stepped in and said you can’t air this. then there is an issue.
yep. And just to repeat here, I have no problem with them airing this commercial. I also have no problem if CBS takes it off, though I don’t really see why they should.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:30 PM
agree.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:31 PM
“formspring links”
If you go to mrejrs thing and click on spencer’s name (hes asked a fuckload of questions) you’ll get his. Fetch I think has as well, if not he linked to himself in last night’s late night thread.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:31 PM
The law allows for newborn babies to be dropped off at any hospital in the country no questions asked.
Still racist.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:33 PM
I found that book to be racist.
In what way?
January 28th, 2010 at 3:34 PM
1,4,2,3 on hotness. But EA’s celeb factor puts her #1.
The medical issue is what bothers me about the ad. I am not going to reiterate others opinions but a 30 second ad cannot sum up the incredibly complex issue of a woman who has a pregnancy that is putting her physically at risk.
Frankly I don’t want to see political ad’s during the super bowl. Don’t think it is the appropriate venue and I don’t want to think about politics when I am getting drunk for the last weekend of football season. However, I am a huge advocate of free speech. As much as I disagree with the ad and the group I do not want to censor them.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:35 PM
So everybody is entitled to their opinion as long as they agree with you, huh? Do you even see the irony of wishing hell upon
January 28th, 2010 at 3:35 PM
The law allows for newborn babies to be dropped off at any hospital in the country no questions asked.
You’re still asking the government to pay for kids it doesn’t want to and is quite unwilling to pay for. Also the reality is this isn’t what happens most of the time.
Still racist.
There is only one race of poor people?
January 28th, 2010 at 3:36 PM
upon Christians just they didn’t have an abortion?
/hit enter by accident
January 28th, 2010 at 3:37 PM
whatever it takes for liberal to shut their yappers just do it. hell on draft day wear a “team no-abortion” t-shirt or whatever im not sure how many eyeballs will be watching the 3rd round. or just ignore them and tell them shut the fuck up. run the commercial.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:37 PM
DING DING DING! We have a winner!!
January 28th, 2010 at 3:38 PM
I thought I was making it obvious, yeah.
Well, there’s a difference between being pro-life (an absolutely reasonable position) and being anti-doctor (an entirely unreasonable one). If the narrative of the commercial is done poorly the message could veer to the latter. And that would be stupid.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:38 PM
You’re one of the better commentors around her TST. Don’t be naive.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:39 PM
This is my problem with the ad…this wasn’t an issue where the Tebows were deciding on an elective abortion…it was an abortion that was deemed medically advisable.
DING DING DING! We have a winner!!
Then say why you disagree with the ad. I disagree with the ad. I’m not seeing why that’s a reason not to run the ad.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:39 PM
http://www.formspring.me/JerseyYo, I will answer all your baby killing related questions here.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:39 PM
For anyone that cares
http://www.formspring.me/bobblehead
do it.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:40 PM
I think it’s formspring.me/jaykidd13.
Re:freakenomics I was kinda joking. I don’t think it’s racist but it’s suggestion that a viable solution to reduce crime is by having people in poor cities(aka black people) have abortions didn’t sit well with me
January 28th, 2010 at 3:42 PM
You’re one of the better commentors around her TST.
heh.
I don’t know what your disturbing hick white poor people are like, but there are some ass white poor people down here. I used to live in a college town of about 25,000, delivered pizza. There was an extremely poor black section of town and an extremely poor white section, and they were both scary as fuck at two in the morning.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:43 PM
This thread is appropriate considering I was listening to a Bill Hicks bit earlier today about how a fetus isn’t a person until it’s born and listed in his phone book.
/RIP Bill Hicks.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:43 PM
http://www.formspring.me/mrejr8234 i have been told that my form spring is better than tbl’s
January 28th, 2010 at 3:44 PM
Here’s an idea: Abstinence. How about the parents step up and tell their kids to keep their junk in their pants? Whatever happened to responsibility in this country? Want to have sex? Okay; but your ass is on the hook for the babies/STDs/burdens/pleasures/anything else that may come along it. It is truly amazing the lack of responsibility we see these days. No one said their shouldn’t be safety net programs (insert any charitable donation here; other than the federal damn government), but I’ll be damned if I should be on the hook for anybody elses baby.
Again, no one is asking the government to fund them. This isn’t a conservative-based unfunded mandate; to have programs for babies just to have them born. This is about personal responsibility. And please, please go look at the waiting list for healthy babies in this country. If you encourage people to realize that their are worthwhile, wonderful alternatives to death, they will listen.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:44 PM
That’s not what he said though. He said people that knew that they couldn’t raise kids properly were usually the ones having abortions. He may have implied it was the poor, but never once did he use race.
I can see where you’re coming from, but I think you put some words in his mouth.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:44 PM
This thread is appropriate considering I was listening to a Bill Hicks bit earlier today about how a fetus isn’t a person until it’s born and listed in his phone book.
/RIP Bill Hicks.
Another little miracle. Thunk.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:46 PM
This would have made an awesome commercial, actually.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:47 PM
How may times have we heard a story that starts out with, “the doctors told me I’d never….but I proved them wrong. You’re only worked up over this because the subject is abortion.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:47 PM
Another little miracle. Thunk.
“Children are not special. When a guy cums, it has over 200 million sperm in it. That means that I have wiped whole civilations up with a gray gym sock. THAT’s special!”
January 28th, 2010 at 3:48 PM
The doctors didn’t kill him. We did.
-Michigan, Outback Bowl
January 28th, 2010 at 3:48 PM
Not that I disagree with any of what you’re saying, but there are people around here that treat personal responsibility as if it’s some sort of mystical concept.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:48 PM
Taguchi, I know you don’t like me and I don’t care, but you’re sooooooooo fucking annoying when you immediately jump on me even though I’m agreeing with you about not liking the ad.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:49 PM
Everyone knows that anti-abortion messages just don’t translate to success in the NFL…
January 28th, 2010 at 3:50 PM
I’d rather legislate for this world rather then a perfect one where everybody is responsible I guess heel. Same reason our drug laws don’t work.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:50 PM
don’t think the Tebow’s approach is that they proved the doctors wrong. just sayin…
however, i have become hooked to the veria channel. the show “the incurabales” has brought me into questioning western medicine. not saying it is bad, but not always the only root to go.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:51 PM
Taguchi, I know you don’t like me and I don’t care, but you’re sooooooooo fucking annoying when you immediately jump on me even though I’m agreeing with you about not liking the ad.
I don’t like you? I’m pretty sure thats opposites sugarplums.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:53 PM
I haven’t read it since I was 18 so I don’t remember. And though he didn’t phrase it so race was a factor I happen to know that rCe is a factor in poverty which is a factor in crime. Yeah I made an inference that he didn’t explicitly say but I’m not saying he or the book is racist, I was joking
also if you are puerto rican I would like to sleep with your cousins/aunts provided they are over 18 and under 35
January 28th, 2010 at 3:56 PM
My Formspring. Ask away bitches.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:56 PM
I think formspring has killed TBL.
January 28th, 2010 at 3:59 PM
The Tebow’s story isn’t so much about being pro-choice or pro-life, it’s more about how they went against a doctor’s recommendation and ended up being lucky enough to be an exception to the rule. I think it’s extremely dangerous to tell a story like that in a 30 second (or longer?) COMMERCIAL.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:00 PM
That’s not how I meant it, Sparty. I just meant that we hear stories all the time about how doctors are wrong or how people are told they’re gonna die in 6 months and they live 50 more years. D
January 28th, 2010 at 4:00 PM
I’m definitely pro-choice, but along with that comes the fact that people will choose differently. That’s my issue with the pro-choice side of this Tebow commercial (the organizations, not you people). It’s ok to not like abortion and speak out against it.
If the Tebow add ends up being what people say it is, their story and what amounts to a plea to not have abortions, no one should have a problem with it.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:01 PM
What the hell is it? It’s blocked at work, so I can’t click the link.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:01 PM
Our drug laws don’t work because they aren’t strict enough, IMO. Tell the average dime-bag dealer that he will be in jail 5 years on the first offense, and he will change his tune pretty quickly. Well then what about prison overcrowding? We can build low-security facilities for the incarcerated from which they will work on community reinvestment and other projects while serving, negating a certain level of costs for their stay.
Want to curb unwanted babies being born? Offer zero financial assistance from the federal or local government. However, charitable organizations should be given any and all tax breaks for their organization to help these people.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:01 PM
what if god were aborted? just something to think about.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:02 PM
people have a page where you can ask them inane questions and they give inane answers
January 28th, 2010 at 4:03 PM
Right on SG.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:03 PM
And this is interesting……how?
January 28th, 2010 at 4:04 PM
You’re kidding me, right? So there’s gonna be someone out there who says, “well, I was going to have the operation like the doctors wanted me to but then I saw this commercial during the Superbowl……”?
January 28th, 2010 at 4:04 PM
dangerous to who?
January 28th, 2010 at 4:04 PM
This happened last year in Wisconsin. Yeah, fuck doctors, just pray.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:05 PM
What if C-A-T really spelled, Dog?
January 28th, 2010 at 4:06 PM
st. bear- i don’t believe it will last. the best thing ever would have been if paolo was around to have a formspring. that would be classic stuff.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:06 PM
I’m glad it’s not 8 am, my coffee would be on my screen.
Dude, do you have any idea what the birth rate statistics are in the underdeveloped and developing world?
If you want birthrates to decline, you improve education and living standards. The Western world is the evidence.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:06 PM
It’s a damn shame that kids with cancer get medicaid.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:07 PM
Look, being in a commercial that airs during the Super Bowl is the closest Tebow will ever get to being in the actual game itself, so can’t we all just be happy for him instead of arguing this one time?
January 28th, 2010 at 4:09 PM
I think this gets to the heart of the argument.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:09 PM
big difference here: the tebows believe that the fetus is a human life, so they believe it would be committing murder.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:09 PM
It’s dangerous to the people out there that believe in god so strongly that they think he will just heal their ailments and/or diseases. God is good, but he doesnt work that way. Some people really believe he does though.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:11 PM
I really enjoy how we all presume to know what the content is of a commercial none of us has seen.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:11 PM
You do realize how many uneducated, uninformed, easily swayed people there are in this country alone, right?
January 28th, 2010 at 4:11 PM
What if god were aborted? LOL. Who were gods parents?
January 28th, 2010 at 4:12 PM
but if those people believe in God, they don’t feel they have anything to worry about. if they both die, they ultimately believe they are going some place better, anyway. that is where they find their peace.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:12 PM
This
/troof’d
//welcome to Obamerica
January 28th, 2010 at 4:12 PM
I really enjoy how we all presume to know what the content is of a commercial none of us has seen.
Hey, this is the Internet. If we can’t be assholes, what is this all for?
January 28th, 2010 at 4:13 PM
Of course!!! Obama was elected wasn’t he?
January 28th, 2010 at 4:13 PM
Did you read the New Yorker? They gave a specific description/transcript of the ad.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:13 PM
sure do. watched a speech last night that was evidence of that.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:14 PM
because I am wrong? sike
Dude, did you see my earlier comment about abstinence? Thats a damn fine place to start. Kind of hard not to get pregnant when your not actively seeking sex (other methods aside).
January 28th, 2010 at 4:15 PM
The funniest things always have a grain of truth to it.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:15 PM
This
/troof’d
//welcome to Obamerica
Things were so much better for everybody in the 1930s. I sure do miss that idyllic golden age.
/also a Highlander
January 28th, 2010 at 4:15 PM
Yeah but what about their innocent children that may not know anything other than what their parents are telling them. That god will heal them. Then the kid dies.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:16 PM
where does this fit in as a rebuttal to my arguments?
January 28th, 2010 at 4:16 PM
The New Yorker, well there’s an objective voice in the media.
Really thought my Tebow joke would be better received.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:16 PM
Yea they should get off thier boney asses and work. That is my tax money going to waste godammit!
/fucking morons
January 28th, 2010 at 4:17 PM
Are you talking about Christian Science? Not the best example to use.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:18 PM
Anybody that truly believes abstinence is a viable solution to unwanted pregnancy in society is a flat out idiot.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:18 PM
but this is an anti-abortion commercial, not an don’t listen to your doctor all the time commercial.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:19 PM
It doesn’t work. Best bet is to just give out free condoms and tell the truth about sex. It is wonderful, but like everything has its risks. teaching abstinence clearly does not work.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:19 PM
The only person that should be giving out medical advice during a commercial is a doctor, not Tim Tebow or his mom and dad. I would be fine if they wanted to do a commercial about how much they love God but kept their medical history out of it.
You’re saying the President is uneducated and uninformed? Seriously? I get it, you’re a Christian who doesn’t like him because he’s too liberal but don’t make a stupid comment like that.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:20 PM
How so? I was under the impression that people have to engage in intercourse in order to have children.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:20 PM
I am just saying that there are a lot of religious nuts out there that believe if they pray enough, god will heal them or help them in some way that is not the norm.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:20 PM
You are clearly saying that the “unwanted” babies are being born to poor people because those poor people are motivated by the reward of federal assistance.
Which is a typical argument, but wrong. If your goal is to reduce birthrate amongst a population (which your goal clearly is) — you educate and raise their living standards.
Pulling federal assistance will just get you a bunch of starving, sick uneducated children.
Maybe that’s what you’d prefer, I don’t know.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:20 PM
Ah yes. When men carried pocketwatches, women wore bulky support undergarments and kids got to drink beer before work.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:20 PM
We already have the highest documented incarceration rate in the world, which is kind of a blot on being the most free country and all. Lets make it worse. Also, I’m not sure that would be a good way to dissudade people from drugging and fucking, especially since we established yesterday that prison is better than the lives of most poor people (apparently).
January 28th, 2010 at 4:20 PM
i meant the people who elected him. this president is incredibly educated and a very smart man. i don’t doubt that at all.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:21 PM
Travis Henry disagrees with Tim Tebow’s commercial.
I hate the abortion issue. Just leave it to the chicks to figure out…hell I grew up in Detroit and lotta them cats I grew up with probably wouldn’t be missed if they were aborted.
Furthermore, we all see chicks who have no business raising kids. I can look at a chick and tell whether or not her kid will be stealing my car by the time they reach puberty. Go head and sever that little bastard before my insurance rates have to rise
January 28th, 2010 at 4:21 PM
Yes, you are only allowed to say stuff like that about republicans. Don’t you know how America works. Silly christians!
January 28th, 2010 at 4:22 PM
Also, since we can’t stop drugging and fucking in prisons at current population levels it would seem to be a happy place for these high fornicators to be.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:22 PM
No one said that everyone would listen. But to write it off as a waste of time would be something that, as you like to call them, a flat out idiot would do. I guess the better alternative would be to give up on the best alternative, however far fetched and overlay ambitious you think it is.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:22 PM
NEWSFLASH: People have sex. They always have and always will. Abstinence works in a perfect fairy tale world maybe, not is reality.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:22 PM
They’re taking a MEDICAL SCENARIO where a doctor suggested an abortion and turning it into an anti-abortion commercial.
It’s like talking to a fucking brick wall today.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:23 PM
This topic always amuses me since it’s never going to be criminalized but is just a talking point for politicians to get people out to the polls to vote for them
If you don’t like abortion don’t get one…shouldn’t be any more complicated than that
January 28th, 2010 at 4:23 PM
Wait did someone seriously just try to advocate abstinence?
January 28th, 2010 at 4:23 PM
that was beautiful, man
/single tear rolls down face
January 28th, 2010 at 4:24 PM
Well most christians are not like that. Do you really think that the average christian just sits around and prays and expects everything great to happen to them as a result?
January 28th, 2010 at 4:24 PM
AC Green didn’t have any kids or pick up any STDs during his NBA career, do you know why that he was able to avoid that with 100% certainty?
January 28th, 2010 at 4:24 PM
Yes. I think it was Sarah Palin’s daughter.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:24 PM
Yeah this OHHEELYEAH person did.
What a joke!!!!
January 28th, 2010 at 4:24 PM
Uh, yes. Did you? That is not a transcript from the commercial. I understand your confusion though. Mr New Yorker blogger was trying to be cute with his “Cut to a mission in the Philippines” line. I thought the same thing as you at first.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:25 PM
Or, you know, they could educate themselves and raise their own standard of living.
Nah, that would require too much effort.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:25 PM
AC Green didn’t have any kids or pick up any STDs during his NBA career, do you know why that he was able to avoid that with 100% certainty?
high quality internet porn.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:25 PM
Sparty, when I say people, I meant the vast majority. Of course there are exceptions to everything.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:26 PM
what is the recommended procedure in this commercial?
January 28th, 2010 at 4:26 PM
You wouldn’t give two shits about this commercial if the subject was alternative medicine. Abortion is what’s got you in a fighting mood. It’s good to know that anyone who disagrees with you is stupid. What’s it like to be the smartest person in the world?
January 28th, 2010 at 4:26 PM
YES. If I had a nickel for everytime I heard…”Just put it in the hands of god” OR “just let go and let god, baby” OR “The Lord works in mysterious ways” OR “God doesn’t come when you necessarily want him, but he comes right on time”
I’d have a lot of fuc*ing NICKELS.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:27 PM
Wrong. The lack of my pegging my beliefs to a certain class should have made that clear. Please go back and find where I said we need to stick it to the poor people.
So we’ll have federally funded classes on putting rubbers on bananas, but none on abstinence. Excellent Plan. Raise their living standards? As in I, me, need to raise their living standards? Thought so.
Negative. What happened when we pulled back on the welfare programs under Clinton? People got off their asses and did things for themselves. And so ensues personal responsibility. Have a little more faith in your fellow man that they will rise to the occasion. Or don’t. Who cares.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:27 PM
I think being ugly was a contributing factor.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:27 PM
“Mr. New Yorker blogger” is a woman.
But you knew that. Because you read it.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:27 PM
Here’s another NEWSFLASH: having sex can and will lead to getting a woman pregnant. Be prepared to deal with the consequences and the responsibilities.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:28 PM
The poor and uneducated all over the world are lazy. You’re always right, Mike!
Mike — Let me guess, you didn’t go to a public city school. You don’t even need to answer.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:30 PM
So we’ll have federally funded classes on putting rubbers on bananas, but none on abstinence. Excellent Plan. Raise their living standards? As in I, me, need to raise their living standards? Thought so.
Has there been a sex education class in history that didn’t start and end with “don’t fuck,” with a list of all the problems fucking can cause and multiple reiterations of “abstinence is the only 100% effective method?” Because if there has thats a pretty stupid class.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:30 PM
You don’t know with 100% certainty that AC Green didn’t pick up an STD or have a kid. Unless of course you checked his hymen. Even if he wasn’t lying he’s ONE guy. How many other professional athletes have the fortitude to be like him and Britney Spears. Do you personally know anyone who has abstained from sex that is over 30?
January 28th, 2010 at 4:30 PM
Are you for real? It’s just an expression. My grandmother had cancer and said stuff liek that, but guess what, she still went to the doctor.
Has anyone ever pissed you off so much you said you were going to kill them? And how many of them did you actually kill?
Peace out. I’m going to Costco.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:30 PM
Probably time to reexamine your social circle then.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:30 PM
Here’s ANOTHER NEWSFLASH–IF you get a broad chick pregnant–then she can have an abortion which is one of the ‘consequences and responsibilities’ out of the situation.
Man I love the news.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:30 PM
It’s got to be hard to be you, MikeNYC and oheelyeah. With all these poor people always dragging you down!
January 28th, 2010 at 4:31 PM
You do know that GW pushed hard for abstinence only programs and it was realized IT DID NOT WORK!!!! He refused to give money to any other form of sex education unless it was abstinence only.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:31 PM
yes.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:31 PM
Not if you do it in a hot tub. Everybody knows that
January 28th, 2010 at 4:33 PM
I need a job. Between the Chicago sports media being in a fucking tizzy over some pictures of a few Blackhawks boozing in a limo, Paul Shirley writing an incredibly ignorant column about Haiti, the State of the Union Address and this Tim Tebow bullshit, I’m about ready to down a bottle of pills and call it a day.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:33 PM
Touche GP. Didn’t read the byline, but it doesn’t change the fact that it isn’t a transcript of the commercial.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:33 PM
yeah those are more u2 lyrics than quotes people i know say
January 28th, 2010 at 4:33 PM
Sportsdork — Let me guess, you don’t pay any income taxes. You don’t even need to answer.
/this game is fun
January 28th, 2010 at 4:33 PM
Did you check that persons hymen?
January 28th, 2010 at 4:33 PM
January 28th, 2010 at 4:33 PM
Some choose celibacy, others have celibacy thrust upon them.
/Patty’d
//or Selma, not sure which
January 28th, 2010 at 4:34 PM
Sometimes it’s my circle–sometimes not…still the point is–Christians believe such nonsense.
A “friend” has a Facebook status right now that says…”I don’t know what job to take, but I’m going to put it in the hands of god” –WTF?
January 28th, 2010 at 4:36 PM
Only if she decides to have an abortion. You aren’t part of that decision making process (in a legal sense). You’ve made your decision at that point, and you’re the one that will have to deal with the consequences. Also, you’ve managed to underscore the fact that a large part of the pro-choice movement isn’t pro-choice at all, but pro-abortion, which are two very different things.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:37 PM
ROOCH,
I hear ya. I know a lot of people that are like “god will take care of things” or “it is now in the hands of god.”
January 28th, 2010 at 4:37 PM
Probably Patty since Selma no doubt banged Sideshow Bob on their honeymoon…don’t think Patty ever got that far with Skinner (and then I believe she became a lesbian down the road)
Mike, I mean this in the nicest way possible…when you see a homeless person holding out a cup do you slap it out of their hand and then laugh?
January 28th, 2010 at 4:38 PM
MIKE NYC, you are an ignorant fuck.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:39 PM
I hate the fact that this is true.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:39 PM
How come Republicans care more about the unborn fetus than the actual baby once it is born??? Hmmmmmm.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:40 PM
Ha. When I first moved here, all the time! Now it gets kind of old, though.
Personal attack?
January 28th, 2010 at 4:41 PM
This is fun Mike.
Get pregnant.
Choices? Abort – Keep it and raise it – Or…give it up for adoption.
Oh, this too: the States should decide their own abortion policy. Keep the Federal Government the hell out of it.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:41 PM
MIKE NYC, you are an ignorant fuck.
Mike definitely isn’t ignorant, and I don’t really think he’s a fuck. He would probably lose his head during most of the French Revolutions though.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:41 PM
I know Ty Duffy might have an aneurysm, but most of America just might not be pro-choice (gasp!). Yes, it’s true. Even according to liberal magazines!
http://nymag.com/news/features/62379/
Then again, anyone who is pro-life must be racist, stupid, and never thinks for themselves…correct, Lefties?
January 28th, 2010 at 4:41 PM
Another good article on the complete failure of abstinence only education.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:42 PM
BOBBY!! Did you see how many people fellated Ty Duffy yesterday? Did you see it???!!!! It was magical.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:43 PM
mikeNYC – I’a married 28 year old software engineer. my wife is a teacher. I own a home. I pay plenty of all kinds of taxes.
our difference may be I don’t hate poor people.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:43 PM
So it’s safe to say you’ve run out of logical arguments.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:43 PM
You can insert any number of issues in there instead of abortion, and it would be just as true.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:43 PM
Who could have foreseen this thread degenerating into a knife fight? I’m scandalized.
Hey, the Broncos just named Don Martindale defensive coordinator!
January 28th, 2010 at 4:44 PM
/fixed
January 28th, 2010 at 4:44 PM
Best thing I’ve read all day. This is what makes me respect your opinion even when we disagree. Witty and thoughtful.
Well done TST.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:45 PM
You’re talking about sex with someone else, right? If so, then my answer is Yelnik.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:46 PM
+ infinity
January 28th, 2010 at 4:46 PM
I’m sorry Mike, but saying this makes you look totally ignorant in my view.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:46 PM
I don’t think a woman’s right to choose should be something that’s put to a vote, should just be declared a civil right and have that be that
Again, if you don’t like abortion, don’t get one
January 28th, 2010 at 4:46 PM
damn you lefty!
January 28th, 2010 at 4:47 PM
i cant trust a guy who isnt willing to fuck coeds when their hot asses is surrounding him and he has that type of status on campus
January 28th, 2010 at 4:47 PM
Best thing I’ve read all day. This is what makes me respect your opinion even when we disagree. Witty and thoughtful.
Well done TST.
IRISH!
Thanks.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:48 PM
plus infinity.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:49 PM
IRISH!
hi
January 28th, 2010 at 4:50 PM
Haha! That’s what you get for f’in about on formspring.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:50 PM
I FOUND TEBOW!!!!!
January 28th, 2010 at 4:51 PM
IRISH!
hi
hi to you!
Haha! That’s what you get for f’in about on formspring.
Does anyone besides me not have a formspring?
January 28th, 2010 at 4:51 PM
I really don’t hate anybody. I’m just pretty indifferent.
Gooch probably knows that one off the top of his head.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:52 PM
Very true–and I’m not an idiot and understand this. zing! lol
Personally I don’t give 2 shi*s if people are pro abortion or pro choice–it’s just a matter of wording.
Main thing is–you’ve got all these right wingers saying how they want smaller government–yet they want BIG BAD government to decide whether or not a woman can have an abortion. I swear…it’s borderline lunacy.
Personally I don’t have a dog in the fight since I’m married and won’t be having random kids–but for the sake of personal rights, I care.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:55 PM
Also–more educated populace would equal less unprotected sex and ergo less abortions. But the byproduct of more educated populace, is that those in power don’t have an underclass to manipulate and dominate.
Those damn tradeoffs.
No one truly wants to solve that problem though–they’d rather just legislate from the safe haven of middle/upper class world. Plus you know…educating people would uh…cost money–oh no TAXES!
I care so much about people, but don’t ask me to be part of a broader community and pitch in to ensure they have equal education.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:56 PM
Gooch probably knows that one off the top of his head.
Nope, I’ve actually managed to never read that one, read Anthem though and liked it even though I get the impression I’m not a Rand disciple. I was actually looking for a quote by her which is something like the only way to control free men is to make things crimes that are not crimes” earlier this thread but couldn’t find it.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:57 PM
I wish the federal government had never touched civil rights or child labor.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:57 PM
Hey, I forgot that episode.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:57 PM
So Mississippi could keep slavery until 1995? Maybe we should just have a confederation of states instead
January 28th, 2010 at 4:58 PM
I’m just going to jump right in here, but Rooch how many of those people actually stop going to the doctor? I would bet none of them. Just because they believe in a higher power and you don’t understand it, doesn’t mean that they are dumb. I know its not cool to think that God or whatever you want to call it can make miracles happen, but they can. I’m not saying that you rely on God alone, but a little prayer and faith never hurt anyone.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:59 PM
The Christian right considers abortion murder which governments have laws to prevent. You can either agree or disagree with their view but framing this as a big goverment versus little government issue is merely a pro choice talking point and utterly false.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:59 PM
That’s it I’m rewatching Season two tomorrow.
January 28th, 2010 at 5:01 PM
i would have let them secede.
January 28th, 2010 at 5:01 PM
^^True Wheels.
I don’t say they’re dumb. I just say they’re believing nonsense.
I rarely ever call Christians dumb…most of my friends I give a pass because our parents usually came from the South (after the whole slavery thing of course) and we have had Christianity drilled in us from birth.
Slaves used it to hope for an afterlife instead of the hell they were going through; Hell MLK used it to get us from under oppression (if you subscribe to giving him mass credit as society does).
So they’re not dumb–just creatures of habit.
January 28th, 2010 at 5:06 PM
Yes–the same right that supports the death penalty even though the justice system has been proven unjust depending on race…
That same right isn’t up in arms when the police are out here beating minorites to death at a disproportionate rate. They care about certain ‘types’ of murder and certain ‘types’ of other injustices…but hey–selective caring–that’s where it’s at.
Many of the christian right are up in arms about public health care — which would surely save the lives of some people who are poor and receive shitty health care. But oh…who cares about those folks.
Still…I don’t need government inserting its nose into this decision personally.
January 28th, 2010 at 5:09 PM
You would have let them secede? Well being that I’m black and from Arkansas… Fuck that.
January 28th, 2010 at 5:10 PM
i didn’t say i agreed with slavery and racism.
January 28th, 2010 at 5:12 PM
Not to nitpick, but if the justice system is unjust on the basis of race, it shouldn’t really matter what the punishment is, because that’s not the problem. If the problem is how you determine whether a person is guilty or not, then the punishment is irrelevant.
January 28th, 2010 at 5:12 PM
You’re Corliss Williamson? Was Nolan Richardson an asshole?
January 28th, 2010 at 5:13 PM
” I swear, by my life and my love of it, that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine”
that’s very convenient for someone who i’m sure grew up in some all white suburb with every opportunity in the world given to them.
your philosophies might be a little different if you were born in detroit, i’m guessing.
also, ayn rand is for privileged assholes.
January 28th, 2010 at 5:16 PM
Not to nitpick, but if the justice system is unjust on the basis of race, it shouldn’t really matter what the punishment is, because that’s not the problem. If the problem is how you determine whether a person is guilty or not, then the punishment is irrelevant.
The problem with the death penalty in this area is that the death penalty is far more likely to be given to blacks convicted of the same crimes as whites, if I’m remembering my criminal justice 101 properly.
January 28th, 2010 at 5:16 PM
Ha! I just caught that — very true. lol–I’ve been feverishly running rampant …some cross-pollenization occurred
January 28th, 2010 at 5:20 PM
I’ll take solace in knowing that some white guy in Michigan doesn’t support slavery while Im picking cotton in Arkansas. Like I’d give a shit.
January 28th, 2010 at 5:20 PM
leave corliss and nolan out of this.
January 28th, 2010 at 5:21 PM
Nothing you’ve written her supports your original assumption that the right’s view of abortion law is at odds with limited government.
January 28th, 2010 at 5:24 PM
NJ, buddy.
January 28th, 2010 at 5:26 PM
sportsdork – stop while you’re slightly behind. It’s difficult to take you seriously, what with your name calling and ridiculous statements, as evidenced above.
It’s tiresome.
January 28th, 2010 at 5:28 PM
No–because IF that’s the framework that you’ll use as the Christian right’s justification–then the only leap that can be made to counter it is that we should stop prosecuting murder–lol. Too much gov’t involvement in crime!
Therefore–one must point out their hypocrisy in relation to similar matters in order to deflate that point.
But I’ll give you that much — IF that’s the main premise of the Christian right…that’s fine. But you can’t be so against murder in one fashion, yet turn the other way on other issues.
Which in turn leads me to believe is it a GENUINE stance or not? If it’s genuine–then murder in other instances should be just as appalling. (i.e. the death penalty; or deaths due to poor health care; etc.)
January 28th, 2010 at 5:29 PM
This thread has run its course.
/ciao’d
January 28th, 2010 at 5:32 PM
so…what’d i miss?
January 28th, 2010 at 5:32 PM
kingofthejust – precisely how far am I behind? I need to update my Internet scorecard.
January 28th, 2010 at 5:35 PM
Good grief rooch, can you do anything besides spout talking points? Now it’s the old “you can’t be against abortion and for the death penalty” argument. If you can’t tell the difference, I can’t help you.
ditto’d
January 28th, 2010 at 5:36 PM
I wonder if anything was accomplished after nearly 300 comments.
/Didn’t read thread.
January 28th, 2010 at 5:39 PM
so…what’d i miss?
I got rear-ended by some c**t this afternoon in my glorious new car I went on and on about yesterday and my back is killing me. THAT”S WHAT YOU MISSED!
January 28th, 2010 at 5:40 PM
I believe we all agree Tim Tebow still throws like a woman
January 28th, 2010 at 5:40 PM
That’s very convenient for you to assume things that are just flat out wrong, but that seems to be your forte around here, now doesn’t it?
Believe me — people who have pulled themselves up by their own bootstraps know and appreciate what it takes to get ahead in this world. Nobody owes you anything. Don’t ever forget that.
January 28th, 2010 at 5:41 PM
damn…that bitch shoulda been aborted.
January 28th, 2010 at 5:41 PM
was gone for a few hours. looks like nothing has changed around here. feel like i might have to break out the ban hammer. some guys turning into one-trick ponies.
January 28th, 2010 at 5:42 PM
I got rear-ended by some c**t this afternoon in my glorious new car I went on and on about yesterday and my back is killing me. THAT”S WHAT YOU MISSED!
That’s not what you use to rear end somebody.
(laughter)
I wonder if anything was accomplished after nearly 300 comments.
I learned I hate Sportsgal, which when combined with the information gleaned from BobbyBeingManny this weekend that I blow Duffy and love everything he does makes me wonder if I even know who I am anymore.
January 28th, 2010 at 5:44 PM
BUT TEBOW DOES THROW LIKE A WOMAN!! THIS IS FASCIST!!
January 28th, 2010 at 5:45 PM
”Thats very convenient for you to assume things that are just flat out wrong, but that seems to be your forte around here, now doesnt it?”
like I said far too long ago on this same thread. this is the Internet. if we can’t be assholes on message boards than what is this all for?
sorry bout any name calling though, seriously. I do occasionally get… um… carried away.
January 28th, 2010 at 5:46 PM
Porn and solitaire?
January 28th, 2010 at 5:47 PM
So, God is great, poor people suck, and liberals are evil. Yawn.
January 28th, 2010 at 5:48 PM
Like President Obama and Judge Sotomayor
January 28th, 2010 at 5:49 PM
was gone for a few hours. looks like nothing has changed around here. feel like i might have to break out the ban hammer. some guys turning into one-trick ponies.
So, God is great, poor people suck, and liberals are evil. Yawn.
Not Bsanders!
January 28th, 2010 at 5:49 PM
Oh boy, I can’t wait to read all 289 comments!
/no chance in hell
January 28th, 2010 at 5:49 PM
You’re forgetting bootstraps! BOOTSTRAPS!
January 28th, 2010 at 5:51 PM
was gone for a few hours. looks like nothing has changed around here. feel like i might have to break out the ban hammer. some guys turning into one-trick ponies.
the dinner party bell is getting ready to ring!
bsanders: you’re better than that
January 28th, 2010 at 5:51 PM
I’d like to see some be-strapped boots, myself. I only ever notice the kind with laces.
January 28th, 2010 at 5:55 PM
I can’t believe I’m even having a discussion with someone who supports states rights to the point of secession and enslavement. This is the world I live in.
January 28th, 2010 at 5:55 PM
was gone for a few hours. looks like nothing has changed around here. feel like i might have to break out the ban hammer. some guys turning into one-trick ponies.
this.
January 28th, 2010 at 5:56 PM
And Sparty thinks slavery is ok, as long as countries secede from the union first.
Michigan is the most diverse state I’ve ever been to, that’s for sure.
January 28th, 2010 at 5:57 PM
What did I do?
January 28th, 2010 at 5:59 PM
I read this thread. It wasn’t fun to read. I’d say to all you dudes what I’ve said to several Catholics in real life. We may not get to “no abortions” in the US, but we can certainly educate and end up with a whole lot fewer abortions. You can’t outlaw abortions and get to no abortions.
That doesn’t work on them, so I doubt it would work on you either.
January 28th, 2010 at 5:59 PM
Absolutely.
January 28th, 2010 at 6:00 PM
where did i say that supported enslavement? but go ahead an misrepresent what I said irresponsibly. very mature.
January 28th, 2010 at 6:01 PM
Can you read?
January 28th, 2010 at 6:03 PM
yes. can you?
January 28th, 2010 at 6:03 PM
Poor Matty Saracen.
January 28th, 2010 at 6:04 PM
What did I do?
I was making a joke, you were offending JPQ.
this.
I’ll miss you dirt.
January 28th, 2010 at 6:04 PM
I don’t understand what Jose thinks Sparty said either so perhaps Jose should clear that up for everybody.
January 28th, 2010 at 6:06 PM
Sickest.Burn.Evar
January 28th, 2010 at 6:08 PM
What did I do?
So, God is great, poor people suck, and liberals are evil. Yawn.
you are smart enough to not marginalize anyone who is pro-life/Conservative. I’m pro-choice, as you know, but I don’t think poor people suck or Liberals are evil. You sound like that fucktard Ed Schultz. I’m not “mad” or harping on it, just sayin’.
If someone said “God doesn’t exist, poor people should be handed everything for free, and Conservatives are evil.”, that person would get a little grief also.
/keep in mind my earlier comment, not in the best of moods
January 28th, 2010 at 6:14 PM
It was just a joke. I was trying to sum up the 300 comments. I’m pro choice, but abortion is not something I treat lightly, as I’m very familiar with it (I’m sure you can infer from that). It’s a terrible thing, but sometimes it’s the only realistic option. I also wasn’t trying to bash conservatives, but every once in a while all the shitting on the poor and blaming them for their situation that pops up in the comments here gets to me.
January 28th, 2010 at 6:15 PM
is the best time for this kind of thing 430 pm on a friday? like at a real job? so there’s less chance of an ‘incident?’
i just looked at the last 40 comments the guy has made. 28 have involved me. obsess much? at least he’s consistent.
January 28th, 2010 at 6:18 PM
is the best time for this kind of thing 430 pm on a friday? like at a real job? so there’s less chance of an ‘incident?’
i just looked at the last 40 comments the guy has made. 28 have involved me. obsess much? at least he’s consistent.
You’re scary when your vague.
January 28th, 2010 at 6:20 PM
in this thread?
January 28th, 2010 at 6:21 PM
hes been trying to get banned for probably a couple weeks
January 28th, 2010 at 6:22 PM
it was nice knowing you sparty.
January 28th, 2010 at 6:22 PM
Are you watching it right now? I thought he did a great job with the “I’m just having a moment right now” scene at the Taylors. Unless I completely missed the joke and am now looking real foolish.
January 28th, 2010 at 6:22 PM
bsanders: like I said, I just got here, didn’t have to put up w/ all the 300 comments and whatever else went on, and was a little pissy when I got here, because my back is/was killing me. Sorry. I should have just let it fly by.
TBL: I worked for a Fortune 50 company that had a Clooney-like guy who would whack you at lunch on a Friday. If you saw him walking around on a Friday, people shit their pants. He would take them to lunch, whack them, bring them back to the parking lot, where security would be waiting with all their possessions already boxed up. The ynever even re-entered the building. They vanished like they never existed.
/now it’s not, thx to “Mother-in-Law’s Little Helpers”
January 28th, 2010 at 6:23 PM
TBL, it’s Thursday for one thing. And second, who in the world are you talking about?
January 28th, 2010 at 6:24 PM
nah, but i have a good feeling that it is someone close enough to me.
January 28th, 2010 at 6:26 PM
has he been trying to get banned sparty? definitely has seemed like it
January 28th, 2010 at 6:26 PM
nah, but i have a good feeling that it is someone close enough to me.
yep, and there are 5 others that I would do in a second before that one. He’s doing it as his own kind of joke at TBL. The 5 others I’m thinking of just spread stupidity and nonsense on a variety of subjects
January 28th, 2010 at 6:26 PM
NOT MIZ AND HIS BEAUTIFUL AVATAR!!! NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 28th, 2010 at 6:27 PM
don’t think he is trying to. he hasn’t told me that he is.
January 28th, 2010 at 6:28 PM
yep, and there are 5 others that I would do in a second before that one. He’s doing it as his own kind of joke at TBL. The 5 others I’m thinking of just spread stupidity and nonsense on a variety of subjects
let’s compare lists.
January 28th, 2010 at 6:30 PM
Are you guys speaking in code?
January 28th, 2010 at 6:30 PM
well, hopefully i can log in later. right now i have to turn over my computer to a 4 year old that wants to play on NickJr.com
January 28th, 2010 at 6:33 PM
dirt: email me if you want @yahoo. Coincidentally, I got an email an hour or so ago from a very well known “former” commenter, although that’s between he and I.
January 28th, 2010 at 6:33 PM
That’s what it sounds like to me.
January 28th, 2010 at 6:36 PM
Secrets don’t make friends
January 28th, 2010 at 6:37 PM
How is Jay the Most Hated doing?
January 28th, 2010 at 6:38 PM
What the fuck did I miss? Jesus, I thought this thread was dead at 3pm and so I moved onto something else. It doubled in size over that time.
January 28th, 2010 at 6:39 PM
dirt: email me if you want @yahoo.
done. Now maybe you, me and Irish can watch a Bills game together.
January 28th, 2010 at 6:41 PM
How is Jay the Most Hated doing?
ha. I don’t even think I remember him, or “Jesus” that others have talked about. They were either a looong time ago, or I just never paid attention to them. Coolrick and his other various names was one of the first banhammers that I remember
dirt: LOL!
January 28th, 2010 at 6:45 PM
Jesus was great particularly how he never left character when typing a comment. I thought he self-banned himself though.
January 28th, 2010 at 7:10 PM
Assuming it’s the one everyone would assume it is, said ex-commmenter managed to get a buddy of mine on his e-blast somehow…which is odd, because the dude doesn’t even comment here.
January 28th, 2010 at 7:21 PM
done. Now maybe you, me and Irish can watch a Bills game together.
not
January 28th, 2010 at 9:31 PM
What if those people had a child and when they died the children were put in foster care? It would be pretty selfish for the parents don’t you think?