A Game of Inches and Oblong Balls: The Giants’ Run To the Title Filled With Fortune
NFL February 6th. 2012, 3:09pm
Today, Tom Brady stares at his feet while Eli Manning gets praised. Often, though, these moral judgments that are passed on someone’s character hang in the balance of things beyond anyone’s power to control.
The Giants had three fumbles in this game, though only two were official. The first was the fumble by Victor Cruz, which would have been a key swing play in the game, but was nullified because the Patriots lined up with 12 men on defense. That one was actually recovered by New England for naught. The other two came in the second half with the Giants trailing, and could have ruined any chance of a comeback.
The first was Hakeem Nicks, who fumbled it backward where it was recovered by Henry Hynoski almost five yards back from where the ball came out. The Giants scored the field that made it 17-15 (thus altering the end of game strategy of the Patriots) later that drive.
The second came right after Tom Brady threw the interception by Chase Blackburn. Ahmad Bradshaw fumbled it, and the ball spun back to Chris Snee, when it could have just as easily gone in any number of directions, most with Patriots waiting. If the Giants lose the ball there, New England has it inside the 15, already up by 2 at the start of the fourth quarter.
As Bill Barnwell of Grantland notes: “The Giants recovered eight of the 10 fumbles that hit the ground during their four playoff games, and had they failed to recover either of the Kyle Williams muffed punts or the Bradshaw fumble on Sunday, they might not have won the Super Bowl.”
Forcing fumbles and holding on to the ball is a skill. Getting the ball to bounce to your player in a pile is not. In the regular season, the Giants recovered 10 of their 18 offensive fumbles, and fell on 11 of 21 by the opponent. The Giants had some fortune on their side, and now we get to debate legacies as a result.
So now we have a Super Bowl champion who (and I think this is completely fair to say since they were 9-7 and needed to win 6 straight games) had more luck than any team that has ever won the title. You can’t point to any single play in 1985 that could have changed the Chicago Bears as world champions. The San Francisco 49ers were never one play from missing Joe Montana’s fourth Super Bowl win. Most Super Bowl winners may have a handful of key swing plays during the season or the postseason run that could have changed the outcome. The Giants have too many to count.
From Romo to Welker, the Giants had two passes that were missed that could have ended their season, and they could do nothing to prevent it, only relying on lack of execution. Remember the Victor Cruz non-fumble going to the ground controversy at Arizona? That’s just another one that could have altered the season. In a season with 7 wins when trailing in the fourth quarter, any one of which doesn’t happen, there were a lot of plays the Giants had to execute, with no margin of error, just to get where they ended up.
Should they apologize? Absolutely not. That’s what makes this game so great and unpredictable. We just need to watch how much our perceptions are influenced by things beyond our control. This Giants team won a title by making key plays, and also having plenty of key plays happen for them.
[photo via Getty]

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February 6th, 2012 at 3:12 PM
Awesome. There’s a cat on the pitch in the Liverpool game.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:13 PM
Sorry to do this, but I’ve been using the Giants as Exhibit A of why there shouldn’t be more than a 4-team college football playoff to people spouting off today about how awesome the Super Bowl was and how crappy the BCS is. Given the totality of games played in the NFL season, the Giants are the luckiest team, maybe the hottest team, not the best team.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:14 PM
Oh no… please don’t tell me if they grab it by its tail. Poor kitty.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:14 PM
We should make it a rule that we have to try and diminish every title team from here on out.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:16 PM
Not at all. They were very gentle.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:17 PM
Enough already. Stop looking for reasons to denigrate this win. The Giants won the game, and that’s it. Stop trying to justify why they should not have won, or looking for that one play that would have kept the Giants out of the playoffs. I can find many plays in all the Giants losses that could have turned the game in the Giants’ favor, but didn’t. Yeah, just as much as the Giants could have gone 6-10, they also could have gone 13-3.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:17 PM
They have to be if they want to keep the skin on their forearms.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:18 PM
So true. The Broncos in the playoffs and NYG winning the Super Bowl hammers home my theory that anything more than 8 in a CFB playoff would be criminal.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:20 PM
Just as its annoying when someone thinks anything just happened now IS THE GREATEST THING TO EVER HAPPEN OMGZZZZ!!!! so is the guy who has to look for a flaw in every fucking thing. Amount of cynicism that exists in this world is depressing.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:22 PM
So we’re going to completely ignore their schedule and injuries? That Giants team could’ve beaten plenty of other SuperBowl winners
February 6th, 2012 at 3:22 PM
Very good post, especially in light of the “ELIte, Brady lutz” articles flying around the series of tubes today. Neither team was the best in their respective conferences, both needed some major help to get there, and the Giants fucked the leprechaun yesterday when it mattered.
Would I have taken a Ravens Super Bowl win that was a result of luck? Absolutely. But they were extremely unlucky and those be the breaks.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:23 PM
The Patriots dynasty run happened to a fortunate freak accident to a franchise quarterback and the tuck rule.
And let’s not act like the got a 5th and goal or anything to win their championship.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:23 PM
Just wanted to see that quote again.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:24 PM
the Giants are the luckiest team, maybe the hottest team, not the best team.
and they won the single elimination Superbowl tournament. And not a single team that has anything to bitch can’t point to the mistakes they made as the reason they didn’t win.
Most of the “best” teams lost home games, too. But the Giants are the champs because they won the tournament. That’s the gist of a playoff.
But it does require some uniformity in scheduling.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:24 PM
But what if it is?
Always gets downgraded to the exact same thing you just said because it is NOW. It’s a two way street.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:24 PM
I think the point is to say that good fortune had a lot to do with why they won, so instead of making sweeping conclusions about a single player’s career (Eli, Brady) look how close it was to not even happening, and that player had no impact on it whatsoever.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:25 PM
Pretty sure this rule has been in place for quite some time.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:25 PM
Needing to win 6 straight games and then proceeding to win those 6 straight games makes you lucky?
February 6th, 2012 at 3:26 PM
A lot of this could be alleviated if the NFL didn’t have 8 4-team divisions. These types of occurrences were far less frequent in the three-division era.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:26 PM
Should they apologize? Absolutely not. That’s what makes this game so great and unpredictable.
Uh boy.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:27 PM
bullshit…the steelers were WAY more fortunate when they won the SB over the seahawks. that whole fucking stretch was fortunate bounce after fortunate bounce.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:27 PM
If Schaub doesn’t get hurt, they probably go 12-4 and Baltimore doesn’t get 3 turnovers against them.
I can play that game too
February 6th, 2012 at 3:27 PM
I would love to get defensive about how my favorite team won a Super Bowl they day after they won it.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:29 PM
I would love to get defensive about how my favorite team won a Super Bowl they day after they won it.
First World problems, indeed.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:29 PM
If Schaub doesn’t get hurt, Houston wins the title in my opinion.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:30 PM
Sure, the Giants could have beaten a lot of Super Bowl winners…my point is that an equivalent college team doesn’t deserve the chance to beat those other elite teams who played better over the totality of their schedule.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:30 PM
Except that the Ravens stomped Houston with Schaub healthy. So….
February 6th, 2012 at 3:31 PM
If Suh doesn’t play like shit and the defense isn’t pure garbage, the Lions could have gone to the Super Bowl.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:31 PM
If Schaub doesn’t get hurt, Houston wins the title in my opinion.
Fortunately, it looks like Indy may still be a mess next year. So we might get another shot at this.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:31 PM
By the way, the second episode of Luck was awesome.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:31 PM
Stop it with the college football, please.
This, this is good.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:31 PM
I usually love your posts Lisk, but this one I cant get behind.
Pointing to a couple of dominant SB teams from the past and saying this Giants team was the luckiest does nothing.
What about the Steelers a few years back? The Packers last year were a Desean Jackson TD punt from not making the playoffs.
Super Bowl winners are not only good, they are lucky, thats the whole point.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:33 PM
Nope.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:33 PM
Except that the Ravens stomped Houston with Schaub healthy. So….
yeah, but the Ravens in the playoffs (with Matt Birk having already retired, but not mentioning it) didn’t stomp anybody in the playoffs, not even Houston. And that’s the game that counted.
Does anybody remember the non-muffed muff in the San Fran / Pittsburgh game? That was a big deal all the way around. One of the year’s bigger plays.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:33 PM
Too big of an if
February 6th, 2012 at 3:34 PM
I’ll stop for at least he rest of today.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:34 PM
Pretty much.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:34 PM
By the way, the second episode of Luck was awesome.
thanks for ruining it. Now i have to watch it knowing it’s awesome. It will be hard to temper my enthusiasm. I may blow a gasket anticipating awesome things.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:34 PM
By the way, the second episode of Luck was awesome.
thanks for ruining it. Now i have to watch it knowing it’s awesome. It will be hard to temper my enthusiasm. I may blow a gasket anticipating awesome things.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:35 PM
So true. That’s like me saying if Atlanta’s OL, DL and DBs didn’t suck, they could have been champions.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:35 PM
Too big of an if
if a picture paints a thousand words, then why can’t I paint you?
February 6th, 2012 at 3:36 PM
IF THE GIANTS WERE THE BROWNS…
…gronk woulda caught that touchdown.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:37 PM
In what lifetime is that ever going to happen to us?
/cries
February 6th, 2012 at 3:37 PM
Yeah and the Redskins swept the SB Champs too.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:37 PM
I’ll temper your enthusiasm a little. Of the nudity, only 1/2 was any good.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:37 PM
IF I hadn’t made a snide remark about that blondes muffin top last Friday, I probably would have hooked up with her.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:37 PM
If Matthew Stafford didn’t eat so much candy maybe he would make better decisions.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:38 PM
IF THE GIANTS WERE THE BROWNS…
…gronk woulda caught that touchdown.
I laughed.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:39 PM
I went straight to Commando on a channel called “Reelz”.
/just bodies
February 6th, 2012 at 3:39 PM
Some to a greater degree than others.
The point is to not discredit the Giants. They won the title and deserved it. But with the hyperbole thrown around, it’s important to look at how one different bounce of the ball could have dramatically changed the course of a champion’s season.
Since the Giants were a good but not great team, there just happened to be more on their title run. It is what it is.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:39 PM
Its damn hard to advance to the Super Bowl. Maybe it was Lisk who said this earlier, but in the late rounds of the playoffs, both teams are usually so evenly matched that luck usually becomes the deciding factor. Both championship games hinged on who got lucky and who didn’t.
Evans dropped a TD and Cundiff missed a gimme to hand the Patriots and undeserved win. Kyle Williams fumbled twice to hand the Giants their ticket. The lucky team usually wins. It’s just part of the game.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:40 PM
humblebrag?
February 6th, 2012 at 3:40 PM
Those 5,000 yards and 40+ TDs must suck.
/seriously…knocking Stafford makes you sound retarded
//fire away at that defense, though
February 6th, 2012 at 3:40 PM
+1 Roethlisberger* tackle
*not a rookie
February 6th, 2012 at 3:40 PM
Hey did you guys know the BCS only has two teams compete for their championship and a team like the Giants would never have been allowed to play? This is a totally original thought I just came up with now.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:40 PM
When did the SB winner go from dominant to lucky?
I think sometime around 1997, when Free Agency really started taking a toll on the traditional powers and ushered in the era of uncanny fortune.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:42 PM
I went straight to Commando on a channel called “Reelz”.
I can’t stand that channel. They call themselves a movie channel, but the movies they show are the edited for TV versions. So when you watch The Big Lebowski you hear “This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps, Larry!”. There’s also no nudity, violence is edited, the formatting is full screen instead of widescreen and they have commercial breaks. It’s the fraudiest of movie channels ever and I refuse to support it.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:42 PM
I just done like Lisk bringing up the 1985 Bears or 49ers.
It’s a completely different era now, there are no dominant teams in todays NFL. Todays SB champ requires more luck than in the 80′s and 90′s just by virtue of the teams in the league being so much more closer in talent.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:42 PM
/seriously…knocking Stafford makes you sound retarded
praising Stafford doesn’t sound too smart either. That guy is totally hit and miss, with an exceptional bailout guy.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:42 PM
Shaun Hill could do that with those weapons throwing the ball 50+ times a game.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:43 PM
News to me.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:43 PM
As does talking when “Staff Daddy’s” nuts are always in your mouth
February 6th, 2012 at 3:43 PM
I’m on board with this post, but don’t be fooled into thinking that is “luck”. Think of it this way… you just typed Lee Evans and Billy Cundiff? You think you’d be saying the same thing about Fitzgerald or Vinatieri? Evans and Cundiff didn’t execute.
The fumble stuff is absolutely luck. The ball bounces in strange ways.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:44 PM
Can I now pretend that Norwood makes that field goal and propels the Bills to 4 straight? Now I feel great.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:44 PM
“Some people find the word disturbing. Angina.”
February 6th, 2012 at 3:44 PM
Ravens fans would like you to shut the hell up.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:45 PM
I agree with everything you said…but I still watched it.
Most unbelievable thing in that movie is thinking Bennett would last more than 5 seconds in a knife fight with Matrix.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:45 PM
Sure he could. He also threw it 41 times a game, not 50.
/just saying
I’d take him in a cocaine heartbeat.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:45 PM
Thank you Nick Harper’s wife for stabbing your hubby in the leg
February 6th, 2012 at 3:45 PM
The ’04 Patriots were probably the last team where it would have been stunning had they lost in the playoffs
February 6th, 2012 at 3:45 PM
As big a factor as free agency, I would point to right after the Browns and Texans were added to the league as a better starting point because the addition of two new teams thinned out the talent pool there.
The #1 factor, though, has to be injuries. So many season-ending injuries really thins out teams.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:46 PM
I’d take him in a cocaine heartbeat.
over Matt Ryan? Sure, me too.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:47 PM
Could only make it through about 3 paragraphs of Bill Simmons eulogy.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:47 PM
The ’04 Patriots were probably the last team where it would have been stunning had they lost in the playoffs
At least one of those Colts teams, the pittsburgh year, and definitely the 18-1 Patriots. Both of those were stunning (to me).
February 6th, 2012 at 3:49 PM
And Romo.
Side note: Mark Sanchez threw the ball 34 times a game. That seems like a lot for someone who isn’t good at throwing the ball.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:49 PM
bob loblaw’s oblong ball/law blog.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:50 PM
When Brady said: “He said we’re only going to score 14 points? OK” I was right there with him with the smug smile. Still amazed that happened.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:50 PM
Reelz always plays Showgirls, which is a shame because it chops off the majority of the pool scene.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:51 PM
that’s the GOAT of movies.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:52 PM
i’d say the distinction of dominant is: stopping the other team at will, scoring at will, no fumbles or interceptions and a + in the turnover differential
lucky: winning and committing potentially crippling mistakes the other team can’t capitalize on because they, too, are committing crippling mistakes.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:53 PM
He threw the ball 59 times in that December game against the Giants that the Eagles needed the Jets to win. I watched it from start to finish. It was awful.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:55 PM
No, luck is something out of your control, and committing mistakes is definitely within a teams control.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:55 PM
When Brady said: “He said we’re only going to score 14 points? OK” I was right there with him with the smug smile. Still amazed that happened.
I’ll never forget that either. I remember it vividly. And the mouthy Giants walked their talk that year, too. Crazy.
February 6th, 2012 at 3:57 PM
The opening montage alone puts it in that category. I mean, at the 2:04 mark, he feeds a deer!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5IZAqrrBHo
February 6th, 2012 at 3:57 PM
true. i should amend it to say “committing mistakes and the outcome is still in your favor due to the odd bounce, missed call, distracting streaker, etc.”
February 6th, 2012 at 3:58 PM
Too bad there will still always be those unable to think of a more interesting thing to say than something about “bulletin board material”
February 6th, 2012 at 3:59 PM
Yeah like fumbles bouncing right too your players. Having a referee blow a forward progress whistle, etc. etc.
To think, a Ted Ginn injury was instrumental in letting the Giants make the Super Bowl.
February 6th, 2012 at 4:02 PM
Dude, I get it, Im a 9er fan too, but let it go man, just let it go…
February 6th, 2012 at 4:04 PM
That’s definitely lucky.
/2006 Florida Gators
February 6th, 2012 at 4:07 PM
You can argue that the Steelers’ rise to glory began with the Immaculate Reception
You can argue that the 49ers’ rise to glory began with Dwight Clark catching a pass that Wes Welker couldn’t catch last night.
You can argue that the Patriots’ rise to glory began with the tuck rule.
/everybody’s lucky
February 6th, 2012 at 4:07 PM
Agree somewhat, but every receiver in the NFL should catch TDs that hit them in the chest, and every kicker in the NFL should make a 32 yarder with no wind 100 percent of the time in the playoffs.
Evans and Cundiff most certainly didn’t execute, but its not because they’re bad players. It was just bad luck. Had Evans dropped a ball in triple coverage or Cundiff missed a 52 yarder in the rain I’d feel differently. But those were players high school players make, and they failed. To me, that’s more bad luck than lack of skill.
February 6th, 2012 at 4:09 PM
Final top 5:
1. Giants
2. Ravens
3. Packers
4. Saints
5. Patriots
“Preseason” top 5:
1. Packers
2. Saints
3. Ravens
4. Texans
5. Patriots
February 6th, 2012 at 4:12 PM
Final top 5:
1. Giants
2. Ravens
3. Packers
4. Saints
5. Patriots
what’s for dinner tonight? Sour Grapes?
February 6th, 2012 at 4:12 PM
How is this luck?
I know.
February 6th, 2012 at 4:12 PM
Degrees of difficulty varied quite a bit, but I get your overall point.
February 6th, 2012 at 4:16 PM
How is this luck?
that was a difficult catch. It was lucky for the 49ers, though, that Dallas fumbled the ball away after that.
February 6th, 2012 at 4:17 PM
Dwight Clark couldn’t jump 12 inches and he was elevated 5 feet for about 4 seconds to catch that ball.
/exaggeration
February 6th, 2012 at 4:19 PM
If Welker had caught that ball last night it would have been of the best clutch grabs of all time. People just aren’t understanding how difficult it was for Welker to make that snag. The ball was high and behind him on a full sprint. Manningham’s catch was easier than that.
February 6th, 2012 at 4:19 PM
Clearly it’s all luck and sheer hustle had nothing to do with this.
February 6th, 2012 at 4:19 PM
/lights self on fire
//sends video to Jeff Lurie
February 6th, 2012 at 4:20 PM
Seriously? Hustle? That’s what you’re going with? The old hard work trope?
Yeah, all that says is that the Giants wanted it more.
February 6th, 2012 at 4:28 PM
People tend to underestimate the power of having to go on the road and win under “one and done” conditions. The perfect example is the Pack vs. the Giants this year: one team was basically coasting after locking up home field and the G-men had their back against the wall, effectively playing under playoff pressure for the last couple of games.
Hey, in any fight the guy with absolutely nothing to lose will generally walk away the winner.
February 6th, 2012 at 4:31 PM
The Ravens weren’t unlucky, they’re a team that is unfocused at the most inopportune times. They treated both games against the Steelers like it was the Super Bowl, then fell on their face against inferior teams the next week. The game against New England was just a microcosm of what and who the Ravens are. They come up short in the end, year after year.
February 6th, 2012 at 4:33 PM
so being 20 yards down the field on a play you weren’t involved in and recovering a fumble isn’t hustle?
February 6th, 2012 at 4:33 PM
People just aren’t understanding how difficult it was for Welker to make that snag.
who isn’t? In your mind, people aren’t. But you are the guy with the problem
February 6th, 2012 at 4:33 PM
I’ll admit it. If Brad Childress doesn’t allow 12 players into the huddle coming out of a time out, my team has never been to a Super Bowl, much less win one.
February 6th, 2012 at 4:40 PM
Except when they won the Super Bowl.
The Ravens were the best team in the AFC this year and probably the best team in the NFL (although the Pack and Saints would have given them fits). No team that goes 7-0 against playoff teams can be accused of being unfocused at inopportune times. They won every big game they played sans the AFC title game, and that was a fluke. They had bad losses like everyone else in the NFL this year.
If the NE game is a microcosm of who the Ravens are, then they were the best team in the NFL. Because they were better than the Pats and lost on a fluke. Doesn’t count any less, but it doesnt change the facts, either.
February 6th, 2012 at 4:51 PM
Like I tell the Ravens fans I have to see every day who want to still talk about their Super Bowl, if they’re celebrating the 10th anniversary of that victory, or if you can’t find video of the game in HD, it might be time to put that away.
Not making a catch in the end zone or making a short field goal isn’t a fluke, it’s coming up short. But Ravens fans, you guys do what you do; blame the ref, or blame the clock operator in New England for tricking the kicker. Then again, if you were really the best, they wouldn’t have had to worry about New England’s clock, they would have been playing in B’more.