Jets Bandwagon Gets Flat Tire Pulling Out of the Garage: Baltimore 10, New York 9
NFL, Video September 14th. 2010, 10:15amGrotesque. Abhorrent. A complete and utter debacle. Ravens 10, Jets 9. If you look back at last year’s season opener (24-7 win at Houston), last night’s clunker was the polar opposite . But … we’ll open with a few words of optimism!
* The Ravens are Super Bowl contenders (who were missing arguably their best defensive player, Ed Reed)
* The Ravens running game, which rushed for 234 yards in the playoffs against the Patriots, had just 49 yards on the ground (1.4 ypc) against a defense that lost its nose tackle, Kris Jenkins, to injury in the first quarter
* The Jets only gained 176 yards of offense, had six first-downs, and 14 penalties for 125 yards … and still were only a FG away from winning the game if they could get about 50 yards on the final drive
And that’s about it. The negatives? Well, if you have an hour …
* The Jets were smoked by Peyton Manning in the AFC title game and upgraded their No. 2 and 3 cornerbacks by signing Antonio Cromartie and drafting Kyle Wilson. Both had horrendous debuts, and were repeatedly burned by Anquan Boldin or Derrick Mason. Cromartie did have a nice interception and return (video below), but he was flagged numerous times for penalties; Wilson had a costly pass-interference call on 3rd down that gave the Ravens 1st and goal (which led to their only touchdown). The Ravens got six first downs via penalty, a franchise record. OPTIMIST: That was probably a top five receiving corps in the league. PESSIMIST: The Patriots, who also have a top five receiving corps, are coming to town in five days.
* We kept ranting all summer about chemistry problems … how much of that has to do with 14 penalties? Tough to tell, but there were a couple on the offensive line (which shouldn’t really happen at home). Braylon Edwards had two horrible ones – he wasn’t set on one play, which wiped out a Sanchez pass to Dustin Keller that put the Jets inside the 10; on another one, he was called for running into the kicker (questionable), which ultimately led to the Ravens’ only touchdown.
* We kept ranting all summer about running back being a major issues … Shonne Greene fumbled twice (lost one, which hurt bad; it was right after the Cromartie pick as the Jets seemed poised to go up 13-0) and as a result, he was on the field in the second half for one play (he dropped a screen pass). Warm up Chauncey Washington, because LT can’t handle 15-20 carries a game.
* The rancor toward Mark Sanchez will be ratcheted up a bit today because a) The Jets didn’t convert a 3rd down until final minute, b) he was just 10-of-21 for 74 yards. He didn’t turn the ball over. The offensive conservatism (run, run, pass) was not going to work against an experienced front seven like Baltimore’s; that falls upon the offensive coordinator. We’ll give Sanchez until week six (Santonio Holmes arrives in week four) before really hammering him.
* What does a week one loss mean? “Since the N.F.L. realigned the divisions in 2002, 52.3 percent of 1-0 teams made the playoffs compared with just 22.7 percent of teams that dropped their first game.” Interesting collection of teams who lost in week 1, many of whom were picked as division winners: Cowboys (road), Vikings (road), 49ers (road), Jets (home), Colts (road), Chargers (road). We still won’t totally panic for the Jets after a week two loss to the Patriots. But lose that week three game in Miami …

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September 14th, 2010 at 10:19 AM
Sanchize’s primary receiver on every play: the check-down
The Ravens best defense would’ve been having every defender within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:20 AM
As much as I’d like to rip the Mexigod, the Ravens are a pretty salty defense. I don’t think Sanchez will look like complete shit all year. He was playing some stout competition. He’s not ready to handle playing a team like Baltimore yet.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:20 AM
o shoot forgot about Chauncey.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:20 AM
/settles in, awaits scorn.
i’ll be here for 10 minutes. let’s hear. get it all off your chest, boys.
at the bottom, you’ll see 6 division contenders lost opening weekend. only one was at home. DOH!
September 14th, 2010 at 10:20 AM
RELEASE THE KRAKEN!
September 14th, 2010 at 10:20 AM
Mark Sanchez should be fed to the Rancor.
/Nice writeup, TBL
September 14th, 2010 at 10:20 AM
The Jets running game will be fine. But if that is their gameplan offensively for the entire season they aren’t going to give their excellent defense much room for error.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:20 AM
Jets had no excuses. Great game by Ray Murda. 35 years young
September 14th, 2010 at 10:21 AM
Sanchez showed a lot of poise in understanding that his coaching staff and team have zero faith in him.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:21 AM
Most important factor here, and biggest difference. Four out of the other five teams lost road games to division opponents, also. That happens.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:21 AM
sanchez and the co-ordinator seemed to be on completely different pages, unable to communicate with eachother. not a good sign, especially since sanchez either lacked the confidence to look downfield or the co-ordinator didn’t have any confidence in sanchez to throw downfield.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:21 AM
Pats are going to work us next week.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:22 AM
Pluses for the Jets:
LT looks like a steal.
Revis’ play did not drop off.
Minuses: Sanchez played terrible. Santonio Holmes is not going to help out the Jets if Sanchez continues to play this poorly.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:22 AM
Eagles are division contenders (everyone is in the NFC East). They lost at home.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:22 AM
Well they werent helped much by their coach who decided to continually leave them singled up with absolutely no help.
Its only one game, everybody poops.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:22 AM
Didn’t know this happened. That sucks.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:22 AM
Basically what I said in the Roundup:
* Sanchez looked for the checkdown on almost every play and rarely let the receivers’ routes develop.
* The playcalling was conservative (Schottenheimer)
* The Ravens D is really good and really angry
September 14th, 2010 at 10:22 AM
So from what I’ve read, the Jets defense will keep them in many games this year, but their offense will prevent them from winning some of those key games.
How different would this game have been if Baltimore didn’t fumble on it’s first two possessions?
September 14th, 2010 at 10:22 AM
No denial! Proud of you, TBL.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:22 AM
i loved the look on Rex Ryan face when he was walking off the field. you know he wanted to beat the Ravens so bad. mouth was shut
September 14th, 2010 at 10:22 AM
put this late into roundup, wanted more play:
how about this? preseason proves itself to be so unnecessary. the quality of play in week 1 makes preseason silly–the fuck were these guys doing? figger out who you should cut from practice not preseason games.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:22 AM
Hopefully this will shut rex up
September 14th, 2010 at 10:22 AM
Brian Schottenheimer is frighted of his quarterback and probably justifiably so but if things are really that bad where they won’t call anything that requires the QB to make a play might as well start Brunell
Can we get a video from Hard Knocks with Rex talking about how unstoppable they’d be on offense? They’re just as shitty as they were last year
September 14th, 2010 at 10:23 AM
Welker may set the single game receptions mark.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:23 AM
So from what I’ve read, the Jets defense will keep them in many games this year, but their offense will prevent them from winning some of those key games.
Steve Young had a great point on this last night
September 14th, 2010 at 10:23 AM
And maybe just run a damn play instead of having Sanchez play Peyton at the line with all the shifts and calls and audibles. He aint there yet.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:23 AM
I really wish halfway through the fourth quarter he would’ve ripped his shirt open to reveal a Ravens jersey underneath.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:23 AM
i disagree. if their best back, due to butterfingers is LDT, and their QB can’t throw for more than 7 yards per attempt teams won’t have to worry about any other play. i’m sure they could find ways to stack 7-8 in the box and still contain the QB’s WR options.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:24 AM
he was called for running into the kicker (questionable), which ultimately led to the Ravens’ only touchdown.
that one is one the special teams coach. Yes questionable, but hurdling people is actually against the rules I’m pretty sure. So is using another player as a springboard (in this case, catapult). He’ll get a flag on that next block attempt.
The call was terrible though, about the foot not coming down.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:24 AM
Again, I am blaming the coordinator way before I blame Sanchise for this game. Fucking Brian needs to get in the fucking film room this week and lock himself in there.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:24 AM
which is why home/road was included.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:24 AM
Jets secondary matches up better with the Pats receivers than they did against the Ravens. Revis is on Moss. And Welker while being a very good receiver is not going to abuse Wilson and Cromartie the way that Boldin did last night.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:24 AM
I love Rex Ryan, but you can blame this squarely on him. Team discipline is a direct reflection of your head coach. Rex should be on his team all day today. I hope there’s some kind of punitive measures he’s got dialed up for all the guys that were guilty of penalties.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:25 AM
Give me ten bucks on the rancor.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:25 AM
i probably would have opened with that EVEN if the Jets had won on a FG at the end.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:25 AM
The technical term is “leaping” and is one of my favorite penalties ever. I’ll always be grateful for it.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:25 AM
No one is going to work the Jets this year because that defense will be nasty. They’ll be in every game because of it.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:25 AM
Joe Flacco has the pocket presence of a retarded midget.
Jets D is legit with or w/o Kris Jenkins. 6-4, 360 is a big mofo.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:25 AM
GOD DAMNIT HARBAUGH
September 14th, 2010 at 10:25 AM
with all the shifts and calls and audibles
that was all laughable.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:25 AM
Gary Crowton and Jordan Jefferson think the Jets offense is pathetic.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:25 AM
Oh, he’ll abuse them. It will just be a different type of abuse.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:25 AM
Hopefully not. His entertainment value is one of his best parts.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:26 AM
Is there a line on Jets/Pats yet? Hammer the Pats.
RE: Sanchez. In this day and age, you just can’t have a passing offense geared around the “no turnovers” mantra at the expense of throwing the ball past 12 yards and expect to win the majority of your games.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:26 AM
To be fair Derrick Mason is 60 years old…why wasn’t he on Boldin? Thought they moved him around to cover the other team’s #1
September 14th, 2010 at 10:26 AM
You can’t be both the boss and at the same time try to be everyone’s best friend. It never works.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:26 AM
He did look terrible, though. It was a failure at every level.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:26 AM
* The Ravens are Super Bowl contenders (who were missing arguably their best defensive player, Ed Reed)
That’s a POSITIVE? So what happens IF you meet the Ravens in the playoffs?
/Fairness helmet on:
- The Jets looked no better than Dallas, Indy, Minny, Frisco or several other expected playoff contenders. May just be a Week 1 virus.
- The Ravens had an equally awful game. At times it felt as if it was a race as to who’d suck more: Sanchez or Flacco.
- For as bad as the Jets played, they only gave up 10 points.
/Fairness helmet off
The Jets and their fans spent the last 8 months trying to convince themselves, each other and the world that lucking into the playoffs (thanks to the Colts not being interested) and then beating two perennial postseason chokers in Cincy and Whale’s Vagina meant that they were ready for primetime.
There’s a reason the record last season was 9-7. There’s a reason Tomlinson and Cromartie were available. There’s a reason why teams like the Colts and Saints don’t spend all offseason talking shit.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:26 AM
Naw, Belichick won’t wait to go after Wilson or Cro next week. Plus, their dbs looked pretty jacked and fearless vs the Bengals early last week. Moss has said he geared his whole offseason to trying to beat Revis this year.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:27 AM
forgot to mention multiple costly drops by Cotchery.
can’t see the Ravens being SB contenders. Flacco doesn’t appear to have turned the corner. he made some horific throws last night.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:27 AM
“Come on, this is my job! Seriously people!”
September 14th, 2010 at 10:27 AM
John Harbaugh obviously employed the Marv Levy Football Follies offense for the most of the night.
/Let’s throw the six-sixty-six down the middle of the fucking field and hope for a pass interference
September 14th, 2010 at 10:27 AM
Nothing. Books waiting for word on Jenkins, I’m sure.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:27 AM
Colts/Bucs monday night game right?
Sorry, early bird gets the worm.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:28 AM
two years ago the raven’s defense blew it against the pats with stupid penalties. if i recall that was their biggest fault while Rex Ryan was the d-coordinator for years.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:28 AM
Cromartie lecturing the team on pulling out?
September 14th, 2010 at 10:28 AM
.
The biggest difference next week is that it will be Tom Brady’s hair reading the defense, and not Joe Flacco’s eyebrows.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:28 AM
We kept ranting all summer about chemistry problems … how much of that has to do with 14 penalties?
Per the graphic last night the Jets were the most penalized team in the NFL last year. Some of it relates the aggressiveness of their scheme but instilling team discipline is on the coaches.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:29 AM
on the field problems, off the field problems. what a day for the J-E-T-S organization
September 14th, 2010 at 10:29 AM
He’s a Sarkisian disciple. Be ready for the same from Jake Locker.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:29 AM
Yep, it took away another one of Mike Vanderjagt’s crucial, last-second missed kicks. He then promptly banged the second kick off the right upright, although somehow by the grace of Sanchez it deflected left and through.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:30 AM
Hernandez and Gronkowski should have a big day though.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:30 AM
Joe Flacco’s eyebrows much like Krusty the Klown and that NHL coach that won a Stanley Cup without being able to read are all proud spokesmen for adult illiteracy.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:30 AM
All of this Ravens-SB talk is laughable. Are they good? Yes. But I wouldn’t put them as a Super Bowl “contender.”
BOOM.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:30 AM
You are willing to sacrifice penalty yardage to get your guys to play like their pants are on fire. Especially if you’re Rex Ryan.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:30 AM
This doesn’t make any sense.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:30 AM
No clue. Only guess is that Boldin and TJ are bigger possession receivers and the Jets figured Mason to be the deep threat?
I guess the real test will be next week when he matches up with Moss.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:30 AM
Per Peter King: Those PI poenalties were coming. I’m probably the only one who feels this way , but 2 or 3 of them were fucking stupid. My bigger problem is the illegal shifts and the false fucking starts. Stop making the way the team lines up so fucking intricate.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:30 AM
/truth
but the Jets defense did its job. sanchez and schottenheimer are a bad mix.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:30 AM
Sanchise played petrified last night. Afraid to make a mistake. Afraid to get hit. His progresssions were 1. first receiver, 2. check down. Always.
The offensive game plan was bad as well. Too much unnecessary complicated pre-snap motion.
The Ravens kept the Jets in the game with dumb plays and dumb turnovers as well. (Flacco isn’t exactly a Football Mensa either). If the Jets continue to leave their other corners in 1v1 situations without any over the top help, it will be a long year of PI and Holding penalties plus big plays by WR’s.
Teams will adjust to the Jets blitzing style. Ryan is smart enough defensively to adjust, but the question is whether his stubbornness will allow him to.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:32 AM
pats have more viable weapons to throw to which would create more fast read options to counter the blitz, which the jets currently displayed as their only weapon. they could get burned easily and repeatedly. did they even get to the QB with just the front 4 rushing?
September 14th, 2010 at 10:32 AM
It’s week 1.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:32 AM
To be fair Derrick Mason is 60 years old…why wasn’t he on Boldin? Thought they moved him around to cover the other team’s #1
my guess is that the Jets assumed Boldin wouldn’t have the chemistry that Mason has in that offense and that Mason would be running most of the short, timing routes on 3rd downs.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:33 AM
PK was spot-on in his foreshadowing of last night’s game: That crew is NOTORIOUS for PIs. They lived up to the reputation last night. A couple of those were meh.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:33 AM
it’s week 1 of his 3rd season and he hasn’t really gotten much better since he was a rook.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:33 AM
This doesn’t make any sense.
it’s wrong. Those guy run their routes and if they see zero coverage like last night, they’ll just get up the field. Cromartie can’t ballhawk without safety help and his game is ballhawking and risk taking. The Boise kid, forget it. He’s a step slow so far.
Luckily, Revis shut Mason down. Otherwise, Mason would have dropped several passes for the Ravens.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:33 AM
Trying to a) confuse the Ravens and b) help Sanchez get a read on what the defense is doing. That was hardly the problem with the gameplan.
Sanchez looked like he was playing scared because the gameplan they practiced and studied all week was built for Trent Dilfer.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:33 AM
You are willing to sacrifice penalty yardage to get your guys to play like their pants are on fire. Especially if you’re Rex Ryan.
I agree to a point. Some of the PI penalties (a couple were wishy washy) are the result of leaving the CB on an island. But the illegal shifts, false start, etc.?
September 14th, 2010 at 10:34 AM
Can’t believe some teams consider Brian Schottenheimer a head coaching candidate. And how long until the Jets give Vinny Testaverde a call?
September 14th, 2010 at 10:34 AM
I wish they had tried throwing Revis’ way more. Doesnt get a lot of camera time when theyre throwing to the other side of the field, but I swear he holds on almost every play.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:34 AM
Flacco is the King of staring down one guy. Last night he took turns staring at Housh and Mason. If that guy is covered, he checks down immediately too.
And, as bad as Flacco still is, Sanchise hopes to become as good as Flacco by the end of the season.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:34 AM
two years ago the raven’s defense blew it against the pats with stupid penalties. if i recall that was their biggest fault while Rex Ryan was the d-coordinator for years.
That was the game that could have ended the perfect regular season. If I recall, Rex took a timeout while his defense was stopping the Pats.
The offensive game plan was bad as well. Too much unnecessary complicated pre-snap motion.
Which I don’t get. Last year they had a simple game plan for Sanchez because he was a rookie. Seems like this year, they took off the training wheels…and he went face first into the pavement!
September 14th, 2010 at 10:35 AM
Problem is, a lot of it was coming out in a formation and then switching to something completely different. That cost them a big completion in the 1st half due to an illegal shift on Braylon.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:35 AM
I also take issue with this. The Ravens WRs are improved, but hardly top 5 in the NFL. Who is their deep threat? Todd Heap?
I’d have the following teams ranked well ahead of them: Indy, Green Bay, Dallas, NY Giants, Houston, New England, Arizona, and maybe Pittsburgh and Atlanta.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:35 AM
sanchez looked like he was playing scared because he’s only got barely two full seasons of starting at a high football level under his belt and has outlandish expectations heaped on him.
and lil’ schotty ain’t helping him by cluttering his brain with all those pointless motions and audibles.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:35 AM
Let’s reserve judgment until we can see if he develops a chemistry with Boldin. 7 catches for 100+ last night is a pretty good start. He did play one of the league’s top defenses last night, too.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:36 AM
Listening to Cowherd apologize for the Jets while reading this post is endlessly entertaining. He says “Sanchize checked it down! That’s what you do against the Ravens.” No, you attack their weak secondary. Playing Checkdown Charlie plays to their strength.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:36 AM
So long as the Jets employ the defensive scheme they do, they’re going to rack up the PI penalties. Byproduct of leaving WR’s singled up so often. And Revis, hopefully, will rack up the illegal contact penalties by the bushel. The guy’s a great player, but he’s mean mugging like a mofo out on his island. Unless the league wants to start letting all corners get away with that, in which case I’d be fine with it.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:36 AM
how much is on the offensive coordinator when the QB is too afraid to execute the play as it was designed? maybe if sanchez had legs to run and make something up, but constantly ignoring the middle and deep passes and checking down to the short safe passes isn’t how a QB should be playing.
but he’s extremely inexperienced with only 1 season of college ball and 1 season of pro ball under his belt.
jets have a way to go with sanchez.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:36 AM
So all of the false starts and 2 men in motion penalties weren’t a problem? That was due to that pre-snap movement. It was enough to drive Gruden nuts last night.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:37 AM
when santonio comes back, i’d put the jets on that list too.
but no way does PIT and the falcons have better WR’s than baltimore. that’s foolish. and cincy needs to be on that list too.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:37 AM
but I swear he holds on almost every play
he sure does. he got called on one last night
September 14th, 2010 at 10:37 AM
Exactly, funny how that talk about their secondary has completely disappeared.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:37 AM
It’s week 1.
i’m aware of that, but since we’re all being so critical today…
the near TD pass to Heap up the seam was the best pass Flacco threw all game. he missed and/or was bailed out on phantom penalites most of the time.
just saying, he doesn’t look SB worthy.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:37 AM
If anything, they’re trying to eliminate it.
/see Pats/Colts circa 2003
September 14th, 2010 at 10:38 AM
I’d have the following teams ranked well ahead of them: Indy, Green Bay, Dallas, NY Giants, Houston, New England, Arizona, and maybe Pittsburgh and Atlanta.
The New Orleans Saints want to know where they at.
Listening to Cowherd apologize for the Jets while reading this post is endlessly entertaining.
That’s gotta be hilarious.
The bandwagon has got to be emptying faster than we think. Wonder how many Green NY jerseys will get shoved into closets for the Blue NY jerseys.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:38 AM
agreed…but the jets D was ripe for giving up big plays and they never happened because of flacco miscues.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:38 AM
Sucks for them, since they’re built to win today.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:38 AM
It’s fucking week 1 people! I watched a ton of football over the weekend and hardly anyone looked sharp. Can you imagine how sloppy an bad the first couple games will be if they add two more games to the regular season schedule?
Oh and yeah the Jets are going to miss Thomas Jones this year.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:38 AM
Revis mean mugs like crazy, but he’s got a ways to go to reach Ty Law levels of criminality.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:39 AM
I hope he has a semi competent NFL analyst on for a guest today so he can get put in his place..
September 14th, 2010 at 10:39 AM
I didn’t realize Cro struggles so much getting out of breaks. No quicker WR than Welker — he will annihilate Cro next week.
/close game though
September 14th, 2010 at 10:39 AM
None, I don’t think chemistry had to do with bad mistakes on the field.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:39 AM
Jets D is good enough to win a Super Bowl. However, their offense makes the Dilfer 2000 Ravens offense look like the Greatest Show On Turf. Good luck Rex…
…And Santonio thought he had it bad in Pittsburgh’s offense. He’s going to react real well to The Sanchise bouncing throws his way starting in week 5.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:40 AM
Sanchez’s play last night brought back nightmares of Joey Harrington in a Lions uniform.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:40 AM
Maybe he’ll bring Trent Dilfer in studio so he can blow him.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:40 AM
/fixed for Jersey Shore’d
September 14th, 2010 at 10:40 AM
The Packers were sloppy as hell but still scored 27 points because they’re good…there was no reason to assume the Jets would be good on offense before the game and there’s no reason now
September 14th, 2010 at 10:40 AM
OPTIMIST: That was probably a top five receiving corps in the league.
Maybe, but there’s no way they can achieve that with Flacco under center. Not sure why people are picking Ravens (or the Jets for that matter) to come out of the AFC with such inconsistency at QB.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:41 AM
Jets should have gotten a kurt warner type while sanchez learned the pro game. but hindsight is 20/20 i guess.
i give sanchez 2 more years before he gets the boot if he only makes marginal strides.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:41 AM
Jets D is awesome. Ravens D is awesome. Mark Sanchez sucks. Braylon Edwards sucks. Dustin Keller is stupid.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:41 AM
the jets offense would be pretty fucking good with a better QB.
sanchez might be that guy down the line, but part of me thinks brunell would captain the offense better at this point in time.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:41 AM
Expected.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:41 AM
agreed…but the jets D was ripe for giving up big plays and they never happened because of flacco miscues.
he threw some bad balls, and had some underthrows that would have been touchdowns. Too much air underneath too many passes.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:41 AM
I was at a December game at Lambeau against them in 2004 where Joey managed a 5-22 effort…didn’t think that was possible
September 14th, 2010 at 10:42 AM
It’s fucking week 1 people! I watched a ton of football over the weekend and hardly anyone looked sharp. Can you imagine how sloppy an bad the first couple games will be if they add two more games to the regular season schedule?
Well, when you tell everyone that your goal is to…ahem…
“LEAD THE LEAGUE IN FUCKING WINS”
…and you come out and lay that turd on national TV, you gonna get called out.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:42 AM
Patriots are going to destroy the Jets next weekend. Belicheck is going to want to put them in their place because of all the hype they are getting. It doesnt matter how good Revis is, he is going to let Brady loose.
Plus the Jets are considered The Patriots biggest opponents for the division title, so he is going to make sure his team is ready so they can make them 0-2.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:42 AM
Maybe, but there’s no way they can achieve that with Flacco under center
Both Flacco and Matt Ryan looked bad this week. Have to wait a couple weeks to see how much related to facing the Jets/Steelers.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:43 AM
yea, but he’s clearly elite.
/john clayton
September 14th, 2010 at 10:43 AM
their D may be the best in the league, but even the best probably average giving up at least 14ppg…can their offense be counted on to score more than that?
September 14th, 2010 at 10:43 AM
PK and John Lynch are his NFL guests today. So we’ll see….
I want Jaws on there. He saw it all last night.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:43 AM
Oops, forgot to add that Joe Flacco is also dogshit.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:43 AM
I like this dude.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:43 AM
Doesn’t he just stack his show with guests and callers who agree with him or that he could easily make look bad?
September 14th, 2010 at 10:44 AM
Plus the Jets are considered The Patriots biggest opponents for the division title
I thought the Dolphins were more of a threat to the Pats than the Jets.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:44 AM
Only part of the game I saw.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:44 AM
Philosophy major at Tennessee. WTF?
September 14th, 2010 at 10:44 AM
Butters – I’d like to introduce you to Derek Anderson.
/pssssh. You didn’t think it was possible.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:44 AM
going to let brady loose?
revis on moss…and all that’s left is welker’s underneath routes and bubble screens. the pats don’t exactly run a complex passing offense. if any team can stop it, it’s the jets.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:44 AM
I should add Cincy and New Orleans. Forgot about them.
Atlanta is at least equal to the Ravens, IMO. Roddy White > Boldin, and Harry Douglas + Tony G are solid enough. I don’t think TJ Housh has too much left.
I can live with taking Pittsburgh off, I just expect Mike Wallace to become a stud this year. But he has to do it first.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:45 AM
No offense where Braylon Edwards is your number 1 receiving option will ever be any fucking good…on the plus side, he’ll make Santonio look like Jerry Rice when he gets back.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:45 AM
Please don’t remind me. The Sad thing is that Joey Harrington had the highest QB winning percentage of the Millen Era.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:45 AM
I want Jaws on there. He saw it all last night.
This. Jaws was ripping the Jet offense in the second half.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:45 AM
That’s retarded.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:45 AM
He was holding him back on those 600 passing attempts in 2007.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:45 AM
Jersey, the invites to watch that game are going out in todays mail.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:46 AM
but part of me thinks brunell would captain the offense better at this point in time.
my roommate and i were laughing about this last night. Brunell mentor’d Jason Campbell who was a checkdown guy and now is doing the same to Sanchez. his years as a Redskin were some of the most frusterating seasons ever for me.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:46 AM
We getting a Chargers/Chiefs post, too? Otherwise, I’ll just start talkin’ about it here. I know we covered some of it in the roundup but I only saw that game.
More meaningful week 1 win: Chiefs or Texans?
/Chiefs cost me survivor pool so I’m leaning them
//Texans also were expected to be competent, Chiefs not so much
September 14th, 2010 at 10:46 AM
Ha! I might not want to be around people for that game.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:47 AM
Are we sure he still has a pulse?
September 14th, 2010 at 10:47 AM
Well, he did go to Purdue.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:47 AM
Dustin Keller is stupid.
Are we sure he still has a pulse?
by the end of the year, TBL expects him to be a top 10 tight end in this league.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:48 AM
Not so sure about that. Now that the Pats have a pair of halfway decent TEs they were running some new looks on Sunday.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:48 AM
I still remember during Harrington’s bowl game (think it was Rose Bowl) they kept showing those shots of him playing the piano coming back and going to commercial break.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:48 AM
TBL what you really need to do is put out the Power Rankings. now THAT’s something I wanna see.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:49 AM
I don’t understand ripping Keller for the last play. He had to stretch toward the sideline to make the catch while his momentum took him straight to the sideline. Not sure what else he was going to do with that pass???
September 14th, 2010 at 10:49 AM
Seattle
September 14th, 2010 at 10:49 AM
listening to Jaws last night was interesting. at first he was trying to build sanchez up about how he had control of the offense, how he had matured. then he started losing his shit about how he threw it right to the check down every time.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:49 AM
that is true. but the jets still matchup well with the pats.
but i’d like to thank the pats for blowing out the faggy bengals again. my sincerest gratitude.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:49 AM
Annnnnnnnnnnd, you’re out of the will again. I’m taking your room, too. You get the basement now.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:49 AM
i’d be more concerned about Shonn Green’s body language and fumblitis than LT. that dude looked like a beat puppy in the 3rd qtr last night.
Cassel was terrible last night as well.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:49 AM
Easy, Texans…until Matt Cassel proves to be worth two shits I’m not viewing last night as being anything more than what Sanders said, a division opponent giving the better team fits at home
September 14th, 2010 at 10:49 AM
my roommate and i were laughing about this last night. Brunell mentor’d Jason Campbell who was a checkdown guy and now is doing the same to Sanchez.
If you get a chance watch some of Brunell’s games with the Jags before he hurt his knee (think it was 1996) and got old. The man could ball.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:50 AM
Maybe, but you know Billy Boy, when he wants to make someone looks bad, he can usually find a way. Plus it’s not like he’s going to be scared of Sanchez.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:50 AM
Someone else, please. I don’t have enough numbers in the W column to respond to this.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:50 AM
Did you watch any of the Pats game on Sunday?
September 14th, 2010 at 10:51 AM
Listening to Tirico was even better. “This Jets offense is… bad.”
September 14th, 2010 at 10:51 AM
sorry jets fans, yall aint doing shit this year. great d (that can be passed on), but you will not win with your QB throwing for 70 yards. he has done nothing to suggest he will get any better.
probably already been said, but late to the post.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:51 AM
Yeah, they weren’t on Hard Knocks and they hardly ever talk about them on WFAN.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:52 AM
Run the route 1 yard deeper?
September 14th, 2010 at 10:52 AM
Chiefs cost me survivor pool
you’re a fucking idiot for taking the Chiefs to lose at Arrowhead in there season opener.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:52 AM
This. Texans win wasn’t unexpected since they’d choked a couple away. Chiefs was surprising, but the Chargers have some O issues and the weather was nasty last night.
The Seahawk win was an ass kicking that no one saw coming. There were whispers of Petey being a disaster in Rain Town before the season started. And, in that division, the Seahawks have a great chance to stun most and make the playoffs if they play decent.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:52 AM
I did CJ. I don’t think anybody saw how good they looked on Sunday. But remember, everyone here secretly hates Wes Welker.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:52 AM
I don’t understand ripping Keller for the last play. He had to stretch toward the sideline to make the catch while his momentum took him straight to the sideline. Not sure what else he was going to do with that pass???
dude had no momentum because his brains were scrambled. He could have easily stopped well inbounds and gotten the first down.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:52 AM
I’m torn. Love Tommy and The Bill but loathe Patriots fans. I guess I’ll root for a tie.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:52 AM
This has to be the quickest building thread in the history of TBL
//not shocked
September 14th, 2010 at 10:53 AM
that’s not exactly a correct assumption. the pats can win without targeting moss and their new TE options, plus Tate and Edleman (if he lines up), would create some pretty decent short route options to counter the blitz. if the jets can’t get to brady by rushing 4, constantly blitzhing 2-3 LB’s will make their d less effective through the course of the game.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:53 AM
They actually showed some diversity in the passing game on Sunday. A lot of it is still Welker underneath and Moss deep once in awhile, but there were some different formations and now they have good catching tight ends to throw in there. Pats have their work cut out for them.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:53 AM
*their
September 14th, 2010 at 10:53 AM
No dipshit, their starting QB is a bigger joke than Sanchez.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:53 AM
i watched the entire thing (it was glorious). but the jets aren’t just going to sit there and let brady pick them apart like the faggy bengals did.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:53 AM
He was almost there when Favre was his QB.
/just sayin’
September 14th, 2010 at 10:53 AM
Didn’t the Dowfeens beat the Jets twice last year?
September 14th, 2010 at 10:53 AM
he has done nothing to suggest he will get any better.
except three solid playoff victories.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:54 AM
Ha. How anyone can hate Wes Welker is beyond me. He’s so dreamy, and short.
But anyway I am seriously digging the tight ends, Hernandez and Gronk are going to surprise a lot this year.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:54 AM
Yeah, they weren’t on Hard Knocks and they hardly ever talk about them on WFAN.
Hahaha
September 14th, 2010 at 10:54 AM
I’m looking for consistency from them until I get the tight butt over them. They looked great at times last year, really bad at others. Now, if they come out and smoke the Jets this week and the Colts either lose to the Giants or look shitty in winning, we’re in trouble, bubble.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:55 AM
12 out of 25 throws went to RB’s or TE’s. Don’t listen to the haters.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:55 AM
And still finished third in the division.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:55 AM
Not so sure about that. Now that the Pats have a pair of halfway decent TEs they were running some new looks on Sunday.
Having Welker and the two rookie TEs lined up wide….. that could be some scary shit….
September 14th, 2010 at 10:55 AM
Jet fans are going to equate their team outlook to their QB’s playing style. Go from looking to win the Super Bowl, to checking down and hoping for a playoff berth.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:55 AM
I’m pretty sure that the pass was thrown before he’d made the break. He can’t will the ball to get closer to him to cut up field.
Dude also got lambasted the play earlier by Ray Murda, so if he got caught not thinking, it would be tough to criticize him.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:55 AM
Oh my, this is inaccurate…Henne was better across the board last season, too bad their final two opponents in the season played to win
September 14th, 2010 at 10:55 AM
Why don’t you just get it over with, pull your trigger, and come back after you’re done.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:55 AM
I wanna see Belichick find a way to get Moss one-on-one with Kyle Wilson.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:56 AM
pats fans…the pats ran the same fucking bubble screen six times with success against the bengals because the faggy bengals weren’t smart enough to switch to man coverage.
that shit won’t fly against the jets. even comparing the jets and faggy bengals’ d’s is foolish because they’re almost completely opposite in terms of philosophies. the way to matchup against the pats is with man coverage and getting to the QB, something the jets do well. the faggy bengals just sit back in lame zones and brady’s just going to pwn them.
i def don’t see this as a blowout, but would love to be proved wrong because fuck sanchez.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:56 AM
But anyway I am seriously digging the tight ends, Hernandez and Gronk are going to surprise a lot this year.
they should be open a lot on Sunday.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:56 AM
Two. Settle down pimpin. Let me handle this. I know the game… analyst.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:56 AM
Henne > Sanchez
September 14th, 2010 at 10:56 AM
More meaningful week 1 win: Chiefs or Texans?
Chiefs and Seahawks. They’re both in winnable divisions and they both beat the expected division winner. Texans still gotta face Tennessee and the Colts are unlikely to just give up.
I thought the Dolphins were more of a threat to the Pats than the Jets.
That’s retarded.
The Dolphins were neck-and-neck with the Jets last season until they hit a tough run of games. Meanwhile the Jets got the gimmes. Switch that around and we’re not talking about the Jets all summer long.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:57 AM
They won like 4 games last year. Rivers hasn’t lost to the Chiefs in 2 and a half years. I’d say it was a risk picking a divisional team to lose on the road, but not ‘fucking stupid’. Betting on them to cover was the stupid thing. Always take home dogs.
Even my teaser didn’t survive last night though.
Because he plays for the New England Red Sawks football team.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:57 AM
sorry 2. his best game was against the Colts though.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:57 AM
Jets’ safeties are teh suck.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:58 AM
This may be Duckworth’d, but Florida RB Chris Rainey was arrested and charged with stalking.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:58 AM
Everyone > Henne
September 14th, 2010 at 10:58 AM
False. Bengals. Had a good first half against the Colts, was miserable in the second half.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:58 AM
From the Rainey story:
According to Gainesville Police, Rainey sent a woman he dated on and off the last three years a text message that read, “Time to die,” after leaving her home Monday night.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:58 AM
Let’s put it like this. The Pats offense is A MILLION times better than the Ravens o. And the Pats d looked pretty good until Bill relaxed on the throttle. I am expecting no relaxing Sunday.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:59 AM
Too much pomade is fuxin with your mind, playa. I’d take Henne all day over Coconut Sanchez.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:59 AM
Haha.
September 14th, 2010 at 10:59 AM
Texans still gotta face Tennessee and the Colts are unlikely to just give up.
I am realistic in the belief that the Jags are the 4th best team in the AFC South but they will be a tough out in divisional games this year.
September 14th, 2010 at 11:00 AM
correct, but if they can only get to the QB by blitzing and, the likelyhood the jenkins won’t play, limits the chance they can get there just by rushing the front 4, which will be required if the pats spread it out. blitzing LB’s and nickelbacks when an offense is spread out won’t be very effective, it will be predictable.
and what happens in the NFL when you become predictable?
September 14th, 2010 at 11:00 AM
You can’t compare the Henne and Sanchez. Henne started way more games in college.
September 14th, 2010 at 11:00 AM
his TEs always play well.
September 14th, 2010 at 11:00 AM
Everyone > Henne
Brown/Williams > Greene/Tomlinson
September 14th, 2010 at 11:00 AM
well Greene did play pretty awesome against Cincy. and did get hurt against the Colts. So I’ll go with the Colts game.
September 14th, 2010 at 11:01 AM
Alex Smith is still an NFL starting QB
September 14th, 2010 at 11:01 AM
oh yeah. they aren’t expected to do shit in coverage.
September 14th, 2010 at 11:02 AM
Former Gator Erin Andrews has to be so torn on this one.
September 14th, 2010 at 11:02 AM
Waiting for Brodney Pool to come back. But Heap just abused the safeties last night. Fuck.
September 14th, 2010 at 11:03 AM
0-4.
i wasn’t impressed with NE’s OL. and going 0 coverage allows extra blitzers to be brought in. i think the jets match up extremely well with the pats’ O, but still think the pats win. just not in blowout fashion.
September 14th, 2010 at 11:03 AM
That’s not fair. Ray Lewis hit him so hard that he couldn’t count to 10.
September 14th, 2010 at 11:04 AM
This. If the Jets are sending LBs, it creates mismatches in the coverage that Brady can exploit in ways that Flacco can’t. If the Jets get pressure with their front 4, then the Pats are in trouble.
September 14th, 2010 at 11:04 AM
I am realistic in the belief that the Jags are the 4th best team in the AFC South but they will be a tough out in divisional games this year.
Del Rio will be fighting for his job all season long. And they can take a win from any team in that division.
September 14th, 2010 at 11:04 AM
Looking more forward to Fins/Jets than I am the Pats beatdown next week.
September 14th, 2010 at 11:05 AM
i wouldn’t expect an offensive blowout, but definitely not a 10-9 game. probably a 10 point spread at the most. i could see a total of 4 picks for the entire game, each side getting at least one.
September 14th, 2010 at 11:05 AM
Can you expound on this? Brady was touched, and I mean grazed, 1-2 times this week.
September 14th, 2010 at 11:06 AM
i wasn’t impressed with NE’s OL. and going 0 coverage allows extra blitzers to be brought in. i think the jets match up extremely well with the pats’ O, but still think the pats win. just not in blowout fashion.
I expect the Jets offense to give up as many points as they score.
September 14th, 2010 at 11:07 AM
What were the fines for such a dastardly deed?
September 14th, 2010 at 11:07 AM
that NE protection was ridiculous.
September 14th, 2010 at 11:08 AM
Can you expound on this?
he can’t without bullshitting. They can’t run it, and they don’t really care.
September 14th, 2010 at 11:08 AM
A public stoning of course
September 14th, 2010 at 11:08 AM
Not enough, that’s for damn sure.
September 14th, 2010 at 11:09 AM
the faggy bengals don’t have a pass rush to begin with, but even then, there were some holding calls missed and they haven’t been especially good in the past two years, so im relying on historical precedence.
September 14th, 2010 at 11:10 AM
Oh this is fantastic. QB Controversy!
September 14th, 2010 at 11:12 AM
It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse.
September 14th, 2010 at 11:14 AM
the faggy bengals don’t have a pass rush to begin with, but even then, there were some holding calls missed and they haven’t been especially good in the past two years, so im relying on historical precedence.
you sound like a crazy person defending himself in a trespassing trial.
September 14th, 2010 at 11:14 AM
It absolutely will not stop. Ever! Until you are dead.
Can you stop it?
I dunno. With these weapons? I dunno.
September 14th, 2010 at 11:16 AM
there are trials for tresspassing?
September 14th, 2010 at 11:17 AM
I saw a lot of movies I wasn’t supposed to as a kid, and that one line still sticks with me. I remember lying in bed with that line ringing in my head.
September 14th, 2010 at 11:17 AM
Everyone > Henne
Alex Smith is still an NFL starting QB
Unfortunately this is true.
September 14th, 2010 at 11:18 AM
Linda Hamilton’s unexpectedly large rack always stuck with me.
September 14th, 2010 at 11:19 AM
there are trials for tresspassing?
only when a crazy guy asks for one, so he’ll have a stage for his manifesto.
September 14th, 2010 at 11:20 AM
The fact that she was freakishly ripped stuck with me
September 14th, 2010 at 11:20 AM
dirt…seriously tho, am i inaccurate? the bengals don’t have a pass rush, they sat in zone the entire time even when it was obvious the pats were running a WR screen that they ran a ton on sunday and didn’t really try much downfield. they didn’t really run the ball well either, so all i have to rely on is shit from last year and the year before that features pretty much the same crew.
September 14th, 2010 at 11:26 AM
dirt…seriously tho, am i inaccurate?
no, but your original thing was about how you watched the whole game, and the O line looked unimpressive and the Jets would get after them. Then, when pressed, you said that the bengals suck and are faggots, and that the Pats O line hasn’t been good for the past two years.
I believe you watched the game. I watched some of it, but it was blowout city, and I was watching Matt Moore die against New York.
It’s just your hardline position didn’t match your wonky reasoning, and you were therefore susceptible to the business.
They aren’t going to run it this week either. They’ll barely try.
September 14th, 2010 at 11:27 AM
except three solid playoff victories.
that he didnt have a whole hell of a lot to do with.
September 14th, 2010 at 11:29 AM
There is still Jake Delhomme and Josh Freeman.
September 14th, 2010 at 11:33 AM
dirt…of course i insinuated that the bengals are gay…they are. but there were a bunch of missed holding calls, especially on vollmer. but im not sure what’s so impressive about not facing a pass rush and basically having the defense give you quick passes like the bengals did.
they definitely have a stigma of not dealing with blitzes from a multiple front, and facing four average pass rushers without much variety in terms of stunting and blitzing isn’t going to alleviate that.
and my hardline position is basically hating on the bengals and not much on the pats. i think the jets matchup better with the pats, not because of pass rush or anything, but because of their coverage.
September 14th, 2010 at 11:39 AM
but there were a bunch of missed holding calls, especially on vollmer.
as I said, I barely watched. I didn’t even know this guy played. I thought Light was still starting at LT.
September 14th, 2010 at 11:50 AM
You can’t underestimate the loss of Holmes. Dude has a TD rec against us in 7 straight games. Jets offense like the Ravens’ will get better. But the Ravens offense has way more upside. Can’t call us the favorites in the AFC until we can beat the Colts or the Titans/Texans show that the Colts are no longer the best in the AFC south. Our best CB Webb will return next week but the offense won’t click until RT Gaither returns. That not our secondary, is our biggest weakness at the moment. And the Jets will beat NE on Sun.
September 14th, 2010 at 12:21 PM
I see the fact that you haven’t beaten Roethlisberger since 2006 seems to not matter.
September 14th, 2010 at 2:57 PM
I didn’t think to mention a team that missed the playoffs, lost it’s best WR and has a suspended QB as the favorite in the AFC. With that defense and a healthy and productive Cheeseburger they are certainly capable of challenging for the title in a watered down league. But as of now,Indy,Bal,SD and Cincy all belong ahead of them. That can clearly change.