Oklahoma State Versus Alabama, Who You Got?
College Football December 4th. 2011, 8:55am
With Oklahoma State’s huge 44-10 win over rival Oklahoma last night, the debate can officially begin. By tonight, we will know who is paired against LSU for the national championship game. Houston and Virginia Tech, two teams that power ranked lower than their rankings entering championship week, fell by the wayside, not that they really had a chance because their resumes were not strong.
The only legitimate options are Alabama of the SEC and Big XII Champion Oklahoma State. Alabama has been at #2, while Oklahoma State made a strong statement. It would be improper to not calibrate and take into account the Oklahoma victory–it qualifies as the best win by either of the teams and thus absolutely can change the equation.
So let’s size them up.
Quality of Loss: There are those that would rule out Oklahoma State because of the overtime road loss at Iowa State. Alabama, of course, only has the home loss to LSU in overtime. Advantage: Alabama, clearly and unequivocally
Quality of Wins: Alabama’s best win is Arkansas at home by 24. After that, it’s the road win at Penn State by 16, and then either at 7-5 Auburn or 6-6 Florida by comfortable margins.
Oklahoma State’s best win was last night, 44-10 over Oklahoma. Next is the 25 point win over Baylor. After that, there are several that fall in similar range: Kansas State by 7, at Missouri by 21, at Texas by 12, and over Texas A&M on the road by 1.
Advantage: both by the top victory, and the depth of quality wins, Oklahoma State. The SEC middle and lower classes were down this year.
Strength of Schedule: Similar analysis. By reputation, people would say the SEC schedule for Alabama. By results on field, Oklahoma State’s was tougher. Alabama’s non-conference opponents were worse, and they did not get to play Georgia or South Carolina from the East. Advantage: Oklahoma State.
Connected Schedule between the two teams: They obviously didn’t play each other. There were 5 cases where their opponents went head to head, and 8 other combinations where opponents of Alabama and Oklahoma State shared a common opponent. Most of these involved Sun Belt teams because of Lousiana-Lafayette playing the Cowboys, and many other Sun Belt teams playing SEC opponents. The only prominent BCS match ups that are within two degrees are Texas A&M-Arkansas (Advantage-Alabama) and Oklahoma-Florida State-Florida (Advantage-Oklahoma State). In the non-BCS ties, if we use point differentials, it breaks down 6 for Alabama, 5 for Oklahoma State. Advantage: Alabama, ever so slightly.
Computer Rankings: Oklahoma State was close in most and ahead in several even before the Oklahoma game. They will be a solid #2 in the computer rankings used by the BCS (without margin of victory) ahead of Alabama thanks to schedule strength. In those that use the margin of victory, such as the SRS, the two teams were virtually even before last night. I feel pretty comfortable saying that the Cowboys shot ahead with the dominant victory over Oklahoma. Advantage: Oklahoma State
Reputation: Let’s face it, this matters. If Oklahoma, or Ohio State, or Florida, had Oklahoma State’s profile, going against another team that did not win its conference, this would not be much of a debate. That team would be in the title game. Throw in the SEC reputational advantage in recent title games, and it is Advantage: Alabama, big time.
Overall
Who do I think is better? Alabama, slightly. I don’t think its as large as many claim. Of course, picking who we think is the best team has never really been what this is about. One of the best teams I have seen in the last decade was the 2002 USC team with Carson Palmer at QB that killed Iowa in the Orange Bowl–I would have put them in a title game if my goal was picking the best team as they lost a close game at another top 5 team (Kansas State) and by a field goal at a top 15 team in Washington State, and dominated the rest of their schedule that included 8 other ranked teams. Their SRS ranking is in line with LSU this year. They didn’t go to the title game even though, had there been a playoff, they would have been the favorite.
Based on the BCS precedent of which teams were typically picked, it would be Oklahoma State. If we did a blind taste test, I’m pretty confident they more fit the profile of which teams have been selected in the past. The current call against them is the loss at Iowa State. If this had been a loss in the SEC, say, at home to Ole Miss in the Swamp, people would have talked about how strong the conference was. Most of the teams selected in the past have been selected on the basis of strength of wins, not quality of losses alone. It was but one factor. In fact, this argument has been used many times by the SEC teams in the past, particularly when it was Michigan that had the “best loss” and wanted a rematch.
That said, Alabama dominated their schedule, even if they did have a down SEC that featured LSU and Bama, then Arkansas and Georgia (who Alabama missed), then South Carolina and everyone else. They didn’t really come close to losing, other than the showdown with the Tigers. Oklahoma State had some closer calls (Texas A&M, Kansas State).
The rematch factor? It cuts both ways. You can argue that in a close call, the team that proved they are the basic equal of #1 is likely #2. You could also argue that they had their chance to win, and if the regular season matters, they should not get a do over when there is a candidate that now fits the profile of past BCS teams.
On the ABC broadcast last night, they said that at least 25% of voters need to move Oklahoma State to #2 ahead of Alabama (and for everyone else to have them at #3). Oklahoma State has the computer lead, so they don’t even need to sway a majority of voters. After last night, coupled with Virginia Tech’s totally unpredictable (sarcasm font) loss, they should move to #3 ahead of Stanford. The question is whether they get 25% or more of voters.
[EDIT: The BCS computer results have Oklahoma State leading in 4 of 6. As a result, after the high and low rankings are thrown out for both teams, the break even point is 37.5% of voters having Oklahoma State at #2 and the rest at #3.]
If they were named Oklahoma instead of Oklahoma State, I think it would be the Big XII champ versus the SEC Champ for the title. Since they are the team from Stillwater, though, I think it’s too close to call.
Who Should Play LSU in the National Title Game?
- Oklahoma State (79%, 636 Votes)
- Alabama (21%, 171 Votes)
Total Voters: 806

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December 4th, 2011 at 9:00 AM
Alabama deserves it.
But I want to play Oklahoma State. I mean, how much does the SEC have to prove?
December 4th, 2011 at 9:06 AM
Good analysis in the post. On the rematch factor, I fall on the side of Alabama had their chance.
I think the biggest question mark with Oklahoma State, Big 12 in general, was their defense, but, in their biggest moment of the season, their defense did a great job against a good Oklahoma offense.
Ok State is more likely to get blown out in the BCS Title game than Alabama, though. But, if there’s only going to be one game for the Title, it should be something we haven’t seen.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:11 AM
Bama lost the Game of the Century already on their home turf and has beaten fewer quality teams than OSU. The only reason they will get the nod over OSU is because their name is Alabama and people think they “look” like the better team, which of course in sports is a horrible way of determining who the better team is.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:12 AM
If Alabama had a competent kicker, they are still undefeated. Ok St lost to Iowa St! Bring on the rematch
December 4th, 2011 at 9:13 AM
This. All of it. Couldn’t have said it better.
You can’t help but think it’s going to be anyone other than Alabama with the way everyone on TV was discussing last night.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:15 AM
OKST lost to ISU in 2OT on the road. They had a bad week. Why is college football the only sport where the expectation going into the year is that you have to play a perfect season in order to be realistically considered to win a championship. Does “Any Given Saturday” not apply?
December 4th, 2011 at 9:16 AM
I mean, it’s kinda like Oregon. They score 64 points against the Washington States of the world. But then they can’t put up 20 against Auburn, and it was 33-13 in the 4th quarter of the LSU game (and that’s with an LSU turnover inside the red zone).
And now here comes Oklahoma State putting up 59 against the Kansases of the world. How many times did we have to see Oklahoma do the EXACT SAME THING and then get their asses handed to them by the SEC or USC before we got the point.
Apparently more. Because everybody’s trying to sucker themselves into it again just because they’re being pissy about the prospects of a defensive-minded SEC rematch.
It’s just like the people who were screaming “THERE’S GOING TO BE 6 UNDEFEATED TEAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” 6 weeks ago. Now there’s only one, and that includes Boise and Houston.
I swear–people have no sense of perspective or history.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:18 AM
With the current BCS system, no. A Final 4 consisting of: LSU, Bama, Ok St, and Oregon would be EPIC, but sadly we are left with sketchy computer #s to figure out the championship game.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:20 AM
I’m in favor of OkST. Part of it is because ALA had their shot, at home, to beat LSU. I can’t fathom a NC who didn’t even win their division let alone the conference.
I’ll admit, putting OkST in the title game increases the likelihood of a blowout, but I’ll take my chances seeing something different nonetheless.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:23 AM
It is hard to get past the rematch factor. I would just rather watch two teams that haven’t played each other during the regular season. And the game if the century wasn’t exactly the most thrilling game I have ever watched.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:24 AM
I swear–people have no sense of perspective or history.
The Auburn/Oregon game came down to the end. Not sure that we can argue that Oregon vs. Auburn was an issue. It could just as easily gone the other way. If Oregon didn’t score as much as normal, neither did Auburn.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:26 AM
Does a game need to have MAC type scores to be enjoyable? Also, does anybody clamoring for OK St. believe they would actually beat LSU at the Superdome?
December 4th, 2011 at 9:26 AM
AND THERE YOU GO.
Punish the team that deserves to be there because the game might be boring. How can you even entertain that argument. That’s like saying that the Ravens shouldn’t make the playoffs because Joe Flacco sucks and they win every game 13-6.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:26 AM
I clearly remember Alabama already losing on their own field to LSU.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:32 AM
In overtime. With four missed FGs. I also remember Oklahoma State losing to Iowa State. Iowa State. Iowa Freaking State. Let me repeat that. Iowa Freaking State.
All they had to do was beat Iowa State and we wouldn’t be having this argument.
Like in 2007 when USC got all pissy when LSU got picked over them. They wouldn’t have been if you wouldn’t have lost to 40 point underdog Stanford playing a third string quarterback. At home.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:34 AM
Breesus – What are you basing your argument on that Bama deserves a(nother) shot as opposed to OSU?
December 4th, 2011 at 9:35 AM
Ok. St all the way. I want to see Alabama prison sex Michigan.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:37 AM
Easy. It’s the SEC. Where they play defense. And won 5 straight national championship.
Oh yeah, and OKLAHOMA STATE LOST TO IOWA STATE. OSU lost to a 6-6 team that lost 52-17 to Missouri.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:40 AM
And they will have a chance at 6, but they shouldnt be guaranteed 6. I’m against both a rematch and two teams from the same conference being there. I didnt want Michigan in 06, and I dont want Bama today.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:42 AM
OKST should get the shot.
The BCS mantra is “every game counts”, and “it’s a season long playoff”. If that is the case, a team which did not win its division or conference championship should not play for the Title.
Another system and we might have another answer.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:43 AM
Trust me. Do you know how hard it is for me to defend Alabama? And Nick Saban?
I’m just sick of seeing people getting suckered in to the team that scored 66 against Texas Tech and Arizona. It happens every year. And it’s not like Alabama is the 2000 Ravens on offense.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:45 AM
Comparing OSU to Alabama.
Well done.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:47 AM
Auburn bloggers? Nice. They conveniently forgot that OSU has the 109th or whateverth ranked defense in the country.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:49 AM
Well the rest of us are sick of hearing about the greatness of overrated teams like Arkansas. Bama’s best two wins are an Arkansas team that got destroyed by the only 2 good teams they played and a PSU team not capable of scoring on Indiana.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:54 AM
You say this like it excuses Alabama losing. “C’mon guys, they only lost because they couldn’t find a way to put more points on the board. They deserve it!”
December 4th, 2011 at 9:55 AM
Again, WHY is any other alternative worse than this situation?
You make this sound like it was physically impossible for ISU to beat OKST. It’s not possible that ISU elevated their level of play for that game and that maybe OKST underestimated them? These kids are human; they have the ability to play above their means for one game or to not play up to their usual level also.
What does this have to do with deciding who plays? SEC plays defense – great. Big 12 plays offense. Wouldn’t you like to see which one wins out on the field instead of on paper?
December 4th, 2011 at 9:57 AM
Short week, 2 OT road game, learning of deaths in the athletic department just that morning. Meanwhile, Alabama had an off week to prepare to not score a touchdown at home against LSU.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:58 AM
Bama
BUT
I’ll watch no matter so it doesn’t really matter and it really doesn’t matter who I want because I don’t pick the teams so really I don’t care
December 4th, 2011 at 9:59 AM
Oklahoma State, quite easily. If Alabama were in OSUs shoes, we wouldn’t even be having this conversation — Alabama would already be booking hotel rooms in New Orleans. But because its Oklahoma State, we have to invent things like “worse loss” to justify a blatant ESPN-SEC money/power grab.
/9/11 was an inside job’d
December 4th, 2011 at 10:02 AM
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December 4th, 2011 at 10:03 AM
I agree that Arkansas is overrated, but this is the same Arkansas team that scored more points on aTm than OSU did. And the same Arkansas team that had one offensive touchdown against LSU.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:05 AM
And for the record, the Big10 is not as bad as everyone likes to say. Those were two damn good teams last night, if that was the SEC Champ Game Verne and Gary would have wanted those two teams to play again for the national championship.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:06 AM
Revisionist history has made that game a blowout and two years prior Oklahoma wasn’t tied with Florida in the 4th quarter…both of those games were just examples of the SEC’s might, just ask their fans
December 4th, 2011 at 10:08 AM
Good win Butters, would have liked to have seen Kirk get his shot at the end but the flag was the right call. Just a dumb play, kid wasnt even close to blocking it.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:09 AM
There is no point being made here.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:10 AM
I’ll withhold judgment until I see UW hold Oregon to less than 45…fun football game last night though, that’s the one thing the conference has provided this year is competitive games and an interesting title chase amidst the blowouts of the other leagues
December 4th, 2011 at 10:19 AM
You really just cherry pick whatever point is necessary to support the SEC, right?
How about saying it like this?
December 4th, 2011 at 10:20 AM
A decent case can be made that Bama should go, but “deserve” is a couple bridges too far.
In my opinion, even if LSU loses the title game, they should be the national champions. Their resume is so far and away better than any other school.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:20 AM
I’m all for OKState getting in. And I’m from SEC country for Christ’s sake. And if the Ok State team wins, they will have earned the title.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:25 AM
No matter what all the outcome of this is, it’s not going to be as satisfying as having it actually settled (in a somewhat more objective manner) on the field.
Also, there was a stretch in the 90s where the NFC destroyed the AFC in every Super Bowl for like 7 or 8 straight years. Does that mean we should have declared the NFC champion the best team in football or had those two teams play again in the Super Bowl?
December 4th, 2011 at 10:39 AM
‘Bama had their chance and lost, kicker be damned. Now it’s Ok State’s. Turn to lose to LSU.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:42 AM
I’m an SEC guy but I don’t see Bama’s case. The SEC was very down this year. Bama’s two marquee wins – Arkansas and Penn State – are good, not great.
OSU lands in Iowa to find out that two members of their athletic dept have died in a plane crash. It’s a Friday night game against a crazy motivated team. They lose in 2 OT.
All the “woulda couldas” you apply to Bama, Breesus, about Bama are not relevant. Sure, they missed four field goals. That’s part of the game! Good teams – see LSU! – have special teams, too.
Alabama even has one less win. The game against Georgia Southern should not count.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:42 AM
Also, there was a stretch in the 90s where the NFC destroyed the AFC in every Super Bowl for like 7 or 8 straight years. Does that mean we should have declared the NFC champion the best team in football or had those two teams play again in the Super Bowl?
Yes, and as a result, Denver, who most objective power rankings said were slightly better than Green Bay in 1997, were a 14 point underdog against Green Bay in the Super Bowl. The “computers” were right then, not reputation of conference.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:43 AM
If OSU beats LSU in New Orleans it will deserve the title.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:49 AM
The biggest problem is that, if Bama beats LSU, I don’t see any reason why Bama gets the title over LSU. If OSU beats LSU, or vice versa, it would feel like a definite resolution.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:50 AM
Their resume should earn them a #1 seed in a playoff format. DEFINITELY not a championship, or even a guaranteed spot in a championship game.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:58 AM
Exactly. The argument that OKSU doesn’t deserve a shot because other similar teams have gotten blown out is false. Eventually, one of these teams will beat the mighty SEC.
December 4th, 2011 at 11:04 AM
I agree that if we had a playoff, you would be correct. Since we are stuck with this beauty pageant instead, LSU is the prettiest girl in the room.
December 4th, 2011 at 11:14 AM
Could the BCS system be tweaked so that the formula used to create the rankings incorporates some sort of bonus for teams that win their regular season conference/division championship—not the championship game? Maybe it already does this; I don’t know and couldn’t find the answer online. Rick Riley nonsense aside, it seems fair to reward the regular season conference champion somehow. Doing this solves two problems.
First, it would act as a counter weight to de-facto benefit a team still in the mix for the BCS Championship game, who does not play in their respective conference championship game, receives by rewarding the additional risk teams playing an extra game assume. OAK ST should get the nod over Alabama for their body of work and for winning their conference championship.
Additionally a regular season championship bonus would decrease the affect on the BCS ranking of a team that loses the championship game. Punishing a team for playing an extra game makes no sense. I mean there is no way Michigan should go to a BCS bowl over a team they lost to in the regular season.
December 4th, 2011 at 11:19 AM
“And one” game (four team playoff) or 6 team playoff with the top two BCS teams getting a bye. Keep all the other non-playoff bowl games as is.
December 4th, 2011 at 11:25 AM
6-8-12-16, whatever, just stop the insanity, please
December 4th, 2011 at 11:35 AM
The BCS came into existence in 1998. For shits and giggles, here’s how the NFL would have played out using the BCS 1-2 matchups:
Theoretical matchup Actual matchup
1998 – Denver/Minnesota (Minnesota win); Denver/Atlanta (Denver win)
1999 – Jacksonville/STL (Jacksonville win); Tennessee/STL (STL win)
2000 – Tennessee/NY Giants (Tennessee win); Baltimore/NYG (Balt win)
2001 – Pittsburgh/STL (St. Louis win); New England/St. Louis (NE win)
2002 – Oakland/Philly (Philly win); Oakland/Tampa Bay (Tampa win)
2003 – New England/Philly (NE win); New England/Carolina (NE win)
2004 – Pittsburgh/Philly (Pitt win); New England/Philly (NE win)
2005 – Indianapolis/Seattle (Indy win); Pitt/Seattle (Pitt win)
2006 – San Diego/Chicago (SD win); Indianapolis/Chicago (Indy win)
2007 – New England/Dallas (NE win); New England/NYG (NYG win)
2008 – Tennessee/NY Giants (TN win); Pittsburgh/Arizona (Pitt win)
2009 – Indy/New Orleans (Indy win); Indy/New Orleans (NO win)
2010 – New England/Atlanta (NE win); Green Bay/Pittsburgh (GB win)
In 13 years, the 1-2 teams met in the Super Bowl once, and that outcome was #2 beating #1. Twice in those same 13 years the two teams that made the Super Bowl were not one of the two best teams in the league. The 1-2 system would have bombed completely twice, gotten the teams (but not the outcome right) once, and would have been hit or miss the other 10 times. Instead, the NFL decides it on the field, and no one argues afterwards whether the SB champion “deserved” to win it.
December 4th, 2011 at 11:43 AM
32 vs 120.
December 4th, 2011 at 11:44 AM
Yay! Let’s use past SEC teams as our basis for sending a team that didn’t even win their own division, let alone conference, to the national title game. That makes perfect sense!
December 4th, 2011 at 11:52 AM
To all the people screaming “Bama had their chance”, what if Bama was a Big team who did not have to play Lsu in season? Or a Pac 12 team? Do you believe they would have gone undefeated?
What if Oregon had not lost again after Lsu? Would you be saying they don’t deserve a rematch?
All am hearing is “i’d rather see”….really? You all moan about the Schools not caring about the young men and simply using them to gain riches. Now you want to shove the hard work of the Alabama players aside at the last moment so that youcan see the game you want. Alabama is the #2 team in the country. Their only loss is to the #1 team. You want to erase that because a team that lost to iowa state and beat a 1 loss Oklahoma team scores a ton of points?
December 4th, 2011 at 11:53 AM
College football is what it is. This isn’t civil rights, war protests or saving the whales. You don’t like it and thats fine. Stop trying to change it to fit your needs.
December 4th, 2011 at 11:56 AM
I sure do. GB last year was not the best team in the NFL not when you need a tie breaker to get in over the Bucs to the post season tournment. Hell they could barely pull away from a Bears team that had me playing QB at points in the game.
The Giants again not the best team in the NFL big deal they won the last game of the season.
I kind of like the idea of rewarding the team that you know played the best though out the year not that played good enough to get into the tounment and then got hot.
December 4th, 2011 at 12:02 PM
Fuck and yes.
jimisawesome also gets it. Playoffs are about getting hot at the right time (right UConn), CFB chooses to reward season long efforts. Neither are perfect, stop your bitching and enjoy the ride.
December 4th, 2011 at 12:06 PM
Me too. I think a +1 would be perfect for CFB.
December 4th, 2011 at 12:09 PM
(2002-3 USC) They didn’t go to the title game even though, had there been a playoff, they would have been the favorite.
I swear–people have no sense of perspective or history.
This really bothers me. There is no way in hell anybody would have been favored over Miami in a single game or in a playoff grouping as a whole in 2002. It would have been a BBoB-esque notion to list USC as the favortie. Would they have been favored over eventual champion Ohio State? Probably. But USC would most certainly not have been the favorite.
December 4th, 2011 at 12:09 PM
Yes of course. No one would want to see that game again when OSU’s sitting there with one loss.
December 4th, 2011 at 12:09 PM
First things first, the precendent has been set of no rematches when Michigan was denied their oppertunity of a rematch against tOSU. UM had the much better loss than did uf. If Bama was the only 1 loss AQ team fine have the rematch even if it was only Oregon sure still Bama. But, we have a team that has a better resume.
Okie St will crush Bama in the SOS department. Okie St played much better cupcakes. Okie St has better 1 though 6 wins then does Bama. Bama has the better loss no question. But, Iowa St is not Indiana so its not like a loss so bad as to be an embarssment of the ages.
December 4th, 2011 at 12:17 PM
Stop trying to make a great sport better, guys.
December 4th, 2011 at 12:18 PM
So in 2006 when Michigan had the better loss than UF, overall resume mattered more, but now that Bama has the better loss compared to OK State’s better overall resume, that script has been flipped by SEC honks. Got it.
December 4th, 2011 at 12:20 PM
So what counts more: strength of victories or strength of loss?
It sounds like you’re saying OKST has had played a stronger schedule (therefore would have stronger wins), but is being discounted because their one loss came to more inferior opponent than Alabama’s loss came to. Is that one game enough to punish them if their entire body of work (as an aggregate) is stronger?
December 4th, 2011 at 12:23 PM
Stop trying to make regular seasons less exciting. CFB doesn’t tell you what games are important, important games just happen organically.
If you are simple minded and need to be told what games to watch by having everything important labeled as PLAYOFF, then thats a you problem.
December 4th, 2011 at 12:25 PM
Doesn’t mean they wouldn’t have rolled. They sure as hell weren’t losing to LSU or Joklahoma in 2003 if they got a shot.
December 4th, 2011 at 12:28 PM
You can’t have it both ways. You can’t say they had the better sos when they lost to the cupcake.
The notion that tOSu/M is precedent is a fallacy. It was obvious at the time that not only was UF better than UM but also better than tOsu. We were right….but there’s no belief that anyones better than LSU and many feel that Bama are a slight notch below.
At the end of the day the SEC has proven to be top dawg, let them play.
There’s no reason for Osu to jump Bama except you alls viewing preference. This is Sport. It should not matter.
December 4th, 2011 at 12:29 PM
If mischaracterization was a sport, you’d be a number one seed.
December 4th, 2011 at 12:30 PM
Of course you can. The two are unrelated.
December 4th, 2011 at 12:35 PM
How often does the “best” team win the championship in any sport? If that was the case, sports would be a lot more boring. Often the team that wins the championship is one that got hot at the right time, got breaks, etc. To me, that’s part of the appeal. Otherwise, why play bowl games at all? Just call LSU the champion and end the season.
December 4th, 2011 at 12:39 PM
Bravo.
December 4th, 2011 at 12:49 PM
Happens in the most popular sports league in the world the EPL every year. It happens in the second most watched sport in the world every year F1. It mostly happens in the second most popular sport in the US college football.
December 4th, 2011 at 12:52 PM
There is a reason soccer and F1 racing are not popular in the US.
December 4th, 2011 at 12:52 PM
So obvious that Urban Meyer felt the need to campaign seriously for a spot in the title game. And so obvious that UF was a 7 point underdog to tOSU.
December 4th, 2011 at 12:58 PM
With the current BCS system, no. A Final 4 consisting of: LSU, Bama, Ok St, and Oregon would be EPIC, but sadly we are left with sketchy computer #s to figure out the championship game.
you would just screw over Arkansas State like that? They deserve a seat at the table. That’s what’s fair.
December 4th, 2011 at 12:59 PM
I think it’s pretty simple:
The Big12 has not had a shot at the SEC this year. Everyone else, has in a roundabout way. (Big East is not eligible b/c they suck)
LSU beat Oregon – Eliminates the PAC12
Alabama beat Penn State. Overall, the Big 10 is average this year.
The SEC dominated the ACC the last week of the season.
Give the Big 12 a shot.
December 4th, 2011 at 2:04 PM
It has to be said that part of the reason teams like Oregon (or presumably, Oklahoma State) can’t put up huge numbers against SEC defenses in BCS games is because they’ve had 6 weeks off. People ignore that but it’s not unlike August practices, the defenses are always ahead of the offenses for awhile.
LSU/Alabama couldn’t score a touchdown in their game and it took place 2/3 through the season. With their offenses on ice for 6 weeks the final of an LSU/Alabama final might be 3-0.
December 4th, 2011 at 2:06 PM
This of course is not even remotely true. Everyone thought Ohio State was going to roll in the national championship game.
December 4th, 2011 at 7:52 PM
You really don’t want to use that rationale. Because one could rebutt with the fact that the team who scored the most points on ‘Bama this year – more than LSU, Auburn, Penn St., and Arkansas… was Georgia Southern.
/stats don’t lie my ass