The Packers Would Not Really Franchise Matt Flynn for $14 Million, Would They?
NFL February 23rd. 2012, 4:08pm
Kevin Seifert, ESPN’s NFC North blogger, raises the possibility that the Jermichael Finley’s signing yesterday could increase the likelihood that the team franchises backup quarterback Matt Flynn. The franchise figure for quarterbacks is around 14 million. Just for comparison, only seven quarterbacks last year had a cap figure over $14 million, with Phillip Rivers just under. That would be a higher cap figure than Aaron Rodgers last season.
We saw the New England Patriots successfully pull this off in franchising and trading Matt Cassel three years ago. They got a second round pick. However, in a trade scenario, the franchise tag gives the player a hammer. He doesn’t have to take significantly less than the $14 million early on. Cassel, for example, had an average cap hit of over $13 million over the first three years of the deal. Think about it. Why would Flynn entertain a deal with $27 million over the first three seasons (money more in line with Cutler, Kolb, or Schaub) when he knows he has the franchise tag tender behind him? He could say no, collect $14 million while sitting the bench and letting his legend grow, then easily make over $13 million in 2013 and 2014. That’s more like Hasselbeck to Tennessee or Fitzgerald money, something he would easily achieve.
I’ve expressed my reservations about Matt Flynn as a hot free agent, but I cannot believe that teams will be wanting to pay him as a top 8 player AND trade a pick for the privilege. If I can pay him $8 to $10 million per year with the requisite signing bonus, and I need a starter, maybe, but not the $12.5 to 13 million per year it will take to negotiate around the franchise tender.
I don’t see how any team will want to do that, and I don’t see what incentive Flynn would have to agree to a deal before hand at a discount, then allow the franchise tag to be applied later to complete the deal. Maybe they will find a partner, but I think franchising Matt Flynn is a big risk. Sure, you would like to get compensation, but there is a big difference between nothing and 14 million in this case. If there was a mid-level figure at around 7 million I could see the Packers using it.
It’s too big a risk for Green Bay to try to squeeze a second rounder rather than get a compensatory pick in 2013. You don’t want your backup getting paid more than your league MVP next season if no one bites.
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February 23rd, 2012 at 4:11 PM
Hasselbeck didn’t make that much money in Tennesssee last yar……did he? If so, fucking woof.
For every Matt Schaub, there are 5 Scott Mitchell’s. Buyer beware.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:12 PM
Something is about to happen in Columbus! So scared.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:15 PM
Agreed, would rather they use the tag on Scott Wells
Still amazed at the Finley deal, Ted Thompson strikes again
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:16 PM
What did he end up signing for? I’ll assume they got him at a discount?
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:16 PM
Agree completely
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:18 PM
2 for $15M…thought for sure he’d want a longer deal than that and if they had franchised him he probably would have been considered a WR for contract purposes
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:18 PM
but I cannot believe that teams will be wanting to pay him as a top 8 player AND trade a pick for the privilege.
Exactly. Not a big enough name for the Raiders or Redskins to fall for it. If the Packers have the cap space for it, though, it seems like a worthwhile gamble. There’s always going to be some team panicking in September. Next year I predict it will be the Broncos
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:18 PM
He could also be exposed during Rodgers 6-week concussion stretch, make $14M next year, and $6M for the remainder of his career.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:18 PM
Dammit mantis you beat me to it.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:19 PM
/places thumb on nose
//waves fingers
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:19 PM
/does math
Yeah, I’d take that if I could. Fucking genetics.
/kicks rock
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:20 PM
If it’s the Raiders, they have to take a 5th Round pick…and that would represent the 4th 2012 Raider draft pick for a QB.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:21 PM
If it’s the Raiders, they have to take a 5th Round pick…and that would represent the 4th 2012 Raider draft pick for a QB.
I waws assuming it would be 1st rounders in 2014, 2015, and 2016 to be safe.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:21 PM
Waws. I just typed with an accent
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:25 PM
That makes sense then.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:26 PM
Seems fair, I thought he was pretty inconsistent last year… too many drops.
Nice write up Lisk, thats a hell of a lot for a backup.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:27 PM
If he goes to (pick a team), he could suck and get cut after one year, also. And never see all of that $25-$30 million.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:27 PM
Definitely, but they’re a better team with him so I was happy to see it get done…plus one would assume he can’t be that bad next year
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:29 PM
Something is about to happen in Columbus! So scared.
What does this mean?
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:34 PM
Hockey. Rick Nash.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:35 PM
Hockey. Rick Nash.
Oh, I got nervous there for a second that something actually bad was happening. To the point where I went to the Columbus Dispatch website to see — then I saw a link that said Mr. Krueger from Seinfeld shot himself in the head in Cincinatti and lived.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:35 PM
Also true…lots of ins and outs.
New plan…take the $14M, and if Rodgers gets hurt, fake a minor injury and keep the stock high.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:37 PM
I’m not too worried about it.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:37 PM
Coach Meyer found his way to sorority row?
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:37 PM
So am I Duckworthing the fact that Big Ben restructured his deal?
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:39 PM
I’m not too worried about it.
I went to OSU and lived there for a year after I graduated, still have friends that live there. Thought it coulda been some sort of weather problem, not anything Jacket related. Not many people even care about the Jackets, though I suppose thats because they have never been good.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:39 PM
Hockey. Rick Nash.
Whatever happens. Rest assured that Howson will get taken to the woodshed.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:39 PM
By deal do you mean his settlement with one of his rape victims?
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:40 PM
I got two underachieving Russians, two overpaid fourth liners, a big old decrepit d-man, and a broke-ass young d-man. Interested?
/Ted Leonsis’d
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:40 PM
CBJ scheduled a presser?
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:42 PM
Don’t think so, and that’s good to hear.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:42 PM
He did yesterday. Vermette.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:42 PM
Any word on Collins returning? Thinking they need to draft a safety along with their OLB and Dline
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:43 PM
KDKA confirmed it. Cuts 8 mil in space.
They have now cut almost 30 million in cap room in two weeks.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:44 PM
I don’t think so, this puts Steelers slightly under the cap. Still can restructure Ward, Hampton and Harrison. Also, if/when A. Smith retires, that will help. Looks like Wallace is staying put.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:50 PM
But, but… the sky is falling, cap issues, ahhhhhh!!! It is nice to see players that are willing to restructure and help the team out though, not all players willingly do that.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:51 PM
He did yesterday. Vermette.
Badly. Weaned at the teat of one K. Lowe.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:53 PM
they will have to get to $9million and more below the cap to keep wallace, unless they don’t want to sign any free agents or their draft picks.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:56 PM
I guess, though the player doesn’t really sacrifice anything. They just get more of their money upfront.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:57 PM
I am not sure that’s true. $9 million is if they want to franchise him. They can work with bonuses and what not to keep his cap number lower if they are able to get a contract worked out.
February 23rd, 2012 at 4:58 PM
You ignored the sentence before that. The Steelers have loads of places to make up some cap space.
I’m more worried about the general age of the team and the fact that Ike Taylor sucks dick than the cap at this point.
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:02 PM
I hope someone steals Gay’s jersey and helmet so he can’t take one step onto the god damn field.
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:05 PM
Que? He played pretty good last year, just got abused by Thomas in the playoff game. As far the ‘age’ issue, Safety and NT are the only position that are concerning. Defense was still #1 last year.
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:06 PM
BB Gay is a UFA. He won’t be back unless its for the minimum and to play the nickel.
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:08 PM
well, he’s restricted so they will have to match, whether he’s franchised or not. a WR needy team might blow the steelers out of the water, especially a division rival with cap space, if they wanted to.
i didn’t ignore it, that’s just a lot they need to do, if those players are willing and they have to potentially make a lot of room.
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:10 PM
Fuck the Milwaukee Brewers. This is absolute horseshit.
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:11 PM
kaiser: my assumption was they would get a contract worked out before he went on the market since they have been clear space so early. They got ~3 weeks to work it out.
I still don’t see a viable team for this. Thats a lot of upfront money plus a 1st rounder.
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:12 PM
Oh good, already breathing easier then.