Chris Johnson Better Not Expect Larry Fitzgerald Money
NFL August 22nd. 2011, 12:07pm
Larry Fitzgerald signed a contract extension for $50 million guaranteed over 8 years over the weekend, with a reported overall value of $120 million. Is it a large chunk of money, you bet. We also need to realize just how much money the star veteran players are going to be making under the new CBA deal that imposed a control on young player salaries. It’s hard to tell how these deals are structured until the specifics are filed with the league and the information leaks out. There is often some funny money in the non-guaranteed amount depending on how the base salaries are set late in the contract. I suspect that the guaranteed money is spread out over time, and he’s not cashing anything close to a $50 million check today.
The amount may seem high, and they’ll talk about average salary, but remember a couple of things: (1) the salary cap will continue to escalate during the life of this contract, while young player salaries are controlled; (2) as a result, veteran salaries will shoot up, and by the middle of this deal, he won’t be close to the highest paid player at his position. Football salaries for veterans are going to become closer to the baseball salaries we see top free agents sign, where numbers are in the $15-25 million range per year. 44% of the NFL’s value is tied up in player’s in the first four years in the league, but with the imposed caps and restrictions on renegotiation, maybe $30 million of the typical team’s cap will be. That number could represent less than 20% of the overall cap in a few years, leaving well over $100 million for the rest of the roster. You’re going to see the average veteran salary climb above $5 million, and it will be skewed toward stars.
Fitzgerald gave up a lot of years, when the cap will climb, to get $50 million guaranteed and what might be an average of $15 million a year. I’d also put him among the top 15 players in the league if I were re-drafting for the next five years, based on his age, his work ethic, his positional value, and how his past production projects going forward. Larry Fitzgerald has the second most receiving yards of any player through age 27. Sandwiched between Randy Moss, Torry Holt, and Jerry Rice. Sure, he entered the league at 21, but he’s been an elite player–an all-time great–and projects to be elite for at least the next 5 years based on his position and what other star players have done. I don’t think the Cardinals got a huge value by any means, but you have to pay stars what they are worth. He’s worth a contract that within a few years won’t be among the top 5 non-QB’s, spread out over 8 years.
Of course, soon after it was signed, people started talking about what it would do for Chris Johnson. I’ve already said that I support Chris Johnson’s position to hold out, but if he’s demanding anything close to this from Tennessee, I’d tell him to take a spin, offer him $20 million guaranteed to end his holdout, and put the risk on him to end his career or sit out a year rather than take that. Even setting aside their different leverage points (Fitzgerald had a clause prohibiting use of franchise tag and would be a free agent after this year, while Johnson is under contract and paying fines for holding out), they play different positions.
Johnson has been very good from ages 23-25, and is in good company among players with 4,800 or more yards from scrimmage during those ages. Unfortunately for him, he entered the league older than most elite backs at 23. The problem is that, while he may keep going strong like Emmitt, Walter or Eric Dickerson toward age 30, other cases like Jamal Lewis, Earl Campbell and Terrell Davis did not. The Titans can project on average 2 elite years as one of the 5-10 best at his position, and about 3.5 as a decent starter. Individual results varying quite a bit, of course.
And 2 elite years at running back and 3.5 as a starter aren’t worth $50 million spread out over 8 years, not even close. So while Johnson may want to get paid like Fitzgerald, he needs some people around him who aren’t just yes men to give him the hard truth about value.
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August 22nd, 2011 at 12:10 PM
Pay dyat mane heees money
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:13 PM
So strange
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:14 PM
Alternate headline: “DeSean Jackson better not expect Larry Fitzgerald Money”
/he doesn’t
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:18 PM
yeah, but at the same time it’s not like the NFL or the teams are really hurting for money, if they make it into the playoffs a couple times with chris johnson being paid a high amount of money they can recoup whatever they pay him.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:20 PM
name your sources.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:22 PM
Deepthroat and Andy Reid’s favorite baker.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:22 PM
For Arizona I think this is a great deal, but I think Fitty could have made more money going short extensions. At least more guaranteed money.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:23 PM
All I can picture is Andy Reid throating maple bars.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:25 PM
And my dreams of Larry becoming a Viking were officially shattered on Sunday.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:26 PM
I can’t wait to read Dan Shaughnessy’s article on how Larry Fitzgerald signed this deal with the intent of going to the Patriots in 2019 for the veterans minimum.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:28 PM
cousin yuri tell me you like to play the cards. this guy, fedor KGB, he own club in city. he let you in, no problem. but look, i want you to have good time. throw in chip, hit pair of czar with czar on the volga, drink vodka…but you no do what this guy do. all night he check, check, check…has alligator blood. fedor KGB not making the happy.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:29 PM
Chris Johnson needs to swallow his pride and show up to camp. Titans have already said they need some sort of cooperation from him and he’s being a child about it.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:29 PM
Adrian Peterson is a free agent after this year. What will he get next year?
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:29 PM
That is one of those movies I will always stop at when it’s on tv.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:30 PM
Adrian Peterson is a free agent after this year. What will he get next year?
I think it depends on what Johnson gets.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:30 PM
probably a contract dispute seeing as a guy that gets hit often is a turrible long-term investment.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:34 PM
But Andre Johnson is better.
/NFL Network Top 100 Players of 2011
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:34 PM
not as strange as the raiders giving kamerion wimbley $29mm guaranteed tho.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:35 PM
But Andre Johnson is better.
If Johnson was a free agent this off season, he probably would have netted a similar contract. As it is, what Lisk is saying, is true with Johnson’s contract: so long as he stays healthy and productive, it gets more reasonable each year.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:35 PM
Peterson will be 27 at the start of next season, so after this season he has three more before he hits the not-so-very-magic number of 30.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:37 PM
What is Chris Johnson’s leverage? The fact that the Titans will lose without him?
Couldn’t you argue that the Titans were going to be rebuilding this year (and therefore, losing), with or without Johnson?
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:38 PM
I wonder how many moves the Raiders have made that could logically follow this statement structure.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:38 PM
large, large cash. And I’d listen to reasons on why the Vikes should trade him.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:39 PM
Need advice here from you golf “experts” is THIS a good deal? I golf probably about 3-4 times a year and either borrow or rent clubs as I go along. Is this a good set for a guy who isn’t a regular golfer but wants to start?
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:41 PM
Fuck DeSean Jackson. I hope that cocky little shitbag gets blown up.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:41 PM
To whom and for what? I like this game.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:41 PM
Would you now?…
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:42 PM
pkiguy…that’d probably be ok to start, esp at that price point. id check out some used stuff as well.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:45 PM
/points at Shonn Greene
//gives Jersey the stink eye
LOYAL MUCH?
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:46 PM
purple isn’t his color.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:47 PM
2 LBs
1 CB
1 RB
1 DE
3 First round picks
3 Second round picks
1 3rd Round Pick
1 sixth round pick
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:47 PM
to slightly above average runners that contribute nothing to the passing game? na.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:48 PM
I went a long time not really knowing what it was like having a player that enraged other team’s fans like this.
It’s pretty special.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:48 PM
Why bring up Sanchez? I thought we were talking about running backs.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:49 PM
He’s in his 2nd year! Christ on a cracker!
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:49 PM
It’s sad you don’t realize McNabb was already this.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:50 PM
you wouldn’t even want a QB in return?
interesting.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:50 PM
Uh, Spencer… does this mean what I think it means? Bucci just tweeted:
TP to the Browns?
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:51 PM
Really? I think I’ve seen more wishing for violent death in a year of DeSean Jackson from other fans than in McNabb’s entire career.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:51 PM
+1 walk-off, game winning punt return
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:51 PM
TO?
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:51 PM
prolly cincy.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:52 PM
I remain surprised that a man with gold teeth is being stupid, unreasonable and short-sighted.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:52 PM
He’s doomed.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:53 PM
The Bungles are definitely gunning for 0-16 now.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:54 PM
But I have no problems taking DeBag Jackson in my fantasy league. Business is business.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:54 PM
if that’s the case then kudos to goodell for enacting an even harsher punishment than just a 5 game ban.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:54 PM
Yeah, his time in Philly was so fleeting though, I’m not sure he was ever truly “Philly’s guy” the way Jackson is. I think that ratchets up the vitriol for Jackson.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:54 PM
yep.
/spits
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:55 PM
Hey man. Like I said: Shonn gives us 12-1300 yards this season, I will be as delighted as a pig in shit.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:55 PM
he’s just well prepared with his investments in gold.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:56 PM
And TO did not become a cocky assbag until he proved himself. DeSean Jackson has been a skinny jackass since day one.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:56 PM
Well thats because Jackson is a prick on top of being very good at football. I know I wished for McNabb to be maimed on numerous occasions. I was even rewarded once.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:56 PM
That’s a wide range. You’re easily delighted.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:57 PM
To me he will always be the dipshit from Cal.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:57 PM
Spence: This may be a dumb question but, I have to ask. Troy or Terrelle?
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:58 PM
I hate DeBag the way SC hates LaRussa.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:58 PM
It was a Hershel walker trade joke.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:58 PM
Wasn’t that ACL tear on a play where he went out of bounds? He didn’t even get hit. I expect better maiming than that. Like how I would be delighted if Aaron Rodgers got Shaun Livingston’d.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:58 PM
what’s the rest of the question? quality of player in the NFL? ability?
cuz if it’s just which one i like more…sheeeeeeeeeeeit, only beanie could stiff arm troy out of the top spot of my favorite buckeyes that ive had the pleasure to see.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:58 PM
What can I say. I’m an easy grader.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:58 PM
Yeah. I think TO is such a physical specimen people had accepted that it was OK if he dominated their team, too.
With Jackson, being so tiny and so seemingly easy to destroy on the field if someone just hammered him, I think people get EXTRA annoyed when he’s celebrating in the end zone, like they are being gimmicked to death or something.
August 22nd, 2011 at 12:59 PM
It is what it is…A starter set. If you aren’t sure golf is really your thing, it’s worth it. If you’ve golfed enough to know that it’s something you want to take up, I’d pass and make the investment in a nicer set now. Otherwise you’ll find yourself piecemealing a better set together over the next few years that will cost a lot more in the long run.
August 22nd, 2011 at 1:00 PM
Yeah, against the Titans.
There was a play against Dallas where Roy Williams’ Roy Williams’d him. I just about lost my mind as that happened, thought it was over. If anyone can find that video you get a +1.
August 22nd, 2011 at 1:00 PM
He was also speared by the Redskins on MNF, no call but I think that broke a few ribs?
August 22nd, 2011 at 1:00 PM
I guess just more QB while at OSU. Watching the 2005 Michigan OSU game and this TP draft stuff just made me curious.
August 22nd, 2011 at 1:01 PM
That’s a good point. Still, DeSean Jackson looks like Gilbert Brown next to Todd Pinkston.
August 22nd, 2011 at 1:02 PM
These companies slogans when printed on a condom wrapper read entirely differently.
August 22nd, 2011 at 1:02 PM
sage advice…im still using the used set of irons my mom got me for my 22nd birthday. they weren’t appropriate clubs for a beginner, but im having a fuck of a time taking them out of my bag now. too attached to em.
if you can find a used set of irons for a good price in decent condidition, that’d last you a lot longer.
think of it like this…you spend $200 on irons you use for 5 years, that’s $40 a year. you spend $200 on irons you’ll replace, it gets pricey.
August 22nd, 2011 at 1:03 PM
Ha. I think if Todd Pinkston goes to dinner in Philly they make him pay double.
Have you been following the subtle and not-so-subtle war of words in the press between the Eagles and Giants the last few weeks? Things are getting quite testy, it’s great.
August 22nd, 2011 at 1:05 PM
i mean, i still like TP and everything and think he could be a damn fine WR in the NFL. but troy? the archangel of wolverine death? oh man…the 2004 and 2005 michigan games sealed troy’s deal. that shit was epic.
August 22nd, 2011 at 1:06 PM
i guess 2006 was too.
August 22nd, 2011 at 1:07 PM
Heres that horse collar tackle sportsdork. In the live viewing it looks really bad.
August 22nd, 2011 at 1:10 PM
The last great UM-OSU game was when they met #1 and #2. I forget which year that was but I was at an OSU bar in DC for it. It was insane.
August 22nd, 2011 at 1:15 PM
Yep, that’s the play.
Williams did that shit CONSTANTLY.
August 22nd, 2011 at 1:21 PM
Meh. It was legal half his career. I was always of the opinion bring the guy down by any means necessary.
August 22nd, 2011 at 1:23 PM
Yeah, if it’s legal, no problem. Williams couldn’t ever stop after it was illegal, though.
August 22nd, 2011 at 1:27 PM
Well thats because he is slow.
August 22nd, 2011 at 1:31 PM
Thanks for the golf advice. Still on the fence about them.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:00 PM
sportsdork here is the video of McNabb getting ripped down by Williams.
I had almost forgot about it, after rewatching it, I am glad you brought it to my attention.
Johnson will be no longer an elite back in 2 to 3 years. Almost no running back has that many touches over the amount of time he has already played plus another 2 to 3 years been elite anymore… The body breaks down, so will he and Tenn will be left with an expensive washed up back who needs to be replaced.