2011 NFL Draft: The Case for Patrick Peterson at #1
NFL Draft March 30th. 2011, 5:15pm
The top of the draft is a muddled picture right now. No true consensus has emerged, though the player I see most often rated among the top three prospects is Patrick Peterson, the cornerback from LSU. He appears at #1 on Mel Kiper’s big board. The primary objection against Peterson at #1 appears to have nothing to do with him, and everything to do with his position. No cornerback has been taken that highly, and there seems to be some thought that you don’t take a cornerback that highly.
The first part of that is a true factual statement, the second is – pardon me – absurd. There are some positions I would not take highly in a NFL draft (I’m looking at you Sebastian Janikowski), but cornerback is not one of them. The NFL is a passing league, and getting a key player at a pass defense position is valuable. This argument that other teams can avoid them is a non-starter for me. Just because my rook doesn’t move as much as my middle pawn doesn’t mean I don’t think it has more strategic value.
Let’s say that, best case scenario, Patrick Peterson is so good that teams don’t throw on him at all. You’ve limited what the other team can do strategically, and you just need to put a competent player on the other side. It’s not an indictment of Asomugha, for example, that the Raiders failed to put a decent player on the other side, it’s an indictment of the organization.
I took a look at the cornerbacks taken in the top 10 of the NFL Draft between 1980-2004. There have been 25 who started their careers at cornerback. Five of them are, or will be soon, in the Pro Football Hall of Fame – Ronnie Lott, Rod Woodson, Deion Sanders, Champ Bailey and Charles Woodson. Several others, like Troy Vincent, Mark Haynes and Terry McDaniel, are a notch below that but were very good for a while. We’ve had busts too, but that’s a decent hit rate.
In fact, when I compare the Top 10 Corners with the non-QB players who were selected with the top overall pick, they compare favorably. Over at pro-football-reference, players are rated by Approximate Value, which assigns a number based on starting seasons, awards, and the quality of the teams. The Top 10 Corners were virtually equal with the First Overalls (excluding QB). Two of thirteen (Bruce Smith and Orlando Pace) are or will be in the Hall of Fame.
Should you have taken Mark Haynes or DE’s Curtis Greer, Bruce Clark or Doug Martin back in 1980, who went right around of him? You might not know who they are, so we’ll come forward (the answer is Haynes, easily, by the way). What about Charles Woodson (4th in 1998) versus Andre Wadsworth (3rd) or Grant Wistrom (6th)?
Okay, but that’s not fair, because I’m just cherry picking some real life examples. So I went through every cornerback in the top 10 over those years, assigned them a Win, Loss, or Tie based on their careers compared to other defensive players also drafted in the top 10 (ties generously went to players within +/- 15 in Approximate Value). The Cornerbacks had a winning record against the Defensive Ends, Defensive Tackles, Linebackers and Safeties, going 42-32-15. Pretty good considering they were on average drafted lower in the Top 10.
I don’t think you draft positions this high, you draft players. If you are a team scouting and you think Patrick Peterson is the top player, you take him. Drafting positions will lead you to do things like reach for an inferior prospect because he is a defensive end, which is why that position ranks lowest among the Top Ten in hit rate.
Given the uncertainty at QB (don’t reach there either), I would take Patrick Peterson if I’m Carolina, and I don’t care if no other cornerback has been taken at that spot. Going by the wisdom of the crowds, and not getting caught up in any nonsense about which positions you must take where, he seems like the best bet to succeed.
[photo via Getty]

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March 30th, 2011 at 5:18 PM
Excellent. Bravo.
March 30th, 2011 at 5:18 PM
#7. The answer we were looking for was #7.
March 30th, 2011 at 5:23 PM
I think some of this depends on if there is going to be a rookie scale or not. Missing on a QB with the way things are now is awful. A franchise is basically fucked for years because of the money tied up in a shitty QB. However if a rookie scale is put in place the risk isn’t nearly as high and taking a gamble on a QB would be less devastating. I would definitely draft Peterson at 1 if there isn’t a change in the rookie scale.
March 30th, 2011 at 5:23 PM
i feel great that i said this a few days ago. defense, special teams
/give me cookie
March 30th, 2011 at 5:24 PM
gp, those two fu manchu discs on their way. needless to say, i’m fired up
March 30th, 2011 at 5:25 PM
I’ve never understood why a player could not be considered worthy of the #1 overall pick…but he’d be great #3. Or even a guy not considered worthy of the top 10, but #15 seems right.
March 30th, 2011 at 5:26 PM
As I said two days ago – any team that has an opportunity to draft Patrick Peterson and does not is making a huge, huge mistake.
The likelihood of a flatter rookie wage scale also makes it MUCH easier to draft a non-QB/LT/DT first overall because it will not kill your cap to take a CB that high anymore.
March 30th, 2011 at 5:26 PM
I want to marry this post except for missing an obvious chance to make fun of Bruce Pickens, one of my all time favorite draft busts.
March 30th, 2011 at 5:31 PM
I’ve never understood why a player could not be considered worthy of the #1 overall pick…but he’d be great #3. Or even a guy not considered worthy of the top 10, but #15 seems right.
I think most consider getting value at a certain spot to be very important. Levi Jones of the Bengals is a good example. He got picked 10th overall. He turned out to be a decent NFL player however the Bengals could have probably drafted him in the 2nd round that year based off where most boards had him. That would make him a good late 1st pick or early 2nd but not a good 10th overall pick. That being said if you think a player is the best available I have no problem where you draft him.
March 30th, 2011 at 5:33 PM
Gotta love the lunchtime quickie. Now to catch up on what I missed here…
March 30th, 2011 at 5:35 PM
Gotta love the lunchtime quickie. Now to catch up on what I missed here…
/goes for high five
//double checks you washed your hands
///high five
March 30th, 2011 at 5:38 PM
Gotta love the lunchtime quickie. Now to catch up on what I missed here…
lunch tim quickie? are you 400 miles off the coast of California or something?
March 30th, 2011 at 5:40 PM
I think most consider getting value at a certain spot to be very important. Levi Jones of the Bengals is a good example. He got picked 10th overall. He turned out to be a decent NFL player however the Bengals could have probably drafted him in the 2nd round that year based off where most boards had him. That would make him a good late 1st pick or early 2nd but not a good 10th overall pick. That being said if you think a player is the best available I have no problem where you draft him.
I’m all for targeting value and having a general sense of when you need to grab a player, but no information is perfect and you truly don’t know what the other 31 teams are thinking. That said:
Identifying talent >>>>>>>>>>> Identifying value
New England would have drafted Tom Brady in the first round if they would have known how good he was going to be.
March 30th, 2011 at 5:41 PM
Took a nice cool shower after, no worries. Brought home sandwiches, then we were sitting on the couch and all of a sudden she climbed on top of me and said, “I think you’re going to be late getting back to work.”
March 30th, 2011 at 5:43 PM
BTW, great post, totally agree. Never understood the rationale of saying X position shouldn’t be drafted that high. If a person can come in and fill a hole and make an immediate impact, draft him.
March 30th, 2011 at 5:43 PM
I’m all for targeting value and having a general sense of when you need to grab a player, but no information is perfect and you truly don’t know what the other 31 teams are thinking. That said:
Identifying talent >>>>>>>>>>> Identifying value
New England would have drafted Tom Brady in the first round if they would have known how good he was going to be.
Oh I agree with this. Like I said if a team has a certain player they feel is the best left they have to draft that guy. Why having a scouting department if you can’t trust them? I do get somewhat pissed when people point how smart a team is when they identify a player in the 6th or 7th round that turns out to be a stud. That team passed on the player just like every other team in the league.
March 30th, 2011 at 5:43 PM
Some beef for lunch, nicely done.
March 30th, 2011 at 5:44 PM
Bungles, can you hear us?? Anyone home??
March 30th, 2011 at 5:44 PM
VezinaRoast–bad ass. Saw your tweet way late the other day. I’m terrible with using the Twitter.
March 30th, 2011 at 5:47 PM
Why having a scouting department if you can’t trust them?
Me fail english? That’s unpossible.
March 30th, 2011 at 5:47 PM
oh, the bengals hear you loud and clear…mike brown just won’t spend the money.
March 30th, 2011 at 5:47 PM
I’ve often wondered about certain drafting philosophies. Like, you always take the tackle higher because it’s a more premium position, harder to find quality and – generally – garners more expensive second contracts. But a guard is less likely to bust and almost guaranteed to be good for a decade, and also less costly to retain, should you wish to do so.
I’m not sure there are any failsafe drafting philosophies. Different teams are built certain ways. Except the Colts. They’re the only ones who draft cheap, undersized spare parts they can plug in when they’re overpaid, undersized first stringers get hurt.
March 30th, 2011 at 5:52 PM
Brought home sandwiches,
and will do so again, i’m guessing
March 30th, 2011 at 5:54 PM
you can move a tackle to guard…but it’s not often you see a guard move out with success in today’s NFL.
also…i tried to look up john hannah highlights and the nfl took em off youtube. fuck you nfl.
March 30th, 2011 at 5:55 PM
I’m not sure there are any failsafe drafting philosophies.
I’m not sure there are either however it seems the better drafting teams(Steelers, Pats, Eagles, Ravens, etc…) draft the best available player over position early on and then find players that fit the team’s system and team needs in the later rounds. Of course a team has to have a very good scouting department regardless of draft philosophy.
March 30th, 2011 at 5:55 PM
Ricky. Stanzi.
March 30th, 2011 at 5:57 PM
God damn right
March 30th, 2011 at 5:58 PM
Gotta love the lunchtime quickie. Now to catch up on what I missed here…
i porked my misses last night. anyone care? no? okay, i didnt think so.
March 30th, 2011 at 5:58 PM
Ricky. Stanzi.
A true American
/going to the Pitt vs Iowa game this fall
March 30th, 2011 at 5:59 PM
Shouldn’t you be facebook stalking some hot, blunt smoking black chick from Texas?
March 30th, 2011 at 5:59 PM
YouKnowMeAl Says:
A Ring Lardner reference? nice
March 30th, 2011 at 6:00 PM
What the fuck?
March 30th, 2011 at 6:00 PM
yea, but then i got high.
March 30th, 2011 at 6:00 PM
I still struggle with the obsession over making TE’s eat a bunch of food and putting them on an island against premier pass rushers. “But their lateral movement!” you say. I say it doesn’t do them much good when they get bull rushed and flung out of the play with great frequency.
March 30th, 2011 at 6:03 PM
No big deal. Just brought lunch home and got surprised so thought I’d brag. I’m on CA time, it was lunchtime still.
March 30th, 2011 at 6:03 PM
Best thing to come out of the Raiders 2004 draft. My gawd, i hate that fucking Gallery.
March 30th, 2011 at 6:03 PM
so check this out…april fools is friday.
im gonna print out a sign that says “printer is upgraded and voice controlled” or some shit. i have two coworkers who would totally fall for this, one of em sounds like he’s taken way too much acid and YELLS whenever he’s on the speakerphone…he’s def falling for it. so when i hear him yelling at the printer, i’ll start sending shit to the printer like “speak more clearly” and “speak louder.”
yay or nay?
March 30th, 2011 at 6:05 PM
there are some pretty good blocking TE’s…blocking’s all about determination and tenacity anyways. you have to want to block and if you don’t like the violence you’re prolly not going to do well regardless of your technique.
March 30th, 2011 at 6:05 PM
Reminds me of the copy machine as lie detector gag the detectives used on Homicide and The Wire.
March 30th, 2011 at 6:05 PM
That’s awesome Spencer. Almost as funny as having one of my co-workers convinced for the whole summer that chocolate milk came from brown cows.
March 30th, 2011 at 6:06 PM
Hell fucking yes!
March 30th, 2011 at 6:07 PM
Yeah, it’s just the newest fad. Everyone wants a ballerina on the island. A LOT of TE’s don’t want to block. They had The Top 10 Tight Ends on NFLN the other night. It was hilarious listening to them deride guys like Gates, Gonzalez and Winslow I for “having no interest in it.” The Chiefs d-line coach (dude who snapped his leg in the SB for the Bengals) was like, “Oh, when he first got here he couldn’t block a chair. But he eventually became…adequate.”
March 30th, 2011 at 6:07 PM
bunnk moreland, my muse.
March 30th, 2011 at 6:08 PM
On a side note, fuck this snow in late March bullshit. I thought march was supposed to go out like a lamb. damn it all to hell with this bullshit Ohio weather. I was golfing 4 days ago.
March 30th, 2011 at 6:09 PM
loved that.
vernon davis has spurts where he’s really good. witten’s nice too but he was better in like 2008-09.
the funniest was watching kellen winslow and his white gloves try to block joey porter. k2 got peezy once, but other than that, it was a pure ass kicking.
March 30th, 2011 at 6:09 PM
Reminds me of the copy machine as lie detector gag the detectives used on Homicide and The Wire.
For a mostly serious show The Wire had some moments of comedy gold
/Do the chair realize we’re gonna look like some punk ass bitches out there
March 30th, 2011 at 6:10 PM
The highlights of John Mackey are what get me. I can’t even imagine trying to tackle that guy. Shame about his brain nowadays.
March 30th, 2011 at 6:11 PM
im gonna print out a sign that says “printer is upgraded and voice controlled” or some shit. i have two coworkers who would totally fall for this, one of em sounds like he’s taken way too much acid and YELLS whenever he’s on the speakerphone…he’s def falling for it. so when i hear him yelling at the printer, i’ll start sending shit to the printer like “speak more clearly” and “speak louder.”
Jim Halpert?
March 30th, 2011 at 6:11 PM
this.
oh god no…and the old ditka ones? AWESOME.
March 30th, 2011 at 6:11 PM
That copy machine gag was actually taken from real life, it’s in David Simon’s Homicide book. They used it on that show, too, before they used it on the wire. If someone’s genetically disadvantaged and uneducated enough, I suppose they’ll believe just about anything.
March 30th, 2011 at 6:12 PM
are you saying there aren’t any kinkos in the hood?
March 30th, 2011 at 6:14 PM
Not that aren’t drug fronts managed by pushers who moonlight as upwardly mobile junior college students.
March 30th, 2011 at 6:16 PM
lol…speaking of stringer, have you seen the losers?
so sad…so sad.
March 30th, 2011 at 6:16 PM
Not that aren’t drug fronts managed by pushers who moonlight as upwardly mobile junior college students.
/pours one out for String
March 30th, 2011 at 6:19 PM
Yeah, that was bad, and that twist was even worse. Stringer’s also in this movie where he’s this ex-special ops soldier who’s mind has gone haywire and he spends most of the movie inside some dank apartment reading newspapers and creating conspiracy theories. Really, really weird.
On the plus side, that BBC miniseries Luther he headlines is quite good.
March 30th, 2011 at 6:20 PM
are you saying there aren’t any kinkos in the hood?
I will be trying this on Friday @ my work….
March 30th, 2011 at 6:22 PM
i porked my misses last night. anyone care? no? okay, i didnt think so.
considering some of the shit (and piss) that gets commented on around here, getting laid is a welcome addition
March 30th, 2011 at 6:23 PM
A Ring Lardner reference? nice
+1 short funny book
March 30th, 2011 at 6:23 PM
never heard of it before, but it sounds pretty good.
March 30th, 2011 at 6:25 PM
there are some pretty good blocking TE’s…blocking’s all about determination and tenacity anyways. you have to want to block and if you don’t like the violence you’re prolly not going to do well regardless of your technique.
and then there is some hawaaiian crap the bears signed to big money last year
March 30th, 2011 at 6:26 PM
Idris Elba should fire his agent. He has been dealt with shit over the past 5 years. A wasted talent.
March 30th, 2011 at 6:30 PM
one more thing. there’s way too much married-life-means-no-sex cliche bs here from guys who are single, so broccoli, even tho yer not married, reporting on a nooner is kudos from me
March 30th, 2011 at 6:38 PM
If it was something happening on the regular I wouldn’t feel the need. But I went home expecting nothing and was pleasantly surprised to be offered dessert with lunch.
/fist bumps vez
March 30th, 2011 at 6:50 PM
/fist bumps vez
back at ya. nooners don’t include fisting
March 30th, 2011 at 8:27 PM
I did a ctrl f in this entire post for Revis. Didn’t find it. I’m kind of upset.